is Maelstrom killing the Agramon nights?

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Alexandrinus

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are they killing the new groups wich roams there, so they will quit and go back zerging?
Will Agramon revival be soon dead,because again nobody will go there?
 

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Alexandrinus said:
are they killing the new groups wich roams there, so they will quit and go back zerging?
Will Agramon revival be soon dead,because again nobody will go there?
4real?
 

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Alexandrinus said:
are they killing the new groups wich roams there, so they will quit and go back zerging?
Will Agramon revival be soon dead,because again nobody will go there?


lol.....
what do you expect them to do?
sit down and get killed by the lowbie groups so they dont whine and come back next day aswell?
go zerg themself so the lowbie groups have agramon for themself?

seriously this is the most stupid thread i´ve seen in a long time....
 

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I can see the problem. Playing against better groups is a good way to improve, but if the gap is too big (due to setup, classes, RRs, or experience/skill) it will be pretty discouraging. You need to win now and again in order to have fun in the long run.

I remember our RR3 group coming up against PE time and time again in the old Frontiers and not having a single chance against them. That was not fun, but luckily there were other groups to fight where we had a bigger shot of winning. Of course, it was that much more rewarding when we started to put up a decent fight and even win on occasion.

At the current state of RvR, it looks to me that Random Roleplayers should stand a good chance against Maelstrom. Greed is another good Hib group. Septina himself says that NFD1 puts up good resistance. I am sure there are others capable of the same thing. Even if the Maelstrom/Groove groups have some experienced and high-RR players, it seems as if the group is more or less a super-PUG consisting of whatever people they can scrape together in an evening.
 

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Belomar said:
I can see the problem. Playing against better groups is a good way to improve, but if the gap is too big (due to setup, classes, RRs, or experience/skill) it will be pretty discouraging. You need to win now and again in order to have fun in the long run.

I remember our RR3 group coming up against PE time and time again in the old Frontiers and not having a single chance against them. That was not fun, but luckily there were other groups to fight where we had a bigger shot of winning. Of course, it was that much more rewarding when we started to put up a decent fight and even win on occasion.

At the current state of RvR, it looks to me that Random Roleplayers should stand a good chance against Maelstrom. Greed is another good Hib group. Septina himself says that NFD1 puts up good resistance. I am sure there are others capable of the same thing. Even if the Maelstrom/Groove groups have some experienced and high-RR players, it seems as if the group is more or less a super-PUG consisting of whatever people they can scrape together in an evening.
agree :worthy:
 

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mate thats not a joke treat, when i look at the last week is bet agramon will be cleared in 2 more weeks again if Mael is running there 1/2week.
 

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Belomar said:
I can see the problem. Playing against better groups is a good way to improve, but if the gap is too big (due to setup, classes, RRs, or experience/skill) it will be pretty discouraging. You need to win now and again in order to have fun in the long run.

Agree also tbh, if the RR gap is to big I can understand people will get tired of getting killed over and over.

Even experienced groups playing all to low RR's won't win against one with more or less top RR's.

I wouldent mind aslong as I could get good fights between, but if you keep facing a group like that over and over, you will get fed up.

have met people myself I know is usually better/more experienced, but as they where much lower RR they dident stand a chance neways.
 

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I personally don't really fancy the rr11 groups, tho it's nice to fight them when in a proper group myself. It turns anoying, however, that if you get close to beating them, regardless of their realm rank and experience advantages, they tend to just strafe away or, in case you did win the fight, just blame someone for adding or for catching them off guard, or whatever else they might think of. I'm not saying they play this way at the moment, as I haven't fought in ages, but that's the way they used to be ;x
 

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sorry Alex I totally disagree with you it is good to see them out and even if they can chain prwn us I don't care.

Agramon > than crappy iRvR any day and watching how they play their movement etc is good to see. I just hope we can eventually give them a great fight.

Obviously you can decide if you think your running in that league - the secret is to remember your not. They play how many nights a week together? We for example play 2 so it is not really likely that we will be able to run against them significantly. If we can put up a good fight then fair enough.

What is much more important is rather than painting a picture of DOOM and gloom that we encourage others to come out. The more groups there the less any of us have to fight Mael and Mael can still remain an essential part of the whole thing. More groups from Mid and Alb = better for everyone.

A good Mael ganking is an essential part of anyone's FG experience. :)
 

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Not to forget that being rolled by a high-RR group gives you a perfectly good excuse! I tell you, it'd be worse if an RR3-RR4 group kept walking all over your guild group. :cool:
 

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Alexandrinus BM 7L1 retired

The funny ^^
Write a petition to GoA why dont you and tell them theres this group thats too high rr rvring and ask if they can gently escort us off the server. :(
 

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Severance out on wednessday, Trying a few runs i think.. Gonna be a pug though by looks of it ;p
 

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Septina, Alex plays his VW in NFD2. I think it is just his BM that is retired.
 

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Belomar said:
Not to forget that being rolled by a high-RR group gives you a perfectly good excuse! I tell you, it'd be worse if an RR3-RR4 group kept walking all over your guild group. :cool:

rofl aye those are the worst incidents. The sound of the tumbleweed flying past on vent is amazing... :)
 

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It a problem but don't see there's really an answer for it...cept to encourage more grps to go out, so there's plenty of non-high rr fights.
 

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Just give more grps to fight. Its fun how people insist to run 3-4 casters, then whine at us for running 2 bd´s almost demanding that we change setup, because their castergrps dont work vs 2 bd´s. How about changing setups yourselves?!
 

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Septina said:
Alexandrinus BM 7L1 retired

The funny ^^
Write a petition to GoA why dont you and tell them theres this group thats too high rr rvring and ask if they can gently escort us off the server. :(

I myself don't care, and like the challenge even if we will loose, but I do understand people getting fed up, if they do face a much higher group over and over, because it wont matter if you'r really good if the RR's diff between the group fighting is to large.

And well, if you loose all to much, anyone gets fed up really, and if you will face that much higher RR group over and over, I think most would stop running, because you know why you are loosing neways.
 

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Maeloch said:
It a problem but don't see there's really an answer for it...cept to encourage more grps to go out, so there's plenty of non-high rr fights.

True, it's okay aslong as you get fights between with somewhat equally high RR groups, or atleast close.

can be okay facing a much higher one, but not over and over, if you keep loosing.
 

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... and this is why you have to laugh at the leet rvr groups.

Low rr groups will die 99% of the time to high rr groups but omg just try banding together with another low-level rr group and maybe win against one. Then stand-back and watch FH fill with a river of abuse at omg how unfair it is to zeurg and how balanced 1fg vs 1fg is etc, etc.

hehe you guys make me laugh :england:


Belg x
 

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Septina said:
Alexandrinus BM 7L1 retired

The funny ^^
Write a petition to GoA why dont you and tell them theres this group thats too high rr rvring and ask if they can gently escort us off the server. :(
omg yes only my BM is retired....and i play on replacement in NFD 2

and there is still my question in the air doya think you will kill the Agramon nights or not tell me plllssss.

In 2-3 weeks we will see it?Because 3-4 groups are not enought to run it:(
 

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I say let the gimps come, one day when we get a full CT gg going they will be crushed ;D
Or atleast a more regular one :< not out all to much right now.
 

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Alexandrinus said:
omg yes only my BM is retired....and i play on replacement in NFD 2

and there is still my question in the air doya think you will kill the Agramon nights or not tell me plllssss.

In 2-3 weeks we will see it?Because 3-4 groups are not enought to run it:(

Cant see what we should do about it?
Stop playing our characters in a game we pay to play just cause some people cant get a set group together?
Get a group of 8 core people together, play with eachother, build up the teamwork and i'm sure anyone could put up a good fight vs anything.
 

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Alexandrinus said:
omg yes only my BM is retired....and i play on replacement in NFD 2

and there is still my question in the air doya think you will kill the Agramon nights or not tell me plllssss.

In 2-3 weeks we will see it?Because 3-4 groups are not enought to run it:(

Wont have any damagedealer in 2 weeks, I am going to Egypt for a month then, so dont worry. ;)
 

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find a way to counter bd's then :eek:

it will if people dont change setup, but then its not really maels fault, its the grps they fight for being retarded :(
 
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