Legalised prostitution? (UK)

[vintervargen]

legalizing prostitution would probably lower the number of rapings pretty much, no

 

[harebear]

legalizing prostitution would probably lower the number of rapings pretty much, no

good point methinks =o

 

[Indis]

legalizing prostitution would probably lower the number of rapings pretty much, no

Probably not... people don't go out and rape just because thay cant have sex... the reasons for rape are much more deep rooted and complex than that..

 

[Ezteq]

Hmm any1 who lives in a country where prostitution is leagle can you say what the sexual assult crime levels are like? and if you remember what they were like before? be kinda interesting to know

 

[Indis]

Would be interesting to know but I doubt there would be any significant difference tbh. I mean as far as the UK is concerned legalising prostitution wont make it any more available than it is now - and it won't make it any less taboo. I doubt you're going to find a knocking shop on every high street in the country Any type of legalisation would be there simply to protect ppl working in the sex industry and to help decriminalise it.

 

[Indis]

Bah nerf work..

What I also meant to say was that sexual assaults dont necessarily have to take place as a result of the absence of available sex. The reasons for such assaults range from psychotic mysogeny (sp) to drunken misunderstandings. The presence or absence of legalisation wont make any difference to this imo

 

[Cyfr]

I Can Get Laid Yay Xddddddddd

 

[Conchabar]

legalizing prostitution would probably lower the number of rapings pretty much, no

no it wouldnt change a thing ...

 

[Sissyfoo]

Probably not... people don't go out and rape just because thay cant have sex... the reasons for rape are much more deep rooted and complex than that..

Whatever the motive behind rape, a prostitute out on the streets is an easy victim for a rapist. With legalisation and the 'protection' offered by brothels, bordellos and, in theory, the law there probably would be a drop in the number of sexual assaults and rapes.

Ironically, on the other hand there may be an INCREASE due to the fact that abused prostitutes would be able to come forward and report their attackers without fear of being busted for their own illegal activities.

~shrug~

 

[Ezteq]

I Can Get Laid Yay Xddddddddd

rofl pleased for you bud

 

[Sigurd]

I Can Get Aids Yay Xddddddddd

Too right.

 

[Ala]

legalizing prostitution would probably lower the number of rapings pretty much, no

In answer to your question.... no it wouldn't. Rape is not about consensual sex, it's about power, sociopathy & psychopathy.

 

[Morchaoron]

Here in the Netherlands its legal and no one really cares, and I dont see why it shouldnt be made legal, at least then they will have some control over it and they will be able to tell them where (not) to go, which is good...

 

[Coim]

In answer to your question.... no it wouldn't. Rape is not about consensual sex, it's about power, sociopathy & psychopathy.

How do you know? Is every rapist suddenly the same?

No.

Each rapist has his/her(xD) own motive for raping someone.

 

[behatch]

They rape people,they are the same.

I can usually see the bigger picture,i can understand why people do many things but rape? lol are you joking? they should all insta die when they try it.

Like the lord will know what there doing so like throw down some lightning on them xDDDD

 

[Coim]

You managed to completely miss the point of my last post.

Congratulations.

 

[Conchabar]

How do you know? Is every rapist suddenly the same?

No.

Each rapist has his/her(xD) own motive for raping someone.

okay coim someone who rapes is pritty fucked up would u not agree? changing prostitution does nothing... yes there are rapes that happen when someone is drunk.. will the drunk mindless zombie change because he can get it for a price ? no he will still do what ever he will do as of the state of mind he is in... every man sure has thought about the act.. but the diffrence is a fucked up person will do it

rape as far as i would belive is about sexual superiority or stalking cause the male/female is infatuated with the person he wants to have intimacy with.. how does a legal prostitution change this? it changes nothing.. you might say well some people need it badly and because of legal prostitution they will now not rape? whose to say they would in the first place .. its a very cowardly low thing to do.. they could just as well get there fix by viewing the internet.. and a person who is that way inclined would just choose the ilegal way

 

[Coim]

okay coim someone who rapes is pritty fucked up would u not agree? changing prostitution does nothing... yes there are rapes that happen when someone is drunk.. will the drunk mindless zombie change because he can get it for a price ? no he will still do what ever he will do as of the state of mind he is in... every man sure has thought about the act.. but the diffrence is a fucked up person will do it

rape as far as i would belive is about sexual superiority or stalking cause the male/female is infatuated with the person he wants to have intimacy with.. how does a legal prostitution change this? it changes nothing.. you might say well some people need it badly and because of legal prostitution they will now not rape? whose to say they would in the first place .. its a very cowardly low thing to do.. they could just as well get there fix by viewing the internet.. and a person who is that way inclined would just choose the ilegal way

You don't know any of this. You're just making assumptions. How do you know that someone would carry on raping people when they could just pay? You don't.

It could help, and I don't see why it shouldn't be legal.

Besides, if it ends up fucking things up even more, the government could always make it illegal again. xD

 

[Ala]

How do you know?

Because I read.

Is every rapist suddenly the same?

There can be no doubt that a need to exert power over another being is a major player in rape. Sociopaths and psychopaths are rapists, so what then is your point? You're arguing about a well known fact here....why??

 

[Ala]

You don't know any of this. You're just making assumptions. How do you know that someone would carry on raping people when they could just pay? You don't.

Pay to rape someone? I'm quite sure you didn't mean to say that? Then I have to assume you are equating sex, once again, with rape and they are not the same thing.

 

[Sissyfoo]

How do you know? Is every rapist suddenly the same?

No.

Each rapist has his/her(xD) own motive for raping someone.

Ala is essentially right. Although there are lots of reasons behind rape the majority of them can be boiled down to a guy wanting to exert his power over a woman...and what better way to do that than beat the crap out of her, rape her and then leave her with the knowledge that he is more powerful than she is? Others could be driven to rape because of a psychotic hatred of women based on the way other women have treated him in the past.

There are also innocent misunderstandings ("Oh, I thought today was Opposites Day and 'no' meant 'yes'...my bad!"), a simple lack of morals (yay sociopaths) and er...a severe lack of any poon and the need to show who da man is (prison rapage)!

The reason why, in my humble opinion, legalisation would help is because a street hooker is a lot more vulnerable than yer average lass. She solicites you, you pick her up, drive off, rape her, dump her body in the woods, go back to your normal life. You could do the same with a random woman but it usually involves all the hassle of grabbing her off the streets and then doing a good job of hiding her body because, more often than not, she will be more missed than yer average street walker.

 

[Ala]

The 'Green River Killer' aka Gary Leon Ridgeway, is a prime example of someone exploiting prostitutes for the purpose of 'getting away with it' based on the fact that many of the victims relatives were unaware of their whereabouts at any given time and that they would not be 'missed' straight away.

'I wanted to kill as many women as I thought were prostitutes as I possibly could,'' he said in a statement. He said that he left some bodies in ''clusters,'' and that he enjoyed driving by the sites afterward, thinking about what he had done.

'I hate most prostitutes and I did not want to pay them for sex,'' he said. ''I also picked prostitutes as victims because they were easy to pick up without being noticed. I knew they would not be reported missing right away and might never be reported missing. I picked prostitutes because I thought I could kill as many of them as I wanted without getting caught.''

Gary Ridgeway raped, murdered and then performed necrophilia on approximately 48 prostitutes in a two decade period believed to have begun in the early 80's.

I don't see a problem with legalising prostitution. It is something that has been around for generations and it isn't going to go away. It should be made safer for the workers.

 

[vintervargen]

i remember reading a survey who young rapists in sweden had participated in. most of them were according to the specialist frightening enough 'normal' guys, who didnt have any real motive for the act.

i cant avoid thinking of these sex acts by animals you see on animal channel etc.. after all we are animals too (could we be anything better with all the sh*t in this world?).

if the drift to have sex, aka hormones, instinct, whatever, could be so strong that normal guys get completely nuts.. :|

 

[Sigurd]

Sociopaths and psychopaths are rapists, so what then is your point? You're arguing about a well known fact here....why??

So all sociopaths and psychopaths are rapists? :touch:

 

[Ezteq]

So all sociopaths and psychopaths are rapists? :touch:

quite a few of em are bud yep, not all rapists are serial killers but a lot of them (bundy, gacey, dahmer, gein, fish, the russian cannibal, the boston stranglers) were all turned on by death so rape occured sometimes on living victims some times on the corpses, however you can be a rapist with out being a murderer but one thing leads to another and it often happens that some one who started out on sex crimes will progress to murder and the sort of person who would do that is generally a psychopath, this is really gross but the russian cannibal (cant spell his name lol) used to get the urge to commit rape so strongly he would go and hunt a victim but he had a problem with live women so he'd have to kill them to perform the rape as that was the only was he'd get turned on, he also had to do other stuff (think of the name and use your imagianation) no normal human would do these things, like ala and others have said rape isnt just about sex so these guys having the option to go and pay for a nice clean shag probably wont stop them wanting to do horrible things but it will help by taking their prey out of the way and lets face it a frail doped up hooker is an easy target for anyone, one housed in a safe secure brothel is harder to get at.

 

[old.Whoodoo]

quite a few of em are bud yep, not all rapists are serial killers but a lot of them (bundy, gacey, dahmer, gein, fish, the russian cannibal, the boston stranglers) were all turned on by death so rape occured sometimes on living victims some times on the corpses, however you can be a rapist with out being a murderer but one thing leads to another and it often happens that some one who started out on sex crimes will progress to murder and the sort of person who would do that is generally a psychopath, this is really gross but the russian cannibal (cant spell his name lol) used to get the urge to commit rape so strongly he would go and hunt a victim but he had a problem with live women so he'd have to kill them to perform the rape as that was the only was he'd get turned on, he also had to do other stuff (think of the name and use your imagianation) no normal human would do these things, like ala and others have said rape isnt just about sex so these guys having the option to go and pay for a nice clean shag probably wont stop them wanting to do horrible things but it will help by taking their prey out of the way and lets face it a frail doped up hooker is an easy target for anyone, one housed in a safe secure brothel is harder to get at.

Like most reading this, I went blind for 2 minutes.

Paragraphs be your freind. Good point tho.

 

[yaruar]

Because I read.


There can be no doubt that a need to exert power over another being is a major player in rape. Sociopaths and psychopaths are rapists, so what then is your point? You're arguing about a well known fact here....why??

There are other theories postulated about rape though which in some way contradict the basic premis that rape is about men exerting power over women. Certain biological views based around the physical appearance of women who are raped (not clothing etc, but body type/shape, age) can show that women who appear fertile are prime targets for rape.

 

[Dekker]

So all sociopaths and psychopaths are rapists? :touch:

I fail to see the relevance of this question. We're only talking about the ones that are.

 

[Conchabar]

There are other theories postulated about rape though which in some way contradict the basic premis that rape is about men exerting power over women. Certain biological views based around the physical appearance of women who are raped (not clothing etc, but body type/shape, age) can show that women who appear fertile are prime targets for rape.

not all rape is commited by men i feel insulted that u say only men

 

[Morchaoron]

if the drift to have sex, aka hormones, instinct, whatever, could be so strong that normal guys get completely nuts.. :|

they arent normal then