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Eemma

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Is Sorc Lifetap gonna be nerfed anytime soon?
It's just bullshit getting nuked for 900 dmg and die in less then 2 sec...
 

bakfall

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they only nuke for 900 dmg with good crit and debuff from a cabby else they only nuke for +500 with baseline nuke while sm with spec nuke hit for 300 :)

its balanced and i wouldnt want it any other way.
 

Mirt

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Heh, there is smth to be said for taking dmg so fast that you don't have time to IP.

Ofc it all swings in roundabouts. I'm sure being nuked by elwizardo after a heat debuff is very simmilar.
 

Eemma

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bakfall said:
they only nuke for 900 dmg with good crit and debuff from a cabby else they only nuke for +500 with baseline nuke while sm with spec nuke hit for 300 :)

its balanced and i wouldnt want it any other way.

well the problem is they hit for 900 often becuz they cast 2 lifetap per sec :x
 

tookha

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bakfall said:
they only nuke for 900 dmg with good crit and debuff from a cabby else they only nuke for +500 with baseline nuke while sm with spec nuke hit for 300 :)

Never been hit for 900~ by a sorc tbh but I've done 800~ on quite a few targets with cap dmg and a decent crit.
 

Eemma

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Evull said:
is that really so?

Well no, but 3 lifetap in 2sec is true tho
I figuire they can do 5-6 lifetap in 3 sec

ayway fuck it, I just want thier casting speed nerfed and dmg lower so they cant nuke for more then spec nuke

Funny tho, Alb has dmg dealer as a cc'er mid has main healer as the most powerful cc'er in game? Hibs has a guy/girl that play instrument as main cc'er
 

Eemma

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Evull said:
Never been hit for 900~ by a sorc tbh but I've done 800~ on quite a few targets with cap dmg and a decent crit.

I've been nuked for 895.. 5 dmg away from 900 might as well say 900 and I wasnt debuffed (i think, went down so fast that I couldnt react)
 

tookha

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Was mainly an answer to bakfall who implied that spiritmasters do 300 damage consistantly :)

Edit: And if you got hit for 895 without being debuffed you should redo your template and put in some resists in it next time :D
 

Antedeluvian

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Eemma said:
Well no, but 3 lifetap in 2sec is true tho
I figuire they can do 5-6 lifetap in 3 sec


Yes is true.... in your dreams of whines and tears :kissit:

I asked you in your last nerf-sorcs thread and i ask you again, i see in your sign a RR8.... ebayed?
 

Invisibul

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900+ dmg is possible on sorc :D

47 body, RR5, mom3, no toa % spell dmg yet. Used moon staff to debuff then switched back to Traldors and nuked with spec dd.

screenshot is from bb who had max body resist prior to debuff, and was buffed etc.

sorcdmgRR5.JPG


if u can't see pic, i'm sry, lame webbie.
 

Eemma

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Antedeluvian said:
Yes is true.... in your dreams of whines and tears :kissit:

I asked you in your last nerf-sorcs thread and i ask you again, i see in your sign a RR8.... ebayed?

I see in your signature that you dont have a sorc nor have been up against one since u are saying this... ask someone (high rr preferable) to nuke you when he is fully buffed and lets see if I am dreaming or? and yes I whine and I have a reason to.

afaik I havnt made a nerf sorc thread before but if you dont agree with me that sorc baseline nuke needs to be fixed then... HAHAHA.. regarding my Title I've earned my RR8 title fair and square... unlike you... zergling?

Don't Talk shit if you don't have a clue randomn00b :eek:
 

Eemma

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Evull said:
Was mainly an answer to bakfall who implied that spiritmasters do 300 damage consistantly :)

Edit: And if you got hit for 895 without being debuffed you should redo your template and put in some resists in it next time :D

resist is cap, but didnt have resist spell up tho. I figuire it was a huge crit.. but still its a baseline nuke :( and I didnt say I didnt get debuffed.. I went down instantly when the 2 sorcs nuked me... mezz - 1st nuke resisted - 2nd nuke 895 3rd nuke 500+ 4th nuke 500+.. hmm I should have ss'd the log...
 

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Eemma said:
Is Sorc Lifetap gonna be nerfed anytime soon?
It's just bullshit getting nuked for 900 dmg and die in less then 2 sec...

Its just bullshit being stunned and nuked 6 times too in less than 6 sec, or
being instamezzed and bombed.
 

Eemma

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Kinad said:
Its just bullshit being stunned and nuked 6 times too in less than 6 sec, or
being instamezzed and bombed.

huh?
 

Eemma

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Rushie said:
dry ur eyes mate :wanker:

hey you were 1 of the 2 that pwned a group of 4 in less then 6-8sec? did your caba friend debuffed me? or was he a sorc too? didnt notice was amaze by how fast I went down and couldnt take my eyes away from the dmg msg rofl

but seriously :p you can do better than ''dry your eyes mate'' :wanker:
anyway, I bet when Banshee and warlocks comes you'll be the first to ding lv 50 haha :rolleyes:
 

bult

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900? that is only possible after debuff unless you got like 0 body ressist, my sorc caps at 598 dmg with mom1 and 9% magic dmg from items and 625 with arch magery active (5mins/30mins) with a 50% crit that means 897/937,5. So id need those RAs or more (at rr9 i only recently started investing in those) and i would need to hit cap dmg + 50% crit. Not exactly something that happens often. Pretty much any nukerclass can do this damage or more with 1 nuke, the problem isnt that, the problem is a combination of three things. 1. lifetap 2. Nice dmg 3. castspeed . We dont do more damage then say a chanter per nuke like you seem to think we cast 0.01s faster then chanters tho and ours is lifedrain, they get heatdebuff so they will outdamage us when we aint grouped with a debuffer.
 

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The old LA didnt used to fucking whine this much did they?
 

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bult said:
900? that is only possible after debuff unless you got like 0 body ressist, my sorc caps at 598 dmg with mom1 and 9% magic dmg from items and 625 with arch magery active (5mins/30mins) with a 50% crit that means 897/937,5. So id need those RAs or more (at rr9 i only recently started investing in those) and i would need to hit cap dmg + 50% crit. Not exactly something that happens often. Pretty much any nukerclass can do this damage or more with 1 nuke, the problem isnt that, the problem is a combination of three things. 1. lifetap 2. Nice dmg 3. castspeed . We dont do more damage then say a chanter per nuke like you seem to think we cast 0.01s faster then chanters tho and ours is lifedrain, they get heatdebuff so they will outdamage us when we aint grouped with a debuffer.


I'd like to see a ss with chanter dealing more dmg with baseline nuke without debuff before I believe that.. hmm in fact I'll test it myself soon. I seriously doubt that chanter baseline nuke is 0.01s slower.. the charecter builder might say so but its lying... but It will be tested and see if they nuke with the same casting speed as sorc Lifetap

598 at cap with lifetap nuke is too much tho? when its 179 delve..
 

Invisibul

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about my ss that can't be seen :( simply shows me nuking for 934.

cap is 672, 706 with arch magery. Casting speed for spec nuke is at 1.24 seconds atm, lifetap is 1.16 seconds or something close to them figures, according to dmg calcs etc.

RR5 47 body, mom 3, wp2, 10% resist pericing, all power relics :) (am on prydwen btw) tend to nuke 400-800, quite a large area of variance, but thats resists and crits.

Had 421 (-217) on a celt warden with 49% body resists, so not too bad.
 

Eemma

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Poon said:
The old LA didnt used to fucking whine this much did they?

Funny... I dont recall whining THAT much? iirc this my one of the first whine thread from me? and tbh It's a good pretty damn good reason to whine..
 

Eemma

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Invisibul said:
about my ss that can't be seen :( simply shows me nuking for 934.

cap is 672, 706 with arch magery.

RR5 47 body, mom 3, wp2, 10% resist pericing, all power relics :) (am on prydwen btw) tend to nuke 400-800, quite a large area of variance, but thats resists and crits.

Had 421 (-217) on a celt warden with 49% body resists, so not too bad.


lol 421 on a warden with 49% body resists? :p spechless >.<
 

Invisibul

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Eemma said:
lol 421 on a warden with 49% body resists? :p spechless >.<

he couldn't believe it either, talked on irc to him, he said it was just sick.
 

bult

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Eemma said:
lol 421 on a warden with 49% body resists? :p spechless >.<

He is talking about his specnuke tho im quite sure ;) wich is the same damage as lighteld/light menta/theurg/light chanter
 

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Eemma said:
hey you were 1 of the 2 that pwned a group of 4 in less then 6-8sec? did your caba friend debuffed me? or was he a sorc too? didnt notice was amaze by how fast I went down and couldnt take my eyes away from the dmg msg rofl

but seriously :p you can do better than ''dry your eyes mate'' :wanker:
anyway, I bet when Banshee and warlocks comes you'll be the first to ding lv 50 haha :rolleyes:

its called assisting the debuffer mate, and i hate to break the news to u but im an alb and dont have access to them classes, if ur implying that i only play fotm classes, im just gonna laugh at that.

better luck next time.

p.s. 4 ppl cant hide in a bush very well, should think about that next time ur dropping a p font in wide open space, u lost coz of ur stupidty, get over it.
 

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bult said:
He is talking about his specnuke tho im quite sure ;) wich is the same damage as lighteld/light menta/theurg/light chanter

I hope so :)
 

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Gahhhhh guys !!!!! you answer him to fast!! i been waiting years to yell this back.

Get skillz!!!
Get a template!!
learn you'r class!!!
Get a desent setup dont run 4 wardens in the same group!!!

ahhhh.............................
 

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