Is this the future of daoc?

Lorimez Shadowblade

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Hi.

Normally I play me merc, thuerg or infi and tend to have fun. Don't run in zergs, dont whine when I'm zerged. Not overly pissed off at stealth zergs. Kinda except the game can be played in many forms and my one point of view isn't right nor wrong. If I don't like one of the above, I go else where.

However tonight I played my scout for an hour and a few things surprised me. Made me realise that is daoc changing for the worse? I've played since beta and find that the game has far more 'personalities' shall we say. Anyhows . . .

1. I unstealth a hunter, slam him and begin to RF him. A theurg joins in (not bothered tbh) and I get killing blow. Thuerg shouts at me 'fuc***g zerging scout'. Needless to say I was quite taken aback by that.

2. With another scout and have a scrap with 2 ns. They kill one of us and I kill one of them. Now the RR5 ns starts to chew through me. A ministrel watches for 10s and seeing me on 3% and ns on 25%, waits for ns to kill me then kills ns for max rp's. Are albs now to frightened to help a losing alb?

Seems to me that people are becoming rp horny and more interested in individual gain over a realms. I know some people wont 'add' on a fight but where do you draw a line? Do you let to stealthers go at, or 2 casters and kill the winner? Or do you assist to save your realm?

So what do people think? Its a fine line between wanting solo one on ones and zerging. I understand that but has it gone to far? At which point, if any, do you help realmies?

Opinions gratefully apprecited.

Cya out there!

/bow
 

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I will quote someone from alliance

Daoc of old is dead. Its now just rp hungry kids now(or something along those lines)

Sad but true :(
 

stupeh

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even numbers i normally leave fights, unfair i'll help the outnumbered, even if its a mid/alb :x

Lorimez said:
1. I unstealth a hunter, slam him and begin to RF him. A theurg joins in (not bothered tbh) and I get killing blow. Thuerg shouts at me 'fuc***g zerging scout'. Needless to say I was quite taken aback by that.

I saw that.... first off it was a nightshade. Secondly, there were two other scouts pumping arrows into it at the same time.. but i suppose you didn't mind those either? Also, the theurg didn't nuke at all... See what you want to see i suppose.
 

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ur in a unlucky position u rolled a scout..... Who doesn't euhm .. dislike em... :cheers:
 

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Phooka said:
ur in a unlucky position u rolled a scout..... Who doesn't euhm .. dislike em... :cheers:

Scouts > bainshees in my opinion
 

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Lorimez Shadowblade said:
1. I unstealth a hunter, slam him and begin to RF him. A theurg joins in (not bothered tbh) and I get killing blow. Thuerg shouts at me 'fuc***g zerging scout'. Needless to say I was quite taken aback by that.

The theurg did not 'join in.' He watched 3 of you impale Sethan, and then told you his feeling on the matter. Thanks, goodnight.
 

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Lorimez Shadowblade said:
Hi.

Normally I play me merc, thuerg or infi and tend to have fun. Don't run in zergs, dont whine when I'm zerged. Not overly pissed off at stealth zergs. Kinda except the game can be played in many forms and my one point of view isn't right nor wrong. If I don't like one of the above, I go else where.

However tonight I played my scout for an hour and a few things surprised me. Made me realise that is daoc changing for the worse? I've played since beta and find that the game has far more 'personalities' shall we say. Anyhows . . .

1. I unstealth a hunter, slam him and begin to RF him. A theurg joins in (not bothered tbh) and I get killing blow. Thuerg shouts at me 'fuc***g zerging scout'. Needless to say I was quite taken aback by that.

2. With another scout and have a scrap with 2 ns. They kill one of us and I kill one of them. Now the RR5 ns starts to chew through me. A ministrel watches for 10s and seeing me on 3% and ns on 25%, waits for ns to kill me then kills ns for max rp's. Are albs now to frightened to help a losing alb?

Seems to me that people are becoming rp horny and more interested in individual gain over a realms. I know some people wont 'add' on a fight but where do you draw a line? Do you let to stealthers go at, or 2 casters and kill the winner? Or do you assist to save your realm?

So what do people think? Its a fine line between wanting solo one on ones and zerging. I understand that but has it gone to far? At which point, if any, do you help realmies?

Opinions gratefully apprecited.

Cya out there!

/bow
Get over it mate your right... Tho on what you say but play game for you not for no 1 else p :) you could be nicest person playing but you will allways at some point get adds in 1v1 :( i tend to no peeps due to years of pratice and add if the race they fighting will die cause of there race+realm ranks if they are higher :eek7: i do try to be fair but dosen't allways work.
 
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It's the curse of playing a scout i tell you, far too much effort :p
 

Leel

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If I was that mincer I would do the same tbh. And I have done it on occasions. Yes it gives me rp's, but it also lets them finish their lil 1on1. And I don't mind it happening when I'm having a 1on1 that I'm losing either.

Anyways, WHINE on bigchief and aoln, I attacked aoln, and see bigchief circling around, and of course he has to add in and pa me for 1200+!
Well, I logged on eld instead and leeched my ass off on them as payback.
Just not fun playing shade when they can't even let me try to have a 1on1, yes they were grouped of course, but still. I prolly couldn't have taken aoln anyway, but at least I don't mind to die trying.

Oh yeah, and I got ml 9 tonight, so I guess you're gonna have to blow some purge if you absolutely must add.
 

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Leel said:
Anyways, WHINE on bigchief and aoln, I attacked aoln, and see bigchief circling around, and of course he has to add in and pa me for 1200+!

There in the same guild, they were probably duoing

Stealther duos are ok, its when 3 or more stealthers get togather it gets a little crappy
 

Manisch Depressiv

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Think it is like with every game, you have good nights and bad nights playing.

No matter how you play some people will always dislike it, best is to ignore them Lori.
 

Darkptang

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i alway´s add, not alway´s but mostely 50% of the times cof cof :twak: , dont give a piii lol i pay my sub´s i see a fight that´s not 1vs1 :sex: plim plim bang trum pum kill or get killed lol :m00:
 

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hmmm... albs are teh problem me thinks...

iv played my chars (most NS) and i have never.... ever... heard someone saying "u focking zerger" (except luon ofc) xD . if someone would call me that from my own realm i would be really focking mad for sure.

when im fighting someone and are close to loose i always get help if a realmy is near, and if he was "slow" like that mincer i always get a "sorry, i made a misstake" or something like that.

Im doing the same thing ofc. if its not a person i know (who maby wanna win and loose.)

if that person saying dont add after, ill simply remember that and just watch...

common matters imo...

join HIB, not so many childs in shining uber arthur plate xD
 

Eden

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Manisch Depressiv said:
You playing GW now too Eden?

hehe yeah :) got a lvl 14 Warrior/Monk .. just messing around with some friends there, i must say it is a really nice game, got uber pve (click and hit style).
And the gfx is absolutley stunning, gonna be hard to get back to daoc gfx.

have only tried PvP for a few hours and it would also rockz if u playing with friends.

DAOC is a better game imo, but im just way to bored at it atm.

[Edit] pose-action from yesterday xD (bad qual on pic, looks 3x better when playing fyi)

GW3.JPG
 

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Got a level 11 Mesmer/Monk, I like it, was from lvl 5-10 only in the Ascalon Arena. You log in and have 4 vs 4 all day long. Kinda liked it.
 

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Lorimez Shadowblade said:
Hi.

Normally I play me merc, thuerg or infi and tend to have fun. Don't run in zergs, dont whine when I'm zerged. Not overly pissed off at stealth zergs. Kinda except the game can be played in many forms and my one point of view isn't right nor wrong. If I don't like one of the above, I go else where.

However tonight I played my scout for an hour and a few things surprised me. Made me realise that is daoc changing for the worse? I've played since beta and find that the game has far more 'personalities' shall we say. Anyhows . . .

1. I unstealth a hunter, slam him and begin to RF him. A theurg joins in (not bothered tbh) and I get killing blow. Thuerg shouts at me 'fuc***g zerging scout'. Needless to say I was quite taken aback by that.

2. With another scout and have a scrap with 2 ns. They kill one of us and I kill one of them. Now the RR5 ns starts to chew through me. A ministrel watches for 10s and seeing me on 3% and ns on 25%, waits for ns to kill me then kills ns for max rp's. Are albs now to frightened to help a losing alb?

Seems to me that people are becoming rp horny and more interested in individual gain over a realms. I know some people wont 'add' on a fight but where do you draw a line? Do you let to stealthers go at, or 2 casters and kill the winner? Or do you assist to save your realm?

So what do people think? Its a fine line between wanting solo one on ones and zerging. I understand that but has it gone to far? At which point, if any, do you help realmies?

Opinions gratefully apprecited.

Cya out there!

/bow

People tend to hate adding leechers. Plain and simple. That mincer did the right thing imho. If it is a fair fight, I dont add*, I rather let my realmmate die and if the enemy is someone I dont like much I kill him after he won, if its someone I feel is an honourable nice player, I leave him be, even if it means the loss of 1k RPs or so. Tend to depend alil on my mood too but generally I dont let the thought of RPs affect my playing much when I play my NS. I rather be remembered as a nice guy instead of beeing higher RR :p

* I add if its some asshat though, zerglings, many duoers, general assholes tend to get a PA in the face from me, even if they already are fighting someone.

Its pretty simple :)
 

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Shike said:
People tend to hate adding leechers. Plain and simple. That mincer did the right thing imho. If it is a fair fight, I dont add*, I rather let my realmmate die and if the enemy is someone I dont like much I kill him after he won, if its someone I feel is an honourable nice player, I leave him be, even if it means the loss of 1k RPs or so. Tend to depend alil on my mood too but generally I dont let the thought of RPs affect my playing much when I play my NS. I rather be remembered as a nice guy instead of beeing higher RR :p

* I add if its some asshat though, zerglings, many duoers, general assholes tend to get a PA in the face from me, even if they already are fighting someone.

Its pretty simple :)

pretty much what i was about to post.

also Lorimez, if youre not observant enough to see the other two scouts piling arrows into your target, and not observant enough to notice that the theurg isnt adding.. well. i wouldnt trust your views on the future of DAOC to be anything but equally shortsighted.

With any luck, the future of DAOC is more of those minstrel/theurg type people. and less of the adding scout type people.
 

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Jjuraa said:
pretty much what i was about to post.

also Lorimez, if youre not observant enough to see the other two scouts piling arrows into your target, and not observant enough to notice that the theurg isnt adding.. well. i wouldnt trust your views on the future of DAOC to be anything but equally shortsighted.

With any luck, the future of DAOC is more of those minstrel/theurg type people. and less of the adding scout type people.

Or the alternative point of view could be a game that works for the realm, helps realm mates, covers its own. Not a self serving RP whoaring out for itself type of player ???? ring any bells ?

just maybe .....
 

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BigE said:
Or the alternative point of view could be a game that works for the realm, helps realm mates, covers its own. Not a self serving RP whoaring out for itself type of player ???? ring any bells ?

just maybe .....

Calling me self serving, when i deliberately limit my realm points by not adding on fights..

It must be so hard to be you, constantly helping the realm by hoovering up all the enemies with the zerg... but dont let me make you feel bad: youve got the best interests of the realm at heart. and im a RP whoar(sic).

Do you want to take another look at which one of us is the one whoreing rps?
 
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Lorimez Shadowblade said:
2. With another scout and have a scrap with 2 ns. They kill one of us and I kill one of them. Now the RR5 ns starts to chew through me. A ministrel watches for 10s and seeing me on 3% and ns on 25%, waits for ns to kill me then kills ns for max rp's. Are albs now to frightened to help a losing alb?

tbh i think _some_ albs wont add on fights. they wait till you've finished yours then finish them off so you dont complain about adding ;)
 

Lorimez Shadowblade

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Jjuraa said:
pretty much what i was about to post.

also Lorimez, if youre not observant enough to see the other two scouts piling arrows into your target, and not observant enough to notice that the theurg isnt adding.. well. i wouldnt trust your views on the future of DAOC to be anything but equally shortsighted.

With any luck, the future of DAOC is more of those minstrel/theurg type people. and less of the adding scout type people.

Thanks for your constructive bullshit Jjurra. Don't tarnish us all with the same brush.

My mistake on theurg and no I didn't see the other arrows, in the midst of me remembering where my styles where on my qbar.

My apologises on theurg adding, my mistake but again it was in a blur.

However, it still doesn't excuse the abuse imo. And people like you seem to think its ok to be abusive and except its part of the game. Well I don't.

And no I'm not short sighted fyi. I'm able to admit my mistakes and to also to appreciate peoples points of view.

Imo maybe you need to read your own words. Far too much anger imo.

/bow
 

Lorimez Shadowblade

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Thanks btw to those who have made good posts. i.e. not made it personal or whiny.

Guess it'll always be how you see the game. . . fun vs rp horny love me love me style

Glad some people still keep up the spirit of the game. I salute you :cheers:

/bow
 

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Me thinks it's, sadly, past, present and grim dark future of Daoc.
Comes cluster = Heil The Zerg (tm) :/
 

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Lorimez Shadowblade said:
And no I'm not short sighted fyi. I'm able to admit my mistakes and to also to appreciate peoples points of view.

Imo maybe you need to read your own words. Far too much anger imo.

Possibly its hard to judge mood/tone on forums etc, but their was no anger in my words. I do have my own views certainly, and i gladly share them with you. However you choose to look at it is up to you, i dont pretend my word is gospel, its my opinion.

I personally beleive that someone who cant drink in details in RvR combat, who stays too focused on whatever they're hitting, is someone who doesnt look at the big picture, and thus isnt a reliable source when it comes to making comments about the entire future of MMORPGs. Argue against that if you will, but dont go off on random tangents about "anger issues" etc.
 

Lorimez Shadowblade

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Gahn said:
Me thinks it's, sadly, past, present and grim dark future of Daoc.
Comes cluster = Heil The Zerg (tm) :/

Fair point Gahn. I can handle zergs but don't enjoy the bullshit attitude of people who think it's ok to be abusive. It's after all a realm .vs realm out there. Think some people want it to be there own rp playground.

/bow
 

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