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Eemma

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Rushie said:
its called assisting the debuffer mate, and i hate to break the news to u but im an alb and dont have access to them classes, if ur implying that i only play fotm classes, im just gonna laugh at that.

better luck next time.

p.s. 4 ppl cant hide in a bush very well, should think about that next time ur dropping a p font in wide open space, u lost coz of ur stupidty, get over it.

well I hope you are speaking the truth about not only playing fotm class :)

ps we just finished fighting a mincer cleric and armsman and some other assisnt add, the fop was dropped in middle of combat and we were getting ready to move :)

or.. werent you in the ''cg'' ?
 

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"Working as intended" im afraid :( Damage is nasty with or without debuff they should increase pow cost of it at least to compensate for it being so bloody damaging.
 

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Filip said:
Gahhhhh guys !!!!! you answer him to fast!! i been waiting years to yell this back.

Get skillz!!!
Get a template!!
learn you'r class!!!
Get a desent setup dont run 4 wardens in the same group!!!

ahhhh.............................


ok mate :wanker:
 

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Eemma said:
I'd like to see a ss with chanter dealing more dmg with baseline nuke without debuff before I believe that.. hmm in fact I'll test it myself soon. I seriously doubt that chanter baseline nuke is 0.01s slower.. the charecter builder might say so but its lying... but It will be tested and see if they nuke with the same casting speed as sorc Lifetap

598 at cap with lifetap nuke is too much tho? when its 179 delve..

chanter base DD is 179 delve sorc lifetap is 179 delve, with the same gear/ras they will do same damage. Log in with ur chanter and im quite sure the delve will say 2.6s casttime, mine says 2.5. And no its not too much delve x3 + RAs and items, got 597.0366 so i guess daoc prints it as 598 since there is no , ? dunno but something like that. 179x3 = 537 x 1.09 = 585.33 x 1,02 = 597.0366 I REALLY suck at maths tho ;p
 

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bult said:
chanter base DD is 179 delve sorc lifetap is 179 delve, with the same gear/ras they will do same damage. Log in with ur chanter and im quite sure the delve will say 2.6s casttime, mine says 2.5. And no its not too much delve x3 + RAs and items, got 597.0366 so i guess daoc prints it as 598 since there is no , ? dunno but something like that. 179x3 = 537 x 1.09 = 585.33 x 1,02 = 597.0366 I REALLY suck at maths tho ;p

I dont have a chanter :p else I would have known thier casting speed and dmg :)
 

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I wish i was joking but im afraid its as mythic put it "working as intended"

I could have understood them giving it to cabbys perhaps as ofc the debuff would be in vivi spell line thus making them have to split spec a little to get debuff for damage but giving it sorcs as well and on top of that all the toa bonuses and ml goodies etc its too much tbh.

Rushed is a pretty good sorc i will give him that and if u got debuffed by cabby and havent had chance to interupt either of them u are pretty much dead :(
 

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I think you will find that for some reason sorc does more damage even if the delve is the same for some reason.

Edit. Im sure i read that somewhere looking thro various boards
 

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Kelan said:
I wish i was joking but im afraid its as mythic put it "working as intended"

I could have understood them giving it to cabbys perhaps as ofc the debuff would be in vivi spell line thus making them have to split spec a little to get debuff for damage but giving it sorcs as well and on top of that all the toa bonuses and ml goodies etc its too much tbh.

Rushed is a pretty good sorc i will give him that and if u got debuffed by cabby and havent had chance to interupt either of them u are pretty much dead :(

I never said he was bad.. I'm just whining about thier dmg and casting speed ^^

I was the first to be targetted and went down instantly with 2 sorc? nuking. didnt have time to react. Even Blizzardblade whom I was groupped with didnt have time to use IP.. saw him walk 2-3 steps and went down.
 

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Kelan said:
I wish i was joking but im afraid its as mythic put it "working as intended"

I could have understood them giving it to cabbys perhaps as ofc the debuff would be in vivi spell line thus making them have to split spec a little to get debuff for damage but giving it sorcs as well and on top of that all the toa bonuses and ml goodies etc its too much tbh.

Rushed is a pretty good sorc i will give him that and if u got debuffed by cabby and havent had chance to interupt either of them u are pretty much dead :(

Sorcs specc 44mind cabas specc 46? spirit, big fucking deal they both have to specc almost the same and get almost the same amount of body. Sorcs can of course go for bodyspecc but that is NOT as good no matter how many kids think it is when they wank over thier slightly better damage screenshots.
 

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Same thing happens to all of us im afraid, mythic just dont want to listen to us but with a larger % of albs keeping the coffers full for them they will keep them happier for longer.

It may not be true but at times it sure feels like it.
 

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I was in a duo with my good friend Sculptor (cabby) and hes a damn fine MA, we never join any cg's and we been duo'ing for over a year now so we know each others play style very well, sometimes it all goes horribly wrong and sometimes it doesnt, its a chance we are willing to take for the rewards.
 

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The only reason people are whining so much about Albion now is that pretty much ALL the good mids/hibs quite due to NF beeing zerg heaven. The mids/hibs that are left are all shit and thus need to whine.
 

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Afaik no spell can be casted faster than 0.8 sec, even though there is no real hardcap, but around there is where you will land with max dex and toabonuses etc. So that means 3 taps in 1.6 sec for a fully toa'ed sorc and probably 3 in 2 sec for alot of them.

All casting speed should be nerfed anyway, not only sorcs lifetap. A hardcap of 2 sec would be nice f.ex.
 

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Erm bult i dont get wat u trying to say,prolly cus its late and im sleepy.

Oh and if MA was taken out from game im sure that might make things more interesting for all the sorcs/casters with 2 left hands :)
 

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Who cares if a sorc do 5 more damage or not, the point is sorcs do cc + damage in alb groups, just as healers do cc + healing and bards do cc + utility.

The only new thing is sorcs new ra to survive assist trains, and the fact
certain overpowered ra's been removed.

Yes sorc very very strong against single melee opponents like stealthers now,
but complaining about damage is plain stupid.

If an enemy mage gets the drop on you, and you dont have backup your dead, nomatter what.

Well a certain tank armor do helps atm :)
 

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Kinad said:
Who cares if a sorc do 5 more damage or not, the point is sorcs do cc + damage in alb groups, just as healers do cc + healing and bards do cc + utility.

The only new thing is sorcs new ra to survive assist trains, and the fact
certain overpowered ra's been removed.

Yes sorc very very strong against single melee opponents like stealthers now,
but complaining about damage is plain stupid.

If an enemy mage gets the drop on you, and you dont have backup your dead, nomatter what.

So you dont find it just alittle fucked up to be nuked for 500-900 dmg with baseline nuke and CAN do it with the speed of light?

Bards do cc + utility?
 

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Eemma said:
So you dont find it just alittle fucked up to be nuked for 500-900 dmg with baseline?

Bards do cc + utility?


hello earth to noob, i was assiting a cabby.

im mind specced so my average nuke is around 350-450 (31+18 body also) depending on targets body resists, also my nuke cap was much more pre-nf.
 

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Rushie said:
I was in a duo with my good friend Sculptor (cabby) and hes a damn fine MA, we never join any cg's and we been duo'ing for over a year now so we know each others play style very well, sometimes it all goes horribly wrong and sometimes it doesnt, its a chance we are willing to take for the rewards.


That's fine but you should stop accusing ppl for standing in open area when you dont know the reason tho... its plain BS.

btw didnt you see our those albs DM? I mean.. you must have since you came straight after they died.. If you did then you certenly must know why we stood there.
 

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Eemma said:
That's fine but you should stop accusing ppl for standing in open area when you dont know the reason tho... its plain BS.

btw didnt you see our those albs DM? I mean.. you must have since you came straight after they died.. If you did then you certenly must know why we stood there.

its quite clear ur just whining for the sake of whining, u killed us the run b4 we killed u, so we were both aware of each others presence in the general area. we were just about to go over bled bridge when i saw a firbys giant ass sticking out from a bush and we proceeded to get the jump and kill u all, in fact we got the jump when u beat us too but every single 1 of u purged and instas were flying around so dont gimme the nerf sorc bullshit, was ur purges down or something this time?
 

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Rushie said:
hello earth to noob, i was assiting a cabby.

im mind specced so my average nuke is around 350-450 (31+18 body also) depending on targets body resists, also my nuke cap was much more pre-nf.

noob to mr earth 2x 500+ 1x 895

i've never been nuked for lesser than 500+ by sorc, so unless sorc crits every nuke then your avarange dmg is 500+ not 350 - 450 but also might be that ur sorc is a gimp ^^
 

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Eemma said:
noob to mr earth 2x 500+ 1x 895

i've never been nuked for lesser than 500+ by sorc, so unless sorc crits every nuke then your avarange dmg is 500+ not 350 - 450 but also might be that ur sorc is a gimp ^^

now ur just talking shit, show me a sorc who nukes u for 500+ (baseline LT ofc) without debuffs EVERY nuke and ill show u a liar, the only way that could happen is if u have seriously gimped body resists, especially from a mind sorc.

u started this thread claiming sorcs are overpowered (referring to MY nukes) and now ur saying my sorc is a gimp? seems like ur very confused.
 

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Rushie said:
its quite clear ur just whining for the sake of whining, u killed us the run b4 we killed u, so we were both aware of each others presence in the general area. we were just about to go over bled bridge when i saw a firbys giant ass sticking out from a bush and we proceeded to get the jump and kill u all, in fact we got the jump when u beat us too but every single 1 of u purged and instas were flying around so dont gimme the nerf sorc bullshit, was ur purges down or something this time?


I'm whining @ u becuz of your ''p.s. 4 ppl cant hide in a bush very well, should think about that next time ur dropping a p font in wide open space, u lost coz of ur stupidty, get over it.'' Bullshit shit head, and I dont know you or care enough to remember who the fuck you were when we killed you. we won first fight becuz you played bad maybe? second time was just plain bullshit.. Mezz - insta kill me so fast that I didnt even have time to purge and insta aoe root you. tell me WHO's insta did you see other than your nuke????

Stop the shit that is comming out of your mouth and Think before you write something shithead... jeez you manage to piss me off quite well lol
 

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Eemma said:
I'm whining @ u becuz of your ''p.s. 4 ppl cant hide in a bush very well, should think about that next time ur dropping a p font in wide open space, u lost coz of ur stupidty, get over it.'' Bullshit shit head, and I dont know you or care enough to remember who the fuck you were when we killed you. we won first fight becuz you played bad maybe? second time was just plain bullshit.. Mezz - insta kill me so fast that I didnt even have time to purge and insta aoe root you. tell me WHO's insta did you see other than your nuke????

Stop the shit that is comming out of your mouth and Think before you write something shithead... jeez you manage to piss me off quite well lol

lololol ah the insults........ now we get to the real reason

u got owned by half ur numbers in less than 10 secs and u just cant take it, get over it mate its only a game.

ur replies just getting funnier and funnier :clap:
 

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Rushie said:
now ur just talking shit, show me a sorc who nukes u for 500+ (baseline LT ofc) without debuffs EVERY nuke and ill show u a liar, the only way that could happen is if u have seriously gimped body resists, especially from a mind sorc.

u started this thread claiming sorcs are overpowered (referring to MY nukes) and now ur saying my sorc is a gimp? seems like ur very confused.

Azo managed to do this to my BM which has Body resist near cap.
in fact all sorc managed to do this to my BM.

seriously tho, wtf would I lie? its just a fact that Sorc CAN do this..
I guess your too stubborn to believe anything else...
 

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Eemma said:
Azo managed to do this to my BM which has Body resist near cap.
in fact all sorc managed to do this to my BM.

seriously tho, wtf would I lie? its just a fact that Sorc CAN do this..
I guess your too stubborn to believe anything else...

facts are usually backed up with proof..... wheres urs? u got none ur just spouting more shit by the minute.

i played my sorc for 1.5 years now and im well aware of the capabilities of my class.
 

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Rushie said:
lololol ah the insults........ now we get to the real reason

u got owned by half ur numbers in less than 10 secs and u just cant take it, get over it mate its only a game.

Whatever you say mate :wanker:

now tell me what might be the reason to we got pwned? ;)
Might be becuz you got a nice jump on us
or might be becuz what sorc are capable of?
might just be both

Rushie said:
ur replies just getting funnier and funnier :clap:

You should listen to yourself then :puke:
 

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Rushie said:
facts are usually backed up with proof..... wheres urs? u got none ur just spouting more shit by the minute.

i played my sorc for 1.5 years now and im well aware of the capabilities of my class.


Show me yours then :m00:

I've been nuked many times by various mages to know what dmg they are capable of doing.
 

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