LA getting nerf finaly!

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Frair

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It's funny that all talked about nerfing L.A., even if nothing like that was in that letter. Mythic said that they will overlook L.A. now since Midgard got END REGEN buff which might make some L.A. style more powerfull that was meant to be. I believe that main change will be in end cost or to-hit bonus. Even if i don't like zerkers, I still think that Midgard should be feared in melee.

And about LW stun and nerf - LW stun is from behind. If you are mezzed, then no matter if you are slamed or hitted with LW. It's your fault you allowed them to mezz you :)

I don't have numbers about how much dmg does every 2h weapons, but so far i see only whine about beign owned, instead some real argument.
 
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SilverHood

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slam has no to hit bonus....

Annil has very high to hit bonus

world of difference between slam and annil
 
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Grad

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Originally posted by Kedaran_Mid
Now bare in mind that shadowblades are the -only- class in the game that has weapon that is based on their 3:d stats, str (dex, quick, str) and don't have a selfbuff for it.
-K.
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Huh, what you mean by saying your weapon is based on str, dex and qui? Aren't all Midgard melee weapons purely str based apart from spear?
 
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kalgarn

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Originally posted by Grad
Huh, what you mean by saying your weapon is based on str, dex and qui? Aren't all Midgard melee weapons purely str based apart from spear?
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kedaran means that although axe/sword are strenght based strenght only a tertiairy stat is from sb's.(other classes have it primairy or secundaire)
 
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Azal

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Originally posted by old.Cher
the fact that many sb's take L.a higher then there crit strike skill shows that l.a is a VERY powerfull skill.
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Not at all, it shows how much the CS line sucks shit and needs to be made better.
 
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Makwaerk

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cher did you take the time to see what it says about Left axe?
 
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Frair

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Originally posted by SilverHood
slam has no to hit bonus....

Annil has very high to hit bonus

world of difference between slam and annil
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Slam is anytime, Annihil is Backstyle and lvl 50. lvl 50 block shield style has to hit bonus too. And there are others styles in other realms that has stun too, usualy at skill 44.

There is nothing bad with beign skill lvl 50 style very powerfull, there is bad when it isn't. Otherwise other styles should be nerfed too, say Dragonfang?

Overall, anytime styles should have no powerfull effect like long stun or higher to hit bonuses/dmg. Positional styles should be powerfull, reaction styles too. And lvl 50 most. LW don't need nerf, others lvl 50 weapon styles needs to tweak to be on pair with it.
 
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Fightersuntzu

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Ugh......

Not this melee realm crap again. You think the VN trolls used it up when they whined for mid end regen :rolleyes:

Its not melee realm as in, our melee classes will always be better than your melee classes, its a melee orientation.....talk to NPCs in midgard and im quite sure more of them talk about swords and hammers than gods or weird freaky magic :p

Same goes with hibernia and the magic realm thing.....their classes are more oriented toward magic skills than anything else, their NPCs - well, some of them - speak of magical-type stuff :p

So, lose it :p
 
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0pin

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You guys have to see above your own realm... I dont care if a sb's strenght is 3rd they still do insane amounts of damage due to their style bonus...I had some unbuffed SB's outdamage me while I was fully buffed...And im a blade NS useing the biggest sword available in hib. And no it wasnt about skill, this was a straight up melee fight with me spamming garrote + backup style and the the sb's spamming doublefrost or whatever style you filthy mids use ;)
After hitting the higher RR's I do seem to win most of my fights tho...But thats becuase of the SB's lack of ra's which I allso hope gets looked at..
And the shit about LA only being usefull if spec'd high...If CD was anyway near as usefull when spec'd high i would skip CS anyday.

Guys, What is about to happen now is that we have a realm full of manachanters anohter realm full of zerkers and a third realm full of infiltrators...I think mythic finally realised that they need to bring charactors up on pair with their equilivants, and im pretty sure that after the hib love patch mid will be next :)

Im a pure hib, been there from the start and will most likely end my daoc days in hib allso...But still i got no problem admitting that our chanters is a tad overpowered ;) surely it cant be fun for anyone to have their entire group wiped by some brat who pressed the pbaoe button a few times :) And i can see why mids feel frustrated haveing one of their strong classes nerfed before the hibs/albs. But one thing is for sure, Balance is needed now or else there wont be any daoc very soon.
 
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vladamyr

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GG Mythic

Enchance the realms which dont need enchancing nerf the realms that do !

/salute

PS
What a fecking joke
 
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pudzy

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What are sb's gona do now? :(

starts -

2h sbs rule with 50 cs and 44 - 50 weapon, harder pa's etc and ability to stay stealthed after a 1 shot.

pa gets nerfed.

respec to LA.

LA gets nerfed.

Respec to ... stealth? envenom? OR our OTHER damage type? oh wait silly me, we dont have one.

btw, I know a few 50 dw 50 thrust infils, rhodry and molomolmolmololol :p for example.
 
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0pin

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Originally posted by pudzy
What are sb's gona do now? :(

starts -

2h sbs rule with 50 cs and 44 - 50 weapon, harder pa's etc and ability to stay stealthed after a 1 shot.

pa gets nerfed.

respec to LA.

LA gets nerfed.

Respec to ... stealth? envenom? OR our OTHER damage type? oh wait silly me, we dont have one.

btw, I know a few 50 dw 50 thrust infils, rhodry and molomolmolmololol :p for example.
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Dude...
starts -
NS rules
PA gets nerfed.
Respec to....oh wait we dont even have another usefull line.

Matt talked about opening up ohter races/classes in hib and i think one would be celt as a NS. I truly believe they are about to even out most classes...and as i said before something should go truly wrong if mid love isnt in the patch after.
 
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Fafnir

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Originally posted by 0pin
Matt talked about opening up ohter races/classes in hib and i think one would be celt as a NS. I truly believe they are about to even out most classes...and as i said before something should go truly wrong if mid love isnt in the patch after.
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So it will be all mid races can be all classes. Gifv Kobold Thanes, Troll SB's :)
 
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SilverHood

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hehe, kobold thanes... givf race respec.

Still think people are over reacting to zerker damage... not like there's fg's of zerkers running about emain 24/7.
 
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midmaster

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Haha LA overpowered? Try meeting a slimy inf with DF. HAHA....nerf nerf nerf the 1-chain DF. Silly style.

And i am also sick of the phrase 'mid love', 'alb love' etc. Since we are paying for it, it makes us John's, and we wait for it as well, that makes us perverts. Nerf Mythic poor planning and lack of ability to foresee anything.
 
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klavrynd

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AMAGAD NURF LA

(oh thats a caster fyi)
 
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SilverHood

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134 dmg on a caster! omg lol lol rofl lmao thats just tooo uber. plz mythic nerf zerks, they hit too hard, plz plz plz plz plz plz plz plz

*sigh*
 
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degen

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imo DF is shit, meet an infi 1 on 1 u get str debuffed = 100 dmg a swing unbuffed :/
ppl whinin about LA need fixin... find it funny when an infi hits me for 180 main hand and 100 - 120 offhand and then i hit em back for 130 fully buffed :(
 
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0pin

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Midmaster.
Okay what you want we call the fixes mythic makes ?
I read somewhere that mythic had like 4 mill USD to make the game whereas ohter major games had atleast 20 mill USD, so i would say they are makeing a pretty damn fine job compared to their resources!
All online games needs tweaking/fixing, I know a guy who plays EQ and he said that after last patch 1 class had gone completely bunkers and it took them ages to fix it...and thats a firm alot bigger that mythic.

Klavrynd.
So Buffed you hit casters unstyled for 16 damage ? or maybe that alb caster had a AF buff plus that insane RA alb gets to melee damage, just as hib has one for spell damage which can get us up to allmost 90% resist or something.
Where's the pictures of you hitting for 500+ and 99% crit ? ;)

Degen.
Rambo is buffed and ALB has that AF buff plus he's very high RR, he's the only infil i allmost allways lose to, only won 1 fight once when he where lower RR...But then again, im blades, im not build for fighting infils ;)
 
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klavrynd

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i can come up with alot more ~150 dmg pics when fully buffed then 500+ pics , easily
 
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sjaakievos

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klav , 50+15 blunt and my damage cap was 411 with my mainhand weapon , spiked mace speed 4.2 99% qua , in other words i couldnt hit harder with my mainhand then about 600 including the biggest crit ever , i think my best hit ever on a lvl 50 was 400+150 crit , and 150 (152 offhand cap) + .. hmm maybe 30 crit ?

combined damage of 700 damage on a Infiltrator with 0 crush resist

wow .. when you hitted me for 400+ on amgO and i only hitted you for 250+ (counting only the big hits here ) , considering i have 29 % slash resist since lvl 50 and you werent in zerk mode and no str relics and shit AND hitting faster

(yeyeyeye bm's gimp bla) so whats the big deal?

you play a very good melee class , with a speed 4.2 weapon and in zerk mode zerkers damage is a dream , i just hate to see someone whine while other players who hate to xp , dream about started as a mid zerker , instead of a merc/bm

even if zerks get nerfed now .. well they were the best damagedealer of all realms , and it would be a real shame also if they would nerf em ...
 
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Makwaerk

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The blademaster is a uber gimp imo .. and is in need of loving... but give the BM love insted of nerfing the Zerker
 
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Darac

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Originally posted by old.Cher
the fact that many sb's take L.a higher then there crit strike skill shows that l.a is a VERY powerfull skill.
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Or, crit strike is a broken one?

Or, they get 5 spec lines so why not try to gain advantages from each?

Or, they have to so they can get viable damage from wielding two weaps? Which is required. 2h just aint that great vs other assassins and two poisons are often required.

Or, they want a decent stun style to help counter the Infs Godly 9 sec stun style (even though it requires a 2 style combo to get off)?

People crying about LA really does my head in tbh. I am often hit for more by both NS's and Infs when both their weapons swing.

I know people say but LA always hits!! This is b******s, yes it swings each time but more than often misses and when it hits its like a decent damage add is all.
 
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logan6

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LA is too strong, period. It cant be right that doublefrost hits easily as hard as perforate artery - and it sadly does...

I perforated a yellow con troll zerker outside vindsaul and did about 380 damage to him. Before my creeping death hit him he doublefrosted me for 440 damage. Now take into account: He wears midgard studded, and thats weak to slash (me being a bladeshade). I wear hibernian leather, wich is resistant to slash.

He did NOT Hamster, and he did the same amount of damage just after cd stun wore off. i barely survived the fight to run away.

Sorry but that cant be right imo. Perforate Artery is supposed to be the single most damaging style in the game, because its quite hard to pull off. Doublefrost is a frickin anytime style that hits as hard... why the hell..?! Theres absoultely no reason, look at celtic dual and dual wield and notice the difference :)

imo LA nerf is needed.
 
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degen

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u killed a yellow zerk and u say LA needs nerfing... and ur a bladeshade which is gimped think b4 u type :p
 
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logan6

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i said i survived and ran away, i didnt kill him. so read, think and then answer like this... not necessary to piss off pll like this.

EDIT: youre a SB and i bet you use LA. As every SB does aside very few of the original SB´s. I wonder why...
 
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klavrynd

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LA is too strong, period. It cant be right that doublefrost hits easily as hard as perforate artery - and it sadly does...

I perforated a yellow con troll zerker outside vindsaul and did about 380 damage to him. Before my creeping death hit him he doublefrosted me for 440 damage
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if i wasnt the biggest gimp on the server i'd say that a 380 pa is pretty poor

and as for "name the style" , who says he df'ed you? df hitting for 440 is rather hard especially post-resists


as for nerfage, i ran into spivvy (sum ns) at amg who missed his pa , i teddied and killed him but i was only left with 400-500 hp tops, which considering he was unbuffed is not alot
 
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