lets clear some things up concerning numbers.

[old.Whut]

Originally posted by Bedwin
ever thought that maybe a change of attitude would make people nicer to you??

yes there are dumbarses in Albion on excal, but there are also dumbarses in midgard Prydwen, you cant blame the REALM what ONE or TWO or even 20 persons do to you....

as far as the friar buisness go, I like the class I hardly ever die (last death was 2 days ago, suicided to get to excal because midies was raiding)

and as soon as 1.46 is comming I´m back at soloing yellows

YES I have a gimped friar,
oh and yes our armor does suck, 10% absorb is ridiculous, but then again after 1.46 I have enough spec points to raise my enhancment line a bit, we get some real nice selfbuffs in the spec line

Ever thought it was perhaps witnessing other people's attitude and behaviour in bulk, that was the deciding factor? How they were treating each other, and not just me? I don't pay a subscription to a game to watch that sort of crap going on.

Well you can tell people by the company they keep. You like it there, you stay there. I didn't, I left. Your choice, my choice.

As I said, there will come a time when it will probably be worth playing a Friar. You want to hang in there until then? Fine, your choice. That time isn't now, for me, or for a lot of other people.

I haven't changed my attitude, in that I like to play a game amongst people that enjoy playing a good game. I have found that environment on Mid/Prydwen. I did NOT find that environment on Alb/Excaliber. Of course you will find a few "dumbarses" about wherever you go. Some places seem to be blessed with more than their fair share though.

Anyway this isn't levelling my Shammie. Bye.

 

[c0ngo]

Originally posted by Whut

Not that it is any of your damned business, but I spent rather a long time in each realm on Prydwen checking numbers - nearly 2 weeks in fact.

Think it was you that posted

And some people wonder why I left . .

So piss off and post ur rubbish comments on the Pryd Forum then if you think Albs on Excali aren't friendly I wouldn't want 2 shatter your illusion.

Continue 2 lvl on the easiest Realm 2 lvl in in Europe and quite possible in DAoC anywhere in the world.

If you don't want comment made on what u post don't post here.

There are more than enough Smite Clerics in Albion for there to be room for some Enh/Rej ones and a full hp rez is fine by me.

 

[Addlcove]

2nd that

I love being ressed by herbal......

as for you whut I think I´ll ignore yoo from now on, you don´t seem to grasp the concept of noflame conversation, have I at any point called you an idiot? or anything to the liking? and still you dish me

"Well you can tell people by the company they keep. You like it there, you stay there. I didn't, I left. Your choice, my choice. "

another insult, how come you cant discuss anything without insulting people?

@ stix ok mate I´m cutting the sig

 

[c0ngo]

Yay 1/2 a page from Bedwin but it wasn't a one line post

 

[old.Whut]

Originally posted by C0ngo


Think it was you that posted



So piss off and post ur rubbish comments on the Pryd Forum then if you think Albs on Excali aren't friendly I wouldn't want 2 shatter your illusion.

Continue 2 lvl on the easiest Realm 2 lvl in in Europe and quite possible in DAoC anywhere in the world.

If you don't want comment made on what u post don't post here.

There are more than enough Smite Clerics in Albion for there to be room for some Enh/Rej ones and a full hp rez is fine by me.

It was you that took it out of context, and made an attempt to knock a Realm choice based on numbers that USED to exist. Prydwen is not like you think it is any more.

Don't want YOUR illusions shattered maybe?

Finding a few home truths discomforting are we C0ngo?

For the record, Alb is just about as easy to level on as Mid. I wouldn't PRETEND that it is like that on Hib.

Ignorant, rude, and blinkered outlooks JUST LIKE YOURS, are EXACTLY typical of the Alb/Excaliber attitude that got me looking elsewhere to play.

So carry on, you might even end up with a Realm ALL TO YOURSELF. Now wouldn't that be nice for you . . .

 

[old.Whut]

Originally posted by Bedwin
2nd that

I love being ressed by herbal......

as for you whut I think I´ll ignore yoo from now on, you don´t seem to grasp the concept of noflame conversation, have I at any point called you an idiot? or anything to the liking? and still you dish me

"Well you can tell people by the company they keep. You like it there, you stay there. I didn't, I left. Your choice, my choice. "

another insult, how come you cant discuss anything without insulting people?

@ stix ok mate I´m cutting the sig

Yeah yeah ignore the other bits too.

The Friar that doesn't die likes getting rezzed by Herbal. A bit of irony failure there methinks.

 

[c0ngo]

Originally posted by Whut


It was you that took it out of context, and made an attempt to knock a Realm choice based on numbers that USED to exist. Prydwen is not like you think it is any more.

Midgard don't have all 6 relics then which doesn't make it even easier 2 lvl there than normal? + 3 Alb Keeps + 2 Hibbie ones ? Midgard isn't the only realm 2 have ever taken a Relic on the Server ?

For the record, Alb is just about as easy to level on as Mid. I wouldn't PRETEND that it is like that on Hib.

Rubbish. Name a Euro Server where the 1st 50 wasn't in Midgard. Guess US was the same but I've never played there.

So carry on, you might even end up with a Realm ALL TO YOURSELF. Now wouldn't that be nice for you . . .

Considerably more people on Excali all the time cause despite the comments often posted here the server is relatively well balanced.

 

[old.Finster]

for christ's sake. i and most albion RvR longtimers don t want to own the server. we want a decent battlefield to get at your throats. if you remember the forum talk after midgard lost its last relics midgard was just about dying and losing ppl to delete.

try to think for 5cp and accept a gesture of good style. or at least grow up and do it after.

excalibur beta was brilliant and i never forget it...

 

[old.Whut]

As I said, a situation on numbers on Prydwen is something that USED to exist. Prydwen is very different now. Excaliber I think is headed for the same upheaval that Prydwen has gone through.

Take the same group of people that can level on Mid, and put them in Alb, and they will level at about the same rate. I might be wrong but I don't think that can happen in Hib yet.

If you think Excaliber is a balanced server, your out of your tree.

On the European servers a lot of experienced players went to Mid at retail which made a big initial difference. How things start is not always how they carry on, and Mid/Prydwen will have a more challenging time of it very soon.

By the time my character has levelled enough, RvR should be starting to be FUN.

 

[c0ngo]

Originally posted by Whut
Take the same group of people that can level on Mid, and put them in Alb, and they will level at about the same rate.

It's a bit closer now but Midgard still gets the 1st lvl 50's on the newer Euro servers.

If you think Excaliber is a balanced server, your out of your tree.

And you base this on what ? Playing on Pryd ?
Look at the status of the other Euro Servers that were there from Day 1 not that many with 2 Relics 2 each Realm.

On the European servers a lot of experienced players went to Mid at retail which made a big initial difference.

Very few people I lvld with in Alb were 1st timers. We all knew where to hunt and were all very active but 1.36 favors Midgard whether you accept it or not and it's still easier there now and they beat us to 50 by miles. Albs and Hibbies were always relatively similar in lvls but the Middies were a long way in front.

How things start is not always how they carry on, and Mid/Prydwen will have a more challenging time of it very soon.

If I see a relic change hands on the server maybe I'll lvl my alt again but until that happens the Euro game only has 1 English server.

 

[old.Whut]

Originally posted by Finster
for christ's sake. i and most albion RvR longtimers don t want to own the server. we want a decent battlefield to get at your throats. if you remember the forum talk after midgard lost its last relics midgard was just about dying and losing ppl to delete.

try to think for 5cp and accept a gesture of good style. or at least grow up and do it after.

excalibur beta was brilliant and i never forget it...

Finster, I believe you. Too many people do not think like that though (as you must surely know), and your good sentiments seem to be such a very small minority. I do not envy your future time in the company of those others. But I wish you and many of those others that played early well. There were some very good types among them for sure.

Ride out the rough times if you want to and probably things will come good for Albion eventually as a place to play. It seems to be going that way on Prydwyn, which is maybe encouraging.

Personally there was no fun in it any more, so what was the point in carrying on, when it had become such a bad place to play? I don't pay money every month for that kind of nonsense.

I do it for fun which to me is a good game in good company with good people to play against.

 

[old.Stix]

It's a bit closer now but Midgard still gets the 1st lvl 50's on the newer Euro servers.

Oh? You mean the other euro servers as well as excal and pryd?

 

[c0ngo]

Originally posted by Stix


Oh? You mean the other euro servers as well as excal and pryd?

There are other servers in Europe I think u'll find (remember GOA's reasons behind delayed patches )

I mean Avalon, Lyonesse, Stonehenge, Logres, Broceliande, Ys and Orcanie (5 were there when Excali/Pryd started I think well a week or so b4 but close enough) and a couple were added l8r. 1st 50's on Stonehenge were Middies ask Hedonism or even Finster cause they play there 2

There are other languages in Europe other than English.

 

[old.Nol]

...

so everyone agrees that hib is much harder to lvl on then?

 

[old.Whut]

Originally posted by C0ngo


And you base this on what ? Playing on Pryd ?

If I see a relic change hands on the server maybe I'll lvl my alt again but until that happens the Euro game only has 1 English server.

It is very simple to see what numbers are C0ngo. You look at the server total, you log in, and when that Realm is about half that total number when you do a /who, then with simple mathematics it equates to about 50%.

Statistical analysis says that when a sample is large enough (and a server population is a highly valid statistical sample), then you can closely balance out those that are /anon or playing alts. Variance is usually within +/-2%, but allowance is given for +/- 5% for a belt and braces margin of analytical safety.

Why are you (and others) so insistent on denying reality when it comes to numbers imbalance? You just make yourselves look ridiculous!

Get it into your heads they KNOW what the Excaliber imbalance is, they are not fools ffs!

It is not a question of IF you see a relic change hands, simply WHEN. I am not going to particularly rush my Shammie through levels when it achieves some nice abilities, after all I have a whole new realm to explore and enjoy, so I fully expect that by the time I can go to RvR, Relics will be distributed rather differently to the way they are now. Time to play is of course another factor that will interfere with levelling, but that is a different issue.

Both Hib and Alb on Prydwen have recently attracted quite a lot of experienced players that also have had a gutful of Excaliber. So the RvR future there looks to be rather promising, to say the least. Well I live in hope anyway.

 

[c0ngo]

Originally posted by Whut


It is very simple to see what numbers are C0ngo. You look at the server total, you log in, and when that Realm is about half that total number when you do a /who, then with simple mathematics it equates to about 50%.

Never happened. Last time I checked it it was just over 1/3.

Statistical analysis says that when a sample is large enough (and a server population is a highly valid statistical sample), then you can closely balance out those that are /anon or playing alts. Variance is usually within +/-2%, but allowance is given for +/- 5% for a belt and braces margin of analytical safety.

And ?

Why are you (and others) so insistent on denying reality when it comes to numbers imbalance? You just make yourselves look ridiculous!

Possibly because the server we play on has had relics change hands 6 times and stands at 2 each atm and all 3 realms are in control of their keeps and is not dominated by 1 realm that has 6 Relics and 12 of the 21 Keeps.

Get it into your heads they KNOW what the Excaliber imbalance is, they are not fools ffs!

See above

Both Hib and Alb on Prydwen have recently attracted quite a lot of experienced players that also have had a gutful of Excaliber. So the RvR future there looks to be rather promising, to say the least. Well I live in hope anyway.

They're welcome to Pryd as are you.

Plz stay there. Although if it changes and the Middies loose there dominence there I'm sure u'll jump ship to whatever English server that is about then where one realm is hammering the rest

<edit> my mistake some sneeky Albs have taken DC since I last looked but no doubt the Hibbies will have it back shortly.

 

[old.Nol]

btw

whut, when you come to hib, message me in game for a donation to build your char, my guild will help too.

hib needs chars

 

[c0ngo]

Lol unlikely he'll have 2 lvl properly they without the benefit of 6 relics.

 

[old.Nol]

...drop that nasty char COngo

you welcome too

 

[old.Whut]

Re: ...

Originally posted by Nol
so everyone agrees that hib is much harder to lvl on then?

Well the highest I took a Hib support character (Bard) to was lvl 12. I got one other - a warden - to lvl 9, and a Druid was somewhere between the two.

The Albion and Mid support classes were much faster to get to that sort of level and had very decent drops in comparison.

Amonst the 3 characters I think they got a total of 3 useful drops. One was a magic ring off a grass spirit, and a blue con club and a bracer I think it was off other things.

Tattered armour off skeletons and something else was a bit of a help though. That usefulness quickly ran out as the colour went to green very fast, and there seemed to be nothing to replace it with other than bought. Bought weapons didn't seem to be anything like as effective either, but that may be just subjective.

As a low level, with money short, useful drops other than money are quite critical to help level further I think.

So yes from what I have seen, and unless I badly missed somewhere to hunt at those levels (which I don't think I did), Hib does seem somewhat badly handicapped.

 

[c0ngo]

Thanks for the offer Nol but think I'll stay where I am. If you ever come to Alb I have loads of gold and items.

Spent 2 much time in Excali Alb to delete and can't see me buying a 2nd copy to play Hib on the same server.

Got few Hibbies on Pryd but won't be playing them much until my excali alts are a lot higher or Pryd gets a bit more even.

 

[old.Nol]

...

Whut - Yeah, I found alb quite a lot easier at low levels for my alt, I was able to buy a new staff and get some armour relatively easily. I experienced this with 2 chars, fire mage I lvl'd to 15 deleted and then played a mid skald, to 11 - deleted. Now I am playing an ice mage - only on 8 (Easier in my experience).

COngo - too bad man taken me ages to get my bard where he is, I reckon if I deleted I would just stop playing all that pain, frustration and anguish

 

[old.Whut]

Originally posted by C0ngo


Never happened. Last time I checked it it was just over 1/3.




They're welcome to Pryd as are you.

Plz stay there. Although if it changes and the Middies loose there dominence there I'm sure u'll jump ship to whatever English server that is about then where one realm is hammering the rest

Well not that I checked that often, but I never saw it as low as 1/3.

I have been made very welcome on Pryd thank you very much. Where I stay is my choice as it is my money, and i chose Mid there because there is no longer a numbers imbalance. Where the reics happen to be right now is an irrelevance, as in a couple of months time that situation is likely to have changed dramatically. That timing suits me right.

If you think I jump ship to dominant realms then your reading accuracy needs checking. Maybe that is how you manage to see 1/3rds when you look at numbers, and everyone else sees different?

C0ngo you seem to be a person that is very blinkered for your own conveniece.

 

[old.Whut]

Re: ...

Originally posted by Nol
Whut - Yeah, I found alb quite a lot easier at low levels for my alt, I was able to buy a new staff and get some armour relatively easily. I experienced this with 2 chars, fire mage I lvl'd to 15 deleted and then played a mid skald, to 11 - deleted. Now I am playing an ice mage - only on 8 (Easier in my experience).

COngo - too bad man taken me ages to get my bard where he is, I reckon if I deleted I would just stop playing all that pain, frustration and anguish

yeah I didn't find it any sweat really.

thanks for the offer re coming to Hib tho. If they get the support classes sorted I will give it another go for sure.

Real glad I didn't end up in Hib on Prydwen tho, if people like C0ngo have their alts from Alb/Excal there.

 

[old.Whut]

Originally posted by C0ngo
Lol unlikely he'll have 2 lvl properly they without the benefit of 6 relics.

Only you seem to think that is relevant.

Sad git.

 

[c0ngo]

Re: Re: ...

Originally posted by Whut


Real glad I didn't end up in Hib on Prydwen tho, if people like C0ngo have their alts from Alb/Excal there.

Lol like that was ever likely.

Cause people like me are up 4 a challenge lvling in what's probably the hardest realm to lvl on a Server where they have no Relics instead of jumping ship 2 join a realm where lvling is easiest at the best of times even without 6 relics.

I could give u details on the differance 2 power relics makes 2 smite damage but I can't b bothered but it's noticable and having all 6 will make it even more so to all forms of attack but there u go if ur 2 stupid to realise that that's no concern of mine.

 

[Novamir]

Originally posted by Finster
i and most albion RvR longtimers don t want to own the server.

and you never will

 

[old.Woodmansee]

Mid/excal
Alb/pryd
These will rule. Why? Cuz I play both of em jk

After getting back both relics back and pounding albs all day mid/excal is going along nice!
Alb/pryd - Ive seen an old pals guild from beta (pyro) and they have alot of numbers and lvls Im sure they are gonna pull things around very soon

 

[Khalen]

I would love to help the Hibs at Prydwen server. But at the moment I don't have much time to play my nice Firbolgian Druid
Last time I was looking for some enemies to kill but the way from Connla downsouth is like a graveyard. Where are all those nice enemies?? It's like a desert over there...
But pretty soon I'm graduated and summer holidays are getting closer by the day. Was funny though playing on Hib and getting asked a lot by teams

 

[old.Organ-Grinder]

yea ive noticed that also . a distinct lack of mobs i have a cple of alts on hib/pryd and i can find any mobs fast enuff or in big enuff supply to suit me properly .in alb the mobs are everywhere to lvl . but there again i suposse its a case of knowing your realm well .