Just how popular is Nintendo Wii vs ps3/360?

[BloodOmen]

To be fair this was in america.. BUT just goes to show keeping it cheap and simple works alot more effectively than being greedy ***** and adding features no one gives a toss about.

"Nintendo sold more high-end video game consoles in the U.S. in the month of March than Sony and Microsoft combined, according to data released Friday by market researcher NPD Group."

"Nintendo sold 721,000 Wii consoles in March, according to NPD. Microsoft sold 262,000 Xbox 360 units while Sony sold 257,000 PlayStation 3 systems."

"Nintendo also dominated the portable system market. It sold 698,000 Nintendo DS units. Sony's PlayStation Portable counted sales of 297,000.

Sony also sold 216,000 PlayStation 2 systems in March, according to NPD."


I can't imagine the figures in the Europe would be that much different either tbh.


/bow to nintendo! true console vets.

 

[Lethul]

ok.

 

[Helme]

So when are all the decent games coming to accompany all those consoles?

 

[Lethul]

So when are all the decent games coming to accompany all those consoles?

25th april!

I reckon may will be a boom in xbox/ps3 sales
Then when msg comes ps3 will have a miniboom.

 

[BloodOmen]

So when are all the decent games coming to accompany all those consoles?

Unknown! not really checked the game line ups for awhile.

 

[Iceforge]

and this has been the trend since the consoles was released..... Nintendo came with what the market needed; Not just better graphics in faster consoles with the same types of games and controller, but made a controller that allowed for games being very different.

Never been into consoles, always prefered the PC, but I remember seeing a study about the trend in the console market and unbeliveable as it was, it showed that most people who buy consoles belonged to one of the following:

1) Only buy Wii
2) Buying a Ps3 + a wii
3) Buying an Xbox + a wii

= Ps3 and Xbox got pwned

 

[soze]

Wii sells allot on novelty and price even though its not that cheap the 360 is better value and has better games. If you like the novelty of the Wii it is great if like me that wears off quickly the Wii is a waste. In terms of just games machine 360 is supieror atm, and the Wii after a few hours playing does not make sence to me anymore.

 

[Bugz]

Wi wins on sales simply because it is well advertised as a family console. I've noticed most of ps3's advertising re; games and the such appeal to the older teenagers and younger adults only.

 

[Dahakon]

Wii is really just a gimmick, and gimmicks sell well, and tbh most games on it would be *better* with a gamecube controller.

 

[Helme]

Ye I agree with Dahakon, hell only reason I had an Nintendo 8bit when I was younger was because my father thought the pistol for Duck Hunt looked cool.

 

[Marc]

As soon as Nintendo can sort out the licensing problems and then make Goldeneye64 available for download, the WII will be the ultimate console for gaming with your mates. With that and mariokart, oh my, its like im 16 all over again!!

 

[GReaper]

The Wii just has everything going for it, unlike the Xbox 360 and PS3.

It's outside of Sony vs Xbox fanboys, so it's quite acceptable to have an Xbox and a Wii, or a PS3 and a Wii. It's cheap enough for a much wider audience to buy one, instead of being restricted to hardcore gamers who tend to buy the console a year before everyone else. The games are aimed at a wider audience and aren't that expensive.

I hadn't bothered with a console since the SNES days, but the Wii was just too tempting to miss out on.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Nintendo has always been about gimmicks.

They just CAN'T come out with a gamesystem that is normal, but they HAVE TO put some motion detector or some other sh*t in it.

Which means, game developers use alot of time to put that gimmick working, and ofcourse they HAVE to do so to sell games.

Which brings us to the morons buyig gimmicks...

People buy them, 'cause they "look fun", and they make more gimmicks.

 

[pikeh]

Nintendo has always been about gimmicks.

They just CAN'T come out with a gamesystem that is normal, but they HAVE TO put some motion detector or some other sh*t in it.

Which means, game developers use alot of time to put that gimmick working, and ofcourse they HAVE to do so to sell games.

Which brings us to the morons buyig gimmicks...

People buy them, 'cause they "look fun", and they make more gimmicks.

im not exactly the biggest fan of a lot of your 'opinion' posts, but thats pretty moronic.
people buy them because they look fun? god help us all.

maybe its new technology like motion sensoring that will take the video game experience into the next generation? maybe people do actually have FUN playing them? i know i have loads of fun playing the Wii, my DS, guitar hero, whatever. or are you just sitting there with your C64, blessing the invention of the cassette?

 

[tris-]

whats this new fucking wii foot board crap about?

if i wanna exercise i dont know why i would pay 69.99 for a piece of plastic to plug into something else.

at some places you could join a gym for 3 months for that much, and do a lot more.

 

[soze]

The Wii just has everything going for it, unlike the Xbox 360 and PS3.

It's outside of Sony vs Xbox fanboys, so it's quite acceptable to have an Xbox and a Wii, or a PS3 and a Wii. It's cheap enough for a much wider audience to buy one, instead of being restricted to hardcore gamers who tend to buy the console a year before everyone else. The games are aimed at a wider audience and aren't that expensive.

I hadn't bothered with a console since the SNES days, but the Wii was just too tempting to miss out on.

I am not a massive fan of xboxes but in terms of value they destroy the Wii Play.com (UK) : Xbox 360 Core Console + Forza Motorsport 2 + Viva Pinata + Xbox Live Arcade Unplugged Vol 1 + Extra Controller : Xbox 360 - Free Delivery £149.99 2 games 2 controllers alot better than the Wii imo. People get tricked with the Wii thinking its great value but its not i don't think.

 

[tris-]

the wii is very expensive.
you need the console
a controller
make that 2 controllers
then you need a nunchuk
but youll need 2 of those
then you need some games

to buy a nunchuck and controller is about 50, so do it twice and youve spent 100 just on controllers!

 

[old.Tohtori]

im not exactly the biggest fan of a lot of your 'opinion' posts, but thats pretty moronic.
people buy them because they look fun? god help us all.

maybe its new technology like motion sensoring that will take the video game experience into the next generation? maybe people do actually have FUN playing them? i know i have loads of fun playing the Wii, my DS, guitar hero, whatever. or are you just sitting there with your C64, blessing the invention of the cassette?

I'm not ecaxtly a fan of misunderstand and insulting others for it.

People doens't mean ALL people. But Wii sells more because of the gimmick. As does the DS as did duckhunt 8-bit etc etc...

The people who don't buy a console, buy it for the gimmick, and it's f*cking marketed that way too.

The problem is, that because there's the gimmick, developers HAVE TO make gimmick working games and this, takes away from other aspects of the game.

And like you said "maybe people have FUN playing them", wasn't that what i said?

I'm sitting here, waiting for a game that wouldn't have the dreaded "casual gamer" in the selling points

 

[Calaen]

I'm not ecaxtly a fan of misunderstand and insulting others for it.

People doens't mean ALL people. But Wii sells more because of the gimmick. As does the DS as did duckhunt 8-bit etc etc...

The people who don't buy a console, buy it for the gimmick, and it's f*cking marketed that way too.

The problem is, that because there's the gimmick, developers HAVE TO make gimmick working games and this, takes away from other aspects of the game.

And like you said "maybe people have FUN playing them", wasn't that what i said?

I'm sitting here, waiting for a game that wouldn't have the dreaded "casual gamer" in the selling points

How many sales does it need to reach before you stop calling it a gimmick? A Gimmick is something with a short life span, by all accounts the majority of the people moaning about the Wii dont even have one.

Surely as a gamers developer or whatever it is you do you would like to work on innovative designs?

Knock the Wii as much as you want its performed amazingly in the sales departmnet regardless of the OMG GIVF LEET GRAPHICS crowd, they marketed it for everyone and are reaping the rewards.

Times have changed, there are alot more females playing video games now than there was 10 years ago, making games where both sexes can join in, the Wii does it. I sound like a right fucking fanboi but tbh I dont really even play on my Wii, it only gets used when I have my mates around, but for the cost of it I get alot more out of having it there than I would an xbox or a 360.

I didnt buy a xbox or a 360 because I wanted a gimmick over a console, I boughta wii because it wasnt trying to be a PC like the other. Its simple and if you can look away from the graphics, you have some decent enough titles out there to justify the price of one.

NOW GIVE ME SUPER PUNCH OUT!!!!!

 

[old.Tohtori]

Don't nitpick over words.

You have to agree on the points that:

A: Game developers MUST use the wii control system, and it's not a good thing.
B: If selling by a "feature" like that becomes a norm, and casual gaming becomes the standard of gaming, we lose the marvelous games we're used to.

They are fair points. No matter how good, fun, over-appealing the wii is. And i'm not saying it isn't.

Innovative design is all and well, but bloody heck, make a game for Wii that isn't controlled like a wankfest. There's a normal controller, use it. No need to ALWAYS use the features. Like said, what if PC folk didn't do single player games 'cause "pc has internets".

 

[Chronictank]

How many sales does it need to reach before you stop calling it a gimmick? A Gimmick is something with a short life span, by all accounts the majority of the people moaning about the Wii dont even have one.

Sales figures are meaningless to what is better value for money
Apple have prooven that a well advertised a inferior product will sell by the bucketload

And before you start, i have both a wii and a xbox
My wii hasn't been switched on for 4-5 months (in fact it was still in its box when i moved all my kit around) until Smash Bro's
Most wii games are worse because developers have tried to force the ridiculous movements into games, prime example being Mortal Kombat Armageddon

but you get the occasional gems despite the Nintendo machine has going into full swing with re-releases
There are maybe 5-6 games that are must have's for the wii imo
My recommends
Must haves:
Smash Bros
Mario Galaxy
No More Heroes
Resi Evil 4 <- rental
Zack and Wiki <- great game, was pleasantly surprised with this one
Metroid Prime 3
Mario Kart

some of the better ones
Wii Sports
Okami <- really enjoyed it for some odd reason,perhaps because i watched Wolf's Rain before hand
Zelda Twilight <- rental
Wario Smooth Moves <- i didnt like it, but my brother did
PES <- if your into football i guess

The wii is not cheap, so i wish people would stop using that line.
When you add all the extras it is the same if not more expensive than the xbox. Take it from someone who actually owns both

Based on Xbox Premium, 4 wireless controllers, VGA cable, charging packs + charge and play kit
vs
Wii, Component cable, 4 controllers, charging kit, rechargable batteries

 

[Wonk]

Pole Dancing: Help Make Wii Pole Dancing A Reality

Im officially getting a wii if this is being made

 

[Nate]

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End of the day Toht, Nintendo are bringing Gaming to a market that none of the other consoles do. It's not a Gimmick, it's a great way of expanding gaming beyond it's niche market. General population of gamers are sofa, button pushing, gamepad players, Wii gamers are people who stand up, wave there hands around, jump around the room, but still sometimes button pushing.

I really like what Nintendo done to Gaming, they are broadening the horizons to people who wouldn't have taken a second glance otherwise. To shun them because you think it's a "gimmick" is really quite narrow-minded, if you want to stay in your old ways of pushing buttons and keeping gaming where it is, never evolving passed it's previous form of getting graphics looking better, but not giving a crap about gameplay/interaction then stick with PS3/360 thats where there headed anyway.

This is not to say I don't play the 360 my brother owns or am thinking about buying a PS3.

 

[Chronictank]

End of the day Toht, Nintendo are bringing Gaming to a market that none of the other consoles do. It's not a Gimmick, it's a great way of expanding gaming beyond it's niche market. General population of gamers are sofa, button pushing, gamepad players, Wii gamers are people who stand up, wave there hands around, jump around the room, but still sometimes button pushing.

I really like what Nintendo done to Gaming, they are broadening the horizons to people who wouldn't have taken a second glance otherwise. To shun them because you think it's a "gimmick" is really quite narrow-minded, if you want to stay in your old ways of pushing buttons and keeping gaming where it is, never evolving passed it's previous form of getting graphics looking better, but not giving a crap about gameplay/interaction then stick with PS3/360 thats where there headed anyway.

This is not to say I don't play the 360 my brother owns or am thinking about buying a PS3.

I think you misunderstood him
he was saying that developers are forcing the wii controls into games rather than developing games to use them, and i agree with him alot of the games this is the case.

Games like no more hero's, smash bro's, resi evil 4, pes show it is possible to make good innovative games with the control system so its not as if it isn't possible. I am quite surpised lucas arts are taking so long to cash in on the starwars franchise

It is a good console, but it is being somewhat cheapened by developers rushing out games to cash in

 

[tris-]

the wii is -
expensive as fuck
appeals to people who dont have a clue
a console which only has shite gimmick games
expensive
has crappy visuals
crappy sound
something that appeals mainly to my mother and people of that age
expensive
a console whos main games consist of mario, sonic or a variant of mario and sonic.

how do i know?
ive got a 360 and my mother has more money than sense and bought it for the gimmicks. the games consisted of mario, sonic and mario and sonic.

 

[old.Tohtori]

As Chronic said, misunderstanding my points or just blind to them for the shear fan value.

And do notice i'm not saying Wii is cr*p, but there is danger in it.

Casual gaming is becoming the norm in games everywhere. Take a look at MMOs, the "ultimate" hardcore nerdfest that it was, is no more.

World of Warcraft, the things that people hate about it, and the massive popularity of it, is partly because of that two word combo "casual gaming". But casual gaming also means dumbing things down.

Try selling a game like panzer general* to nintendo and they'll probably say "it's not casual enough".
(*which by the way, would be awesome to play with the wii-controls)

 

[Hawkwind]

The Wii sells because it has fun games that are relatively easy for anyone to play and get into. My 7 year old son plays on it a lot even the sports/play games have not lost their novelty for him. Compared to games on PC which usually last a week or two. Purely beacuse they are more difficult. He has a PS2 as well but the Wii is his favourite. The graphics are OK and the gameplay controls are simple.

 

[old.Tohtori]

The Wii sells because it has fun games that are relatively easy for anyone to play and get into.

Exactly.

And that could becomne a problem, and this is from an "inside the game industry" point of view. I've bee hearing mroe and more of "we need to think like nintendo", or "the game needs to be more casual" and "casual games are the hit now".

That means, that if this trend stays, that in 10 years time you can kiss goodbye to any game that needs more brainpower then "red button bad, green button good"(patent pending).

About innovation in Wii games, unless you take into consideration the couple of gems in a pile of dung, the only innovation in Wii designs is "ooh we have a pointer-wagger thing!". So the "new" ideas in games involve either A: player pointing at stuff or B: Player wagging stick to compensate pressing button. I mean, come on. Some of the things are just ridicilous. Saw this football game of some sort, where there was nothing enw, basic football, but you controlled your character by pointing on the screen. Imagine! Point and it moves! When infact, a crosspad and two buttons would give the same amount of joy, as much as such game can.

With the pointywaggy stick of wii, sure, you can have innovation and new designs and step in a nice experience, but it also breeds lots..and i mean LOTS...of simple, mindnumbing games that are only "good" because of the pointywaggy stick and because that pointywaggy stick makes it different.

 

[Golena]

PS3's will start to catch up when people actually realise what you can do with them.

Sony didn't make a console, they made a home entertainment system and I probably spend more time on mine watching hi-def films and downloaded content than actually playing games.

Comparing sales figures of the Wii and PS3 are slightly pointless tho, since they went for different markets. All your proving is that one market is bigger currently than the other. Now that blu-ray has actually won the HD war then i'd expect to see it selling well for a good while to come, and the extra cash that Sony invested in it will be realised in many more ways than simply the sale of the console box which is all Nintendo have to go on.

edit: I have a wii as well and it's great fun, but it's a console and that's it. The PS3 is just so much more.

 

[BloodOmen]

A big sale point for sony is the final fantasy games alone the games series alone will be responsible for a truck load of sales.