loff cheating wall bug abuser

[old.Whut]

A lot of stuff simply happens because people are quite rightly watching and concentrating on a targets health bar rather than the graphics going on in front of them.

People aim, people fire, sometimes the shot goes off, sometimes you get the message the target is not in view.

The animations that relate to actions, very, very often are linked to the real events rather than the lagged graphics delay. It can appear that doors are open, when they are shut, and vice versa. It can appear that people are running through the doors, when they are stopped the other side. To counteract that, don't run up to a door, approach it from the side, so any lag tracking doesn't put you into the enemy attackers. Bit hard if you are attacking a fort though.

If they can't grab you, they can't hit you . . .

If you are attacking a fort, and can see people on the wall obviously in range (for example the Rangers), you should not get messages saying target is not in view. Likewise for defenders, if you can see the attackers from the battlements, and they are obviously in range, then you shouldn't get those target can not be seen messages either..

 

[lofff]

lame whiners

Yesterday i was told about this post on irc after been talking with tilde and some others, read tha post and left to bed laughing.

Now i see how do u try to "label" me as a cheeta or sth

(/ironic) yes im a cheater and jumped in wall to have a better sight and snipe u with my "throwing BIG LW hammers" (/ironic) dont be lame ffs

will explain u how do that thing about ppl lagging, targeting, and hitting tru door when in melee range, and those things bout lag in our crappy servers... will explain u i spent all tha nite NEXT TO THA FOOKING DOOR REPAIRING buT NO, wont do, u are just lame and stoopid and a fooking loser, ask ur own realm mates how did they killed our pbaoer (who was just next to me, behind door, pbaoeing ur lame ass) more than 3 times, or ask mousah how did he got me down to 1% hp once on same way, will say u too how to get out of melee range (there is sth about steping backward ...) how do lag makes server thing u are sill on melee range... BUT U JUST SOOK, AND GL GETTING ME BANNED WITH THOSE SCREENIES I CANT SEE COS IM QUITE PISSED WITH UR FOOKING WHINING

ps: funny siege with no so many numbers, a pity those whine wankers

 

[old.Loko]

rofl Herbal
m0000000 m0000000

 

[old.Organ-Grinder]

it dont make any differenee what realm the cheats/bug abusers are from they should all be banned/suspended .. all you mids/hibs do when somebody gets named for cheating/bug abusing u all try justify it . and if its a fellow realm mate you try accept itand then try say the other realms do italso .... if for example i was inside the wall cheatig and abusing the bug . does this make it right for you to do the same ? NO it doesnt itmakes u just as lame and imo just as much right to get banned/suspended as anybody who cheats ,
sure there will always be cheats playing thisgame but the more people who get banned for cheating the better . regardless of there lvl / exscuses / standing /realm ..... if any of you guys can honestly say u happy playing daoc with lots of cheats/bug abusers running around exploiting them then u must be a sad loser also .. i just wish you'd stop sticking up for the cheats .. if there is evidence against the cheats then they should be punished ...

p.s to those cheats "you know who you are" i hope you get caught and get all your chars deleted and cd-key banned . cos daoc doesnt want any of u lame ass fukers in this game

 

[c0ngo]

Originally posted by Paris
Well finster and co didnt mind using this flaw in game mechanics at avakr the other day and farmed ALOT of rps thru it so while i respect the fact u dont agree with it dosent change the fact that comeing so soon after so many 'core' albs did it u cant expect many mids to care cause as u could imagine sounds very hypocritical =/

I agree with Ody.

I've been on enough keep defences with Finster to guarantee you this is bullshit.

If anyone with Finster from his Guild hid in the walls he'd have kicked them and reported it himself.

 

[old.Paris]

I meant casting on gatekeeper from room above damn doors not casting from inside walls (didnt hear no reportsa of that) so sorry if i caused offence but dont gimmie bs about u guys not casting on the gatekeeper and it is a bug and the game is not supposed to work that way.
Admitadly what i said was taken out of context but the fact remains at that avakr keep raid on u albs u were casting on gatekeeper spamming ae and killing us using inventive use of game mechanics......yes alot of ppl may do it but whats the point of trying to take a keep when all u do is sit peacefully up in ur lil room and ae spam ..

 

[Treniel]

actually alot of the time u can see people inside the walls without being in them...at dun crim we were outside and there was a luikreen and elf in the wall we could all see them but not target them.....as for the AMG i've never had that....

but loff when u killed me i was on the ramp outside??????? no where near the door! so was herbal

Zana thats a bug with alb keeps if u move into the gaps between the thingys u get stuck on alot of them...was your own fault for moving there in the 1st place.....

as for your pbaoe'r we killed him the same way he was nuking us...targeting the gatekeeper and doing AOE spells...or if he was unlucky he lagged threw the door sum tank targetted him and then could hit them threw the door.

 

[lofff]

to: treniel

1- no, tanks (as mousah) hit on same way as me

2- lag, thats tha reason u tho u were far from melee range but i was hiting u

3- wtf u think i was doing? once i told u got tha "dumbass of tha year" rank, now u show us i was wrong:

TRENIEL GOTS NEW RANK: "UNBRAINED WHINING PROTECTOR"

 

[Zargar]

We made an announcement, as quoted earlier in this thread, about exploiting bugs, partly in the light of this one.

It is of no consequence what realm or what person used it first/the-most/in-the-most-exploiting-way/insert-reason-here. We will take action against people who exploit and that definetly also goes for this one.

If you see people exploiting this, please give as much information as you can through RightNow. Unmodified screenshots and time/date as well as short recount of the event all makes investigation easier.

Do not exploit because you see other people do it. Report and move on and it will be taken care of.

Over and out,
-Zargar

 

[Eleasias]

Obviously any experienced keep raider knows that sometimes tanks whacking doors lag through them, and people on the other side can hit them, and vice versa.

 

[Matinex]

Originally posted by Zargar
We made an announcement, as quoted earlier in this thread, about exploiting bugs, partly in the light of this one.

It is of no consequence what realm or what person used it first/the-most/in-the-most-exploiting-way/insert-reason-here. We will take action against people who exploit and that definetly also goes for this one.

If you see people exploiting this, please give as much information as you can through RightNow. Unmodified screenshots and time/date as well as short recount of the event all makes investigation easier.

Do not exploit because you see other people do it. Report and move on and it will be taken care of.

Over and out,
-Zargar

OH MY GOD, is this what i hope it is? are the goa employees coming out from the caves they been hiding in for years?

Now lets hope things changes in this game before everyone stop playing it.

 

[Brennik]

Let me get this straight: attacking lag ghosts coming thru the doors/walls is now a reportable offense?

Splendid...

 

[old.Paranoid]

Originally posted by Herbal remedy
while trying to take benowyc lofff killed me and several freinds by abusuing the wall bug, hitting me inside gate house besides 1st door while he was in the wall i was miles away from the second door so no chance he could of hit me. The first door was down at the time so no physical way while inside the keep he could attack me.Yes i have sent this to goa through right now with several dozen nice screen shots of him cheating, i hope this gets you banned. Hibs if they cant beat us hell they just go ahead and cheat. NO there wherent many of us there so dont even try and bullshit me about lag.

I was on this raid aswell,

Whils standing at the first gate, attacking it.. you could press F8 and target the hibs standing inbetween the 2 gates!

No this was when the gate was down to half health...
IF THAT isnt bug abusing.. i dont know what is.. you were AOE Blasting us from inbetween the 2 gates... i have scries i can show you.. but none of you would believe it etc...

You WERE bug abusing that day..

PLEASE PLEASE STOP ABUSING THESE BUGS... everyone!!

Paranoid

 

[tilde]

Eleasias, i saw a couple of casters inside walls. No "famous" names, but its been a while since i saw ppl in amg so i hope its over.

 

[Eblessair]

a certain kobby hunter was in the wall at crauch yesterday
was supprised to see them there :|

 

[old.Arya]

:sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping:

 

[Nicky Nook]

The problem with everyone complaining about cheating as of late is a simple one ....Not the players that pay for this game and cant help but fall down into keeps or grey areas with lag but infact Goas for not getting us the new patches fucking quick enough so that people cant do this type of thing anymore.

The way i see it is that Every Relam do it becuase they can and if Goa are going to start banning people very soon they will find that they will have not many players left playing this game because many times players fall into walls etc etc because they can when they should not be able to ..So give us the fucking pacthes you slow mother fuckers.

I know that many players TRY to avoid doing the wall / keep bugs but in a lot of intances it is hard to avoid not getting into an area that you should not be in and i know many people once they get inside and area like this they leave straight away but its not alot you can do to stop this imo and if Goa dont get a fucking move on the will be banning alot of people very very soon that imo should not be banned.

 

[lofff]

k, now seriously: - Im here getting flamed for tha "staying behind door in combat mode pressing f8 to target tha laggy ghosts and hit em" and there is ppl trying to get me banned for that? hahaha ban me, ill leave this crap game and its crap gamers comunity

 

[c0ngo]

Originally posted by Nicky Nook

I know that many players TRY to avoid doing the wall / keep bugs but in a lot of intances it is hard to avoid not getting into an area that you should not be in and i know many people once they get inside and area like this they leave straight away but its not alot you can do to stop this imo and if Goa dont get a fucking move on the will be banning alot of people very very soon that imo should not be banned.

Was done 2 death in Mallus thread.

I've only ever seen screenies of Hibbies defending from INSIDE a wall. If other realms have/are doing it post a link to a screeny that shows it.

I've fallen through keep walls lots of times and walked back into the keep without any trouble. People that get into an area the shouldn't isn't the problem. Those that yet there and EXPLOIT the bug by attacking people are.

Anyone that falls into a wall and attacks someone should be banned they know what they're doing and there is no excuse for it. The crap about I was casting/firing when I fell is rubbish, I've only fallen through when walking never when standing still as you have to inorder to cast/fire.

In defence of lofff got to say that his sounds more like a Lag Ghost thing as if Herbal was well away from wall how could a melee class hit 'her' even if they were actually in the wall ?

 

[Riddler]

Originally posted by C0ngo
In defence of lofff got to say that his sounds more like a Lag Ghost thing as if Herbal was well away from wall how could a melee class hit 'her' even if they were actually in the wall ?

last time i checked lofff was a Champion?, which means 5 castable spells (1dd with quite nice range, 3debuffs, 1snare)




still gotta say rofl to this thread

 

[Ortunga]

/em passes round a plate of cheese

 

[c0ngo]

Originally posted by Riddler


last time i checked lofff was a Champion?, which means 5 castable spells (1dd with quite nice range, 3debuffs, 1snare)

No idea what he is or his class but he mentioned melee range in his post so assumed he was some melee tank sort of thing.

 

[old.BJ|Bored]

Originally posted by Lythande
Funny thing is the same happened to me at Aravakr a couple of days ago. *GASP* Albs abusing bugs too, noo it can't be!?!



/Lythande lvl 5+ Runemaster <Angeli Mortis>

I was at arvkar and fell into the walls several times due to lag...

not 1 alb was ever in there that i saw... and as there were only about 16 albs there we woulda noticed some1 missing from the keep walls ...

and far as i saw it no1 ever ae'd the gate keeper but tbh even if they did (i never even thought of this nice ide tho) how is it different from a troll sitting on a gate keeper preventing ppl from porting in ?

NOTE how it wasnt an alb that came up with this bug to ae the keeper .

 

[old.Lythande]

Originally posted by BJ|Bored


I was at arvkar and fell into the walls several times due to lag...

not 1 alb was ever in there that i saw... and as there were only about 16 albs there we woulda noticed some1 missing from the keep walls ...

and far as i saw it no1 ever ae'd the gate keeper but tbh even if they did (i never even thought of this nice ide tho) how is it different from a troll sitting on a gate keeper preventing ppl from porting in ?

NOTE how it wasnt an alb that came up with this bug to ae the keeper .

As the only realm in DAoC without PBAE-through-door-at-INSANE-damage what would you have us do? Stand there helpless and see our tanks with 1000+ HP go down in a couple of casts? We might aswell give up trying to get keeps back that are defended then.

 

[old.Odysseus]

Will u plz stop this 'albs did this, hibs did that etc.' attitude?
Its becomming friggin boring!

If u wanna blame someone for something, deliver a name and a screenie and report it.

 

[old.BJ|Bored]

Originally posted by Lythande


As the only realm in DAoC without PBAE-through-door-at-INSANE-damage what would you have us do? Stand there helpless and see our tanks with 1000+ HP go down in a couple of casts? We might aswell give up trying to get keeps back that are defended then.

what id have you do is not exploit any bugs or accuse others of doing it without prrof

 

[old.Lythande]

Is AEing the gatekeeper considered bug-abuse? I tried to find something about it on RightNow but couldn't find anything(which isn't surprising as I usually can't find my way out of a room ).
If yes Midgard be MIGHTY F*CKED imo, no point in even trying to take a defended keep.

And about me/us accusing ppl of bug-abuse, AFAIK this thread was started by an Alb whining about something that happened to me against albs at Aravakr, I don't know if they were in the wall or not, I simply stated that Albs are doing it too.

 

[old.BJ|Bored]

and how do you know albs are doing it ?

the only way u can is if youve seen it yourself so im sure you will have screenies, pls post and report and alb thats cheating ...


although i notice a lack of such screenies ...

 

[fritanga]

Cast PBAOE through doors in 1.45 isnt a bug, is just a "ability". Ask assassins classes if oneshoot kill and remain stealth is now a bug or a "ability" of their class(http://www.camelotherald.com/more/348.php)

And, why midgard dont have pbaoe? I think is because u have area paralyze. Area paralyze + pbaoers= too powerfull tatic.

Plz stop flamming, in this raid, albs killed me two times through door and mezzed me around 20.

 

[old.Ozaric]

Originally posted by fritanga
Plz stop flamming, in this raid, albs killed me two times through door and mezzed me around 20. [/B]

Albs got mezzers?