LA getting nerf finaly!

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Xzvir

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http://www.camelotherald.com/more/837.php





- Addressing Midgard's Left Axe style/endurance regeneration combination, which leads to Berserkers and Shadowzerks doing more damage than they would normally be able to.

- Fixing some bugs with some Celtic Dual and Dual Wield combat styles to make them do commensurate damage as other tanks.

- Making Triple Wield more effective and usable more often.

- Making Dirty Tricks more effective and usable more often.

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~Mobius~

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Nerf the melee realms melee skills, GG! :great:
 
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Fafnir

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Wonder when they are gonna nerf LW, 573 from a blue con is just to much when i got capped resist. And thoose stupid morons that qui debuff zerks you have yourself to blame when they hit like truck :p

Soon hib is both the melee and magic realm.

And its so fun to see, they boost albs, and nerf mids. :(
 
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Blue Ix

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Bet this thread will be filled with interesting thoughts. ;<~
 
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opoc

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Originally posted by mobiusmid
Nerf the melee realms melee skills, GG! :great:
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Yeah but the melee realm has some of the best casters and stuff, so nerf them and give hib better casters and alb....give alb.....something.
 
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TaF

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Originally posted by Fafnir
And thoose stupid morons that qui debuff zerks you have yourself to blame when they hit like truck :p
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Oh and NOW we are forgetting that all hibs got 3 second PBT stacked and erm well troll zerker with minimum quickness /or debuffed attacking once a minute sounds like ? Not hitting at all ?

Now think again what u wrote there.
 
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Fafnir

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Well 2 weapons = 2 hits, 1 hits pierce bt, 1 hit hits target. :)
 
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Laroma

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Aye, surely hibs need the boots, and mids deserve the nerf. We had it coming for being like, completely invincible in RvR and stuff, especially when we had a zerker and a shammy in a group.

We have too many win buttons as well.. :uhoh:
 
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stafford

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Originally posted by mobiusmid
Nerf the melee realms melee skills, GG! :great:
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ah yes the melee realm with the most evil pbae and bonedancers the insta no skill class

nerf em good and let odin sort em out
 
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Damon_D

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Ofcourse it need's to be nerf'd ffs..as is it might actualy hurt someone...we cant have that now can we.. and they gonna beaf hib's up...yep they sure need it , I would say 2x pbaoe dmg... more supa stun styles that hit you for a gazillion dmg, with cap'd resist would also only be fair..Hmm maybe an armored personel car for all the luri-bombers would be ok too.. Give ALL the char's 3 sec pbt , that auto stack for a nice 0,375 sec pbt with a fg...Ohh and plz lower all our tanks hp's to that of a skald..we dont want to take to much off your time dying now do we....
 
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SilverHood

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didn't actually say nerf, just "looked at"

Tbh though, it does do nice damage. It's about the only classic midgard tank that can kill stuff before you fall asleep.
As Damon said, we can't have a midgard tank capable of killing hibs now can we? I mean, with 50% resists, 3 sec pbt, lots of classes with stun and tiny casters that are hard to see and target, along with a perma interupt pet, hibs really are at a disadvantage concerning mids. Oh yeah, we get insta CC... hibs get group purge to get around this.

Only people who should be whining are albs, and they get their love soon enough.
 
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Ardrias_Mid

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Originally posted by opoc
Yeah but the melee realm has some of the best casters and stuff, so nerf them and give hib better casters and alb....give alb.....something.
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Muahahahahahaha! hi. What game do you play?
 
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-foadon-

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give alb some more bugs to abuse?
just a thought
 
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Makwaerk

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I just hope they don't nerf our special RA, as a zerker that would just break my heart !
 
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old.Cher

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the fact that many sb's take L.a higher then there crit strike skill shows that l.a is a VERY powerfull skill.
 
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Makwaerk

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will bet you can find some infils with 50 trust out there
 
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kalgarn

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Originally posted by Makwaerk
I just hope they don't nerf our special RA, as a zerker that would just break my heart !
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hehe,true.i actually have it by mistake.tried it once with a slow 2hander did about 250 dmg :D
givf ra respecstones!!!11
 
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old.Cher

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bet u won't find any infs with maxxed duel wield, and thats the similer skill, as opposed to thrust.

same as u won't find any ns's with maxxed celtic duel, since the styles are currently low damage and don't get u a second strike everytime unlike l.a
 
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Fafnir

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Originally posted by old.Cher
bet u won't find any infs with maxxed duel wield, and thats the similer skill, as opposed to thrust.

same as u won't find any ns's with maxxed celtic duel, since the styles are currently low damage and don't get u a second strike everytime unlike l.a
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Perhaps we mids should get to train 2h too, so we can get some nice styles for it. Are not that many usefull 2h styles for us. And why many infils maxed in duel wield guess they want high thrust thoose who goes thrust for DF.


I remember the whine about mids getting 2h weapons for free shortly after release. So i guess you hibs want to loose LW to get 2h for free :)
 
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Caeli

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Originally posted by old.Cher
the fact that many sb's take L.a higher then there crit strike skill shows that l.a is a VERY powerfull skill.
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You must remember that LA damage unspecced sucks major balls while CD/DW unspecced/low specced still is decent enough. You need to bring LA high unless you wanna hit like a sissy. And LA's stun style is a lvl39 style, would you trade that and instead get 39+ crit? Didn't think so.
 
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old.Cher

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i like the fact that the realms are different but u have to appreciate L.a is a Very strong skill, its not me saying it needs nerfing, just hoping that the added damage to the celtic duel styles make it worth speccing.

as it is, currently celtic duel is nigh on pointless, and is the skill that normally has leftover spec points in
 
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Fafnir

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Aye its strong, but some of your LW styles are also strong, take the back position with stun. Dont know how many times i been killed by it, hib comes from behind while me mezzed. Whack me stunned my health drops 1/3, whack drops another 1/3, whack drops another 1/3 died before being able to use IP. 573 from a blue con. It normaly does about 400+ per hit from a yellow con. From a unbuffed attacker. Its same with polearm got some really nice high damage dealing style.

I used our hammer back pos. style with just hinder effect and did't come close to LW damage.

But then again many styles need's to be looked over, some have almost no use at all.
 
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Kedaran_Mid

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Originally posted by old.Cher
bet u won't find any infs with maxxed duel wield, and thats the similer skill, as opposed to thrust.

same as u won't find any ns's with maxxed celtic duel, since the styles are currently low damage and don't get u a second strike everytime unlike l.a
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I know atleast one (1) infiltrator that has (or maybe he respecced?) 50 dual wield, Marchoron (sorry don't remeber how you spell your name). Having 50 dual wield and 50 thrust makes a very powerful combo and as far as I know,does not cost as much endurence per swing as the left axe styles does.

As for the not hitting with offhand everytime. Yes someone using two (2) weapons in Midgård will always attack with both weapons, but we get no bonus what so ever to the offhand attack and we do from 20 to 50 damage with it. Atleast if you use a 2.4 speed hand axe. The high dual wield specced infils I've met have been doing 100+ damage with offhand on me from time to time, some buffed others not. I've met some nightshades with pretty high CD spec and they do some nice damage to, from around 85 to somewhere above 100, again some buffed some unbuffed.

Someone made the comment, (sorry if i miss-quote you here)
"The fact that SB spec LA over CS proves how good it is"

Well, we have little choise, the regular styles don't do much for our melee damage. Now bare in mind that shadowblades are the -only- class in the game that has weapon that is based on their 3:d stats, str (dex, quick, str) and don't have a selfbuff for it. And it's quite hard to kill a hybrid or healer in only one (1) shot. It's even hard kill a caster in one shot these days as most of them have maxed melee resists together with maxed con and hp's and absorb reactionary on the armor.

I hope they don't "nerf" left axe, I hope they "fix" the endurance regain left axe combo. But I find their argument silly, as it can be used for all melee classes.

Thats my thoughts on the left axe "nerf/fix", sorry for the long post and bad english.


[Edit] Spelling and such [/Edit]

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old.Cher

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CD=When striking a monster and wielding a weapon in each hand, you have a 50% chance to swing either weapon. It's possible that your secondary weapon can swing multiple times in a row, so it's a good idea to have a decent off hand weapon.

Celtic Duel specialization determines how often you are able to swing with both weapons simultaneously [25% + (Skill / 2)%]. After double hitting, the delay between your next swing is either your right or left weapon's delay (50% chance of either).

thats taken from char builder, its a chance to swing offhand weapon, and it will hit for similer to your main, but the fact is fully speccing cd will only give u a 50% chance to swing, and its a hell of alot of spec points for the chance it gives,

the styles from cd are worse damage then the normal weapon styles, so it means unless u are a hybrid who decides variance is good, u will always be using a main weapon spec over the cd styles.

so what i'm hoping for is NOT a l.a nerf but CD that is worth speccing.
 
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Artemls

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Originally posted by old.Cher
bet u won't find any infs with maxxed duel wield, and thats the similer skill, as opposed to thrust.

same as u won't find any ns's with maxxed celtic duel, since the styles are currently low damage and don't get u a second strike everytime unlike l.a
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There are many Infils with 50 DW 50 Thrust.
 
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