Israel/Palestine (Conflict to more Conflicts)

Scouse

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This sort of stuff needs to get pasted all over American media.
 

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The failure by both the European Commission and the EU member states to act appropriately according to international law, human rights and its own values and beliefs is making Europe complicit in the war crimes and crimes against humanity perpetrated by Israel
 

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Yup, it's disgusting. Israel has too much dirt on people and/or is just too financially intertwined with governments around the world so no one will act to stop them. Israel needs cutting off and made a pariah or they simply will not stop, they'll keep pushing and pushing until sooner or later Muslims rally, form a massive Islamic army and roll over Israel.

Israel should be cut off from any and all arms supplies and have massive sanctions slapped on it.
 

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But when I go on about state of free speech in the UK, I get criticised and told I'm not being critical enough of Trump.

We're israel's bitches with a full-blown zionist PM. We're complicit in clear war crimes.
 

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But when I go on about state of free speech in the UK, I get criticised and told I'm not being critical enough of Trump.

We're israel's bitches with a full-blown zionist PM. We're complicit in clear war crimes.

One side is criticising a genocidal state. One side wants a genocidal state.

Although to be fair, I don't really know what The Young Turks have said that's anti-semitic, I've tried to google it but it just comes up with anti-zionism, which in the world we live in is anti-semitic.

People from the far right that have been banned from the country call for 'remigration' which is genocide under current definitions (see Russia).
 

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Although to be fair, I don't really know what The Young Turks have said that's anti-semitic, I've tried to google it but it just comes up with anti-zionism, which in the world we live in is anti-semitic.
I think the point is that under Labour specifically we've seen a massive retrenchment of our long-held supposed freedoms.

How many people do we have to ban, how many people do we have to proscribe, how many people do we have to lock up in this country before we see this?
 

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Although to be fair, I don't really know what The Young Turks have said that's anti-semitic, I've tried to google it but it just comes up with anti-zionism, which in the world we live in is anti-semitic.
I don't know him either but if he's anything like that Hasan slimeball I can understand why he's banned. Another disgusting human being who in any other timeline would be utterly reviled. It's funny how all those bitching the loudest about being "anti-zionism, but not anti-isreal" tend to be narcissistic right-of-right-wing cunts and all around pieces of shit whose only concept of an intelligent, nuanced discussion is who can shout the loudest.
 
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The UK recently raised its terror threat level so the folks making these calls probably a little on edge.

i assume the UK doesn’t publish official reasons for this kind of thing either which lets the folks affected control the narrative.
 

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Just that America was all silent when the IRA was shutting down my local train station all the fucking time (amongst other things obvs) despite them being a major source of funding.
 

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They will make a really dark comedy about all this some day. It's beyond mental now.
 

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It was the same when they were funding the IRA tbh...
It really isn't. One was a bunch of twats in Boston with a huge dose of plastic-paddyism and the other is the entire US government subsidising an entire country's "defence" budget.
 

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It really isn't. One was a bunch of twats in Boston with a huge dose of plastic-paddyism and the other is the entire US government subsidising an entire country's "defence" budget.
Yep. But I was actually referring to nobody speaking out.
 

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Yep. But I was actually referring to nobody speaking out.

Lots of people spoke out, surprisingly a lot of them Irish Americans. Ted Kennedy and Tip O'Neill (Speaker of the House) were vociferous critics of Noraid and the IRA. All of the major newspapers, including the Boston Globe ran exposes on them and the DOJ forced Noraid to register as "an agent of a foreign organization".

Just because we tended not to hear it doesn't mean it wasn't happening.
 

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