Jumpgate : Evolution trailers

[cHodAX]

Finally the trailers are out, have a nosey and then discuss!

Jumpgate Evolution Trailers - Voodoo Extreme

 

[Dreamor]

Have a look at the official site:

Link

Beta signups are done there, put your name down!

Release is pencil marked for September as I hear it

 

[old.Tohtori]

The thing is, why jumpgate when you can EVE?

Only thing i see better, is A: dogfights(which brings the negative of "uber" players) and B: Customization (which brings imba sets up the wazoo).

Just don't know if it's worth the time, when they probably have to go though the same problems etc that EVE has done for years.

 

[Calaen]

The thing is, why jumpgate when you can EVE?

Only thing i see better, is A: dogfights(which brings the negative of "uber" players) and B: Customization (which brings imba sets up the wazoo).

Just don't know if it's worth the time, when they probably have to go though the same problems etc that EVE has done for years.

come off it

two of the most important things in gaming today, the ability to have great battles with other people and the ability to have enemies recognise who you are via your ship.

 

[old.Tohtori]

come off it

two of the most important things in gaming today, the ability to have great battles with other people and the ability to have enemies recognise who you are via your ship.

Not really, but not the point either.

You have those elements in EVE anyhoo.

The points i said, are up there, dogfighting meaning maneuvering with a joystick.

Both have good and bad points.

Just thinking it's not enough to validate changing.

 

[cHodAX]

The thing is, why jumpgate when you can EVE?

Only thing i see better, is A: dogfights(which brings the negative of "uber" players) and B: Customization (which brings imba sets up the wazoo).

Just don't know if it's worth the time, when they probably have to go though the same problems etc that EVE has done for years.

All I answer that with is skill based combat, not stat based. If you suck at fighting become a miner/trader/pve player but if you are good at games requireing skill and dexterity then Jumpgate is space shooter PvP heaven.

 

[cHodAX]

The points i said, are up there, dogfighting meaning maneuvering with a joystick.

Jumpgate's dogfighting does not require a joystick, they have a beautiful WASD system in place for the new game and the controls got high praise over at Warcry. The controls are deliberately being setup to be more accessilble this time.


WarCry Network : Jumpgate Evolution: Hands-On Preview and Q&A

 

[Lethul]

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Might have to try Jumpgate tho if my comp is up for it!

 

[old.Tohtori]

All I answer that with is skill based combat, not stat based. If you suck at fighting become a miner/trader/pve player but if you are good at games requireing skill and dexterity then Jumpgate is space shooter PvP heaven.

Aye, that's what i said.

(even if "skill" is relative, you do mean hand-eye-co-ordination )

It can be a problem, or not. Depends on how the pvp/loss/area/etc is done.

Just seems like its a wing commander style EVE, but with less then EVE.

Jumpgate's dogfighting does not require a joystick, they have a beautiful WASD system in place for the new game and the controls got high praise over at Warcry. The controls are deliberately being setup to be more accessilble this time.

Joystick was meant as a "reference" of sorts, to say what i meant.

 

[Lethul]

Just seems like its a wing commander style EVE, but with less then EVE.

How is that a bad thing? The Wing Commander series are legendary!
EVE is just a spacemmo (niche market)

 

[cHodAX]

Might have to try Jumpgate tho if my comp is up for it!

The recommended specs will be very reasonable, any graphics card less than 3 years old will be able to run it pretty much at max detail. Older cards will still run fine on medium though.

Read the preview I posted above, it has alot more detail.

 

[Lethul]

The recommended specs will be very reasonable, any graphics card less than 3 years old will be able to run it pretty much at max detail. Older cards will still run fine on medium though.

Read the preview I posted above, it has alot more detail.

Ye i've read it. But my comp is 5 years old Hopefully will afford a new one after summer tho. Here's for hoping *crossing fingers*

Altho i have a reasonable GFX card and can handle X3 at quite nice GFX. So should atleast be able to play it regardless

 

[old.Tohtori]

How is that a bad thing? The Wing Commander series are legendary!
EVE is just a spacemmo (niche market)

EVE isn't just a mmo, it's quite different from any other mmo out there and it's closest to elite that any game has come. More of a space simulator. Especially with the amount of players in one universe.

Wing commander style is all good and well, but when you get gankers and such, it might become a problem. Not to mention flying with lag. Ngh.

It's a "we'll see", but as such, from features and all, it doesn't seem to offer much over the pre-mentioned.

By the way, i'm not saying "jumpgate sucks balls", i'm trying to get some feedback on what else makes it worth the time if one is spending time on EVE already?

 

[Lethul]

EVE isn't just a mmo, it's quite different from any other mmo out there and it's closest to elite that any game has come. More of a space simulator. Especially with the amount of players in one universe.

Wing commander style is all good and well, but when you get gankers and such, it might become a problem. Not to mention flying with lag. Ngh.

It's a "we'll see", but as such, from features and all, it doesn't seem to offer much over the pre-mentioned.

Wouldn't you say privateer, X serie etc are more like Elite than EVE?

 

[old.Tohtori]

Wouldn't you say privateer, X serie etc are more like Elite than EVE?

Online game.

With people.

 

[Lethul]

Online game.

With people.

You said any game tho..

But still, with your logic one could say

Why WoW when you can DAoC?

Only thing i see better, is A: Quest(which brings the negative of "grind" players) and B: Marketing (which floods the server with teens).

 

[old.Tohtori]

You said any game tho..

But still, with your logic one could say

Why WoW when you can DAoC?

Only thing i see better, is A: Quest(which brings the negative of "grind" players) and B: Marketing (which floods the server with teens).

Yes i know what i said, corrected it, and i thought it was given with the context of mmos.

On the rest, exactly my point.

But then people can say what IS good about WoW compared to DAoC or vise versa.

Stop taking it as an attack on your precious jumpgate and give me some feedback on the question. I'm starting to feel, from the replies so far, that there aren't any other good points then dogfighting.

 

[Ctuchik]

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Might have to try Jumpgate tho if my comp is up for it!

ooooh, loved X2 even tho i couldn't get my head around it :/

 

[cHodAX]

Stop taking it as an attack on your precious jumpgate and give me some feedback on the question. I'm starting to feel, from the replies so far, that there aren't any other good points then dogfighting.

Well the PvP is the best part of the game but I do see your point. The problem is that the game is still alpha so alot of the details are still sketchy but here are a few things off the top of my head.

A very detailed economy that is totally reliant on miners and traders to function and which only produces player usable equipment if the components are supplied by both.

Customiseable ships through the ship equipment screen where you have a vast array of weaponry, engines, shields, radar, missles, countermeasures, mining equipment, fuel tanks for added range, fuel scoops, blackmarket equipment for stealing others cargo etc...

A quest system and overall plot that pits 3 factions against each other as well as pirates and the Conflux alien species.

PvE and PvP space station raids, player owned stations for trading and manufacturing.

Bounty Hunting.

The ability to become a pirate and either steal others cargo or blow them up and scavenge the remains.

There is more but they won't be announcing the more detailed stuff till nearer release.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Thanks cHodAX.

The only thing is, all of that is in EVE too, now that i see that their "ship customization" is actually/probably the same, as in; ship model same, equipment different.

So it's down to controls at this stage.

EVE would be better with those controls in it, partly, but as such, i think the rest of the cake has to go to EVE as, well, it's been around a long time and learned/adapted/fixed things.

 

[Lethul]

ooooh, loved X2 even tho i couldn't get my head around it :/

X3 been around quite a while mate

X3: TC is actually X4

 

[Lethul]

Yes i know what i said, corrected it, and i thought it was given with the context of mmos.

On the rest, exactly my point.

But then people can say what IS good about WoW compared to DAoC or vise versa.

Stop taking it as an attack on your precious jumpgate and give me some feedback on the question. I'm starting to feel, from the replies so far, that there aren't any other good points then dogfighting.

I don't take it as an attack

I hardly even know what Jumpgate is.

 

[old.Tohtori]

I don't take it as an attack

I hardly even know what Jumpgate is.

And that hardly was the point...anyway, thanks for saying that.

 

[Lethul]

But then people can say what IS good about WoW compared to DAoC or vise versa.

I'd like to hear that

 

[Lethul]

+ any game that caters skillfull pvp over timespending pvp is far superior imo (even if pvp will take time to set up in every game)

 

[old.Tohtori]

+ any game that caters skillfull pvp over timespending pvp is far superior imo (even if pvp will take time to set up in every game)

Common misconception.

Timespending ALWAYS gives you an edge.

Be it in skill, equipment, etc.

You'll see it in Jumpgate too, those who play 12h a day, will be flying bigger and badder ships, wwhile ganking the lower ones.

About WoW and what is better, not getting into that, a powder keg waiting to happen that discussion.

 

[Mauness]

Thanks cHodAX.

The only thing is, all of that is in EVE too, now that i see that their "ship customization" is actually/probably the same, as in; ship model same, equipment different.

So it's down to controls at this stage.

EVE would be better with those controls in it, partly, but as such, i think the rest of the cake has to go to EVE as, well, it's been around a long time and learned/adapted/fixed things.

The time to actually learn the game is far far less in jumpgate than on EVE, which is a plus point imo.

But im biased i played jumpgate back on the EU days and fell in love with it straight away, the player base was fantastic too.

So i truely cant wait for the beta's to start, looking forward to it more than WAR

 

[Lethul]

Common misconception.

Timespending ALWAYS gives you an edge.

Be it in skill, equipment, etc.

You'll see it in Jumpgate too, those who play 12h a day, will be flying bigger and badder ships, while ganking the lower ones.

Yes, but i still prefer real skill (you being a better pilot for real rather than a skill ingame telling you that). And the fact that you gain REAL skill by doing something it will of course have an impact.

About the ships, nobody say the bigger badder ships will be real pvp gank ships. Hopefully they will be slow sluggish battleships, while pvp:ers will want something that can catch up to other peoples ship. Don't know if this will be the case tho

I don't know if Jumpgate will have this tho (chodax to the rescue!). Personally i think the game market is starting to grow tired of RNGMMO games, or well i hope so.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Yes, but i still prefer real skill (you being a better pilot for real rather than a skill ingame telling you that). And the fact that you gain REAL skill by doing something it will of course have an impact.

About the ships, nobody say the bigger badder ships will be real pvp gank ships. Hopefully they will be slow sluggish battleships, while pvp:ers will want something that can catch up to other peoples ship. Don't know if this will be the case tho

I don't know if Jumpgate will have this tho (chodax to the rescue!). Personally i think the game market is starting to grow tired of RNGMMO games, or well i hope so.

I don't think better hand-eye co-ordination is the REAL skill, it takes skill to play MMOs too, effectively.

True about the ships, don't know yet what will come, but still, better equipment is given to the timespenders and as such, grinding will come to play too and as such, summa summarum, timespenders will be the "leet" ones ganking low ones.

I also think that MMOs should stay, as they are endless fun if you like them. Those, 10h games are good and well, but i want something i can go back to every now and then.

 

[Lethul]

I don't think better hand-eye co-ordination is the REAL skill, it takes skill to play MMOs too, effectively.

True about the ships, don't know yet what will come, but still, better equipment is given to the timespenders and as such, grinding will come to play too and as such, summa summarum, timespenders will be the "leet" ones ganking low ones.

I also think that MMOs should stay, as they are endless fun if you like them. Those, 10h games are good and well, but i want something i can go back to every now and then.

I think hand-eye coordination, tactics etc should be the deciding factor if you got equal ships. Not just a stat that says you are better. Of course bigger lasers etc give you an edge

I also think MMO's should stay. But i think RNG (random number generator) games should go. Like DAoC/WoW/prolly Warhammer. I see no fun in attacking an enemy and let the computer decide if i break his defense/how much i hit him for/how much damage i do (i did before tho).