Is Alb gimped and Hib overpowered?(some facts)

[amphetamine]

OK qte can you please tell me how again hib arent overpowered, you have by far the best tank in the game, i have 26% crush resist yet cuth still hits me for well over 500 damage per hit with shield buffs and chain epic armor, also can you tell me how Gobarnachta can stun me and within this 5-6 seconds u call it cast 3pbaoe and kill me hitting me 3 times for 590hp, and please dont comment on resist are my resists are very good.

Its fact that hibby is overpowered compared to alb, how comes 95% of US servers Hibby is doing ALOT better than alb, is it because they have better players on every server???? nope it cause your classes are far superier to albs, how comes servers with 45% of the server being albs get ALOT less rp's than hib...is that bad play or does that show you that your realm is overpowered.

and please dont come here telling us how every groups has 4-5 clerics and all they do is smite and that the cleric stun is as good as the stun on a pure nuker who can do 590 damage in 2-3 seconds.

You embarrass yourself everytime you post pro-hibby rubbish, its known fact albion is weaker than the other realms, hence whi so my infs are about, with an inf you dont have to suffer the silly 1500 stun from hibs and are free to at least enjoy rvr.

 

[Noche]

590 = pb. If u allow pber going that close to u, u deserve to die, if u reply soloing then u deserve to die.

Ask hibbies about going out solo/in small grp when Alpha can easily gank 2-3 lvl 50s or 4-5 blue cons.

 

[old.Nol]

how comes servers with 45% of the server being albs get ALOT less rp's than hib

If you think logically it indicates that your have less rp's to share among more people, hence less overall rp's.

 

[amphetamine]

Originally posted by Noche
590 = pb. If u allow pber going that close to u, u deserve to die, if u reply soloing then u deserve to die.

Ask hibbies about going out solo/in small grp when Alpha can easily gank 2-3 lvl 50s or 4-5 blue cons.

i wasnt soloing, i was a few yards from my group, stun + pbaoe+pbaoe+pbaoe is yet another example of how overpowered the hibby stun is, you hibs can claim innocence all you like but you end of the day there is no other single class that can do that, every other class needs another person to deliver that kinda damage, except hibs.

I love the way the hibs claim they arent superior in terms of classes

 

[Novamir]

Originally posted by old.Nol
oooooooo the paradox of the last post...it's a quandry

lol

 

[amphetamine]

Originally posted by old.Nol


If you think logically it indicates that your have less rp's to share among more people, hence less overall rp's.

no im not talking average, overwise you would have a valid post im talking about overall rp's gained that week, its been shown on IGn since 1.51 that the hibs have continually gained more rp's on nearly all servers per week than albs.

 

[amphetamine]

Originally posted by amphetamine


no im not talking average, overwise you would have a valid post im talking about overall rp's gained that week, its been shown on IGn since 1.51 that the hibs have continually gained more rp's on nearly all servers per week than albs, as in more albs have 1000rp's hibs have 2000 for the week(making it simple for you as i know your a very pro hibby who thinks alb are overpowered

 

[amphetamine]

Originally posted by old.Nol


If you think logically it indicates that your have less rp's to share among more people, hence less overall rp's.

http://www.camelot-seer.com/handler.cfm?app=realms&method=rp50

ok there are some numbers from last week showing hibs gaining more average and total rp's than alb.

Nol/qte if you wanna back up your laughable posts which i do see most people including mids here laughing at give us numbers and facts from www.camelotseer.com backing your (laughable) opinions.

 

[old.Wildfire]

oooooooo the paradox of the last post...it's a quandry

point taken, but fgs let this post die, this is topped as im posting this so im not making any difference

 

[Noche]

Ppl got owned, ppl whine

Oh yes I got owned by Alpha, by <insert random infi´s name> who uses Dragon Fang and Lifebane with rr2-3, owned by <scout name> slamed and 2 shoot. Ohhh albs r ubah!

Wtf compare Gobar with Alpha if u wish, got owned by some doesn´t mean that a realm´s superior than another. So heros r better every 30 min vs armsmen, big deal. 4 some reason they call hib magic realm, and mid zerker´s unbeatable meleeing (poor of their warrior). Albs got best rogues, learn to use tools in ur hand instead of crying. A smart sorc can outmez a bard ANYDAY of the week be4 1.51 due to use of quickcast.

Learn to play ur class and stop whining, only true weak class´s hunter IMO. And I´ve seen far more alb n00b than mid n00b, maybe albs should learn to play a bit better? Look how mids r owning atm, ppl forget em completly?

Btw wot class r u Amphetamine?

 

[amphetamine]

Originally posted by Noche
Ppl got owned, ppl whine

Oh yes I got owned by Alpha, by <insert random infi´s name> who uses Dragon Fang and Lifebane with rr2-3, owned by <scout name> slamed and 2 shoot. Ohhh albs r ubah!

Wtf compare Gobar with Alpha if u wish, got owned by some doesn´t mean that a realm´s superior than another. So heros r better every 30 min vs armsmen, big deal. 4 some reason they call hib magic realm, and mid zerker´s unbeatable meleeing (poor of their warrior). Albs got best rogues, learn to use tools in ur hand instead of crying. A smart sorc can outmez a bard ANYDAY of the week be4 1.51 due to use of quickcast.

Learn to play ur class and stop whining, only true weak class´s hunter IMO. And I´ve seen far more alb n00b than mid n00b, maybe albs should learn to play a bit better? Look how mids r owning atm, ppl forget em completly?

Btw wot class r u Amphetamine?

a druid can then use group purge and make sure this sorc is killed...

please if you want to justify your realms equality post numbers and facts now simple assumptions, as for naming other people you dont know if there buffed to the teeth or not, this isnt a very accurate example.

Post numbers and figures from camelotseer or other figures from camelots offical site.

Dont give us the usualy hibby bullshit.

 

[Novamir]

Originally posted by amphetamine


a druid can then use group purge and make sure this sorc is killed...

and then you say

please if you want to justify your realms equality post numbers and facts now simple assumptions, as for naming other people you dont know if there buffed to the teeth or not, this isnt a very accurate example.

can't you see what hypocritical bullshit that is?

almost anything 'can' happen. ever thought that the group doesn't have a druid? (common) or that the timer of 30mins is really high and GP won't be available? (also common).

speed of sound is an overpowered RA also. and every fricken group has a minstrel.

 

[amphetamine]

sir novamir as i stated please post factual figures instead of your views, i have seen your pro hib posts which are a joke, "we are the magic real we deserve stun blah blah and the best magical ability on out tank etc etc"

post figures please.

If you dont agree alb is underpowered show us with figures not your views as from reading this post yours and qte's voices dont stand for much.

 

[amphetamine]

Originally posted by Novamir



and every fricken group has a minstrel.

and yet again you show your lack of knowledge.

 

[old.Nol]

http://www.camelot-seer.com/handler...lms&method=rp50

ok there are some numbers from last week showing hibs gaining more average and total rp's than alb.

Nol/qte if you wanna back up your laughable posts which i do see most people including mids here laughing at give us numbers and facts from www.camelotseer.com backing your (laughable) opinions.

Maybe you need to read my post in context to the quoted line. 99% of my posts are laughable and are intended to be laughable.

and yet again you show your lack of knowledge.

The link reflect every server worldwide, or just excal? If you need to know why I am asking - Bard instant is already implemented on US servers.

I take it you are ASSUMING that every hib group does contain a druid, and that every druid has purchased Group Purge

a druid can then use group purge and make sure this sorc is killed...

please if you want to justify your realms equality post numbers and facts now simple assumptions, as for naming other people you dont know if there buffed to the teeth or not, this isnt a very accurate example.

Post numbers and figures from camelotseer or other figures from camelots offical site.

Dont give us the usualy hibby bullshit.

...which in turn brings us to this post.

post numbers and facts now simple assumptions

With regards to Purge, in case you haven't figured it out, purge is bugged. I know for a fact that almost every sorcerer I meet in emain does know that it is bugged, otherwise they would not spam mezzes(yes bards and healers spamm mezzes for exactly the same reason).

The key word here I think is "assumption".

kthnxbye

 

[amphetamine]

http://www.camelot-seer.com/handler.cfm?app=realms&method=pop5

here is a link show the population for all servers including US+Europe ones. As you can see albion has a significant population advantage.

yet then you click the realms rp (all) button and get this

http://www.camelot-seer.com/handler.cfm?app=realms&method=rp5

so tell me again how this is happening is it cause every alb didnt purchase purge. All i ask is for facts based on your arguments, please feel free to use www.camelotseer.com as a basis for factual information.

 

[Novamir]

amphetamine, please explain to me what sensible level 50 alb would RvR without speed 5?

my opinion is balanced, but facts are facts. in my posts i talk about facts and my opinion also. please quote some bullshit that you feel I have posted and I'll explain it to you.

but in answer to the original question- "Is Alb gimped and Hib overpowered?(some facts)" - no.

hope that helps.

 

[amphetamine]

as stated novamir show me the facts that alb isnt gimped i have gave you serveral links showing that hibs are winning on every front on all servers includig US+Europe yet you dont seem to back you word up, all i ask for is written proof, it is easily obtained from www.camelotseer.com you can get pretty much al your information there, please feel free to use it.

regards Amphetamine

 

[Qte Eth]

K with some numbers this time-
u have 81 minst level 46-50 so plz tell me why not every fricken grp has got minst in it?give reasoble answer pls not some bullshit this time
now-how number influence rps
population 50-
http://www.camelot-seer.com/handler.cfm?app=classes&method=pop50
rp 50-
http://www.camelot-seer.com/handler.cfm?app=classes&method=rp50
if u can read it wisely -the more 50 levels class contains the less rp he has in general
take a look on ments for example-they are first after all stealth classes and are in last rows of population chart

u albs have uber population thats why u have lack of rps per char

also http://www.nolbypride.com/daoc/herald/Excalibur/herald.html
take a look on down page- atm it shows

Albion: Total RP: 146,178,281 (35%) -- Past 7 days: 9,510,659
Hibernia: Total RP: 122,630,708 (29%) -- Past 7 days: 8,703,204
Midgard: Total RP: 147,946,021 (35%) -- Past 7 days: 9,141,874

and albion has 523 50 level chars
hibernia has 353 50 level chars
make divide 9.5 mil/523 , 8.7mil/353 and ull see that per 50 level we got more rps than u -same picture is going on every week while all realms get almost equal rps amount

hope that helps-some good answers now pls
and also tell meh why all rvr is going in emain and not in odins/hadrians

omg have noticed bm has 10th!!! place of rps per 50 level char and has 30th place of 50 level population- he is one of most gimped hib classes so explain me how that comes?

hope that facts help to understand that having many ppl dont affect ur rps per char in any good way..

 

[Novamir]

Originally posted by amphetamine
as stated novamir show me the facts that alb isnt gimped i have gave you serveral links showing that hibs are winning on every front on all servers includig US+Europe yet you dont seem to back you word up, all i ask for is written proof, it is easily obtained from www.camelotseer.com you can get pretty much al your information there, please feel free to use it.

regards Amphetamine

so hibs have a higher RP share on some servers, and more relics. this shows that:

- hib has more skilled players playing
- albs don't rvr as much
- albs have a higher population on each server, therefore less RPs available to them
- albs are stupid
- albs don't play their primary CC class at high levels
- hib groups have bards

THIS DOESNT MEAN THAT ALB IS GIMPED, YOU STUPID FUCK

if you had more high level sorcs, or if your high level sorcs actually came to emain then you would rock. alb has very nice classes which can work in a team with nps. i think it shows that the albs who don't know how to rvr post here with whines, but the high RP albs clearly have realised.

ill put it a bit simpler for you:

ITS NOT OUR FAULT YOU DONT MAKE GOOD RVR GROUPS (if i was in alb id make good rvr groups eg. First Cohort)

thx

 

[amphetamine]

Originally posted by Novamir


so hibs have a higher RP share on some servers, and more relics. this shows that:

- hib has more skilled players playing
- albs don't rvr as much
- albs have a higher population on each server, therefore less RPs available to them
- albs are stupid
- albs don't play their primary CC class at high levels
- hib groups have bards

THIS DOESNT MEAN THAT ALB IS GIMPED, YOU STUPID FUCK

if you had more high level sorcs, or if your high level sorcs actually came to emain then you would rock. alb has very nice classes which can work in a team with nps. i think it shows that the albs who don't know how to rvr post here with whines, but the high RP albs clearly have realised.

ill put it a bit simpler for you:

ITS NOT OUR FAULT YOU DONT MAKE GOOD RVR GROUPS (if i was in alb id make good rvr groups eg. First Cohort)

thx

yes you put a great argument there with references andd all i salute you and your talent of talking shit on these boards.

i guess all them servers that alb is by far the worst realm for rp even though it has a higher population which means hibs with a smaller population are still thrashing albs in terms of rp must all be dumb. yes sir novamir i can see your point well put across.

/salute

 

[Novamir]

touché

give me facts that im talking shit please, not just your (invalid) opinion.

 

[amphetamine]

i have done follow them links i posted, even though alb has a higher population on nearly every single server it is still the lowest rp gaining realm, i hope i dont have to explain more to you its late

but please as stated before and you are yet to do so, if you disagree with the fact alb is gimped please show us facts

 

[Novamir]

Originally posted by amphetamine

i guess all them servers that alb is by far the worst realm for rp even though it has a higher population which means hibs with a smaller population are still thrashing albs in terms of rp must all be dumb.

what level char do you have? have you ever actually been to emain?

if there are 30 (organised)hibs in emain, and 50 disorganised albs, then the hibs will get lots of RPs.

if there are 30 disorganised hibs in emain, and 50 organised albs, they still won't get that much RP because there is less RP available.

do you understand yet?

 

[Qte Eth]

albs dont understand
and i sugest we rename topic
are albs stupid and cant make good rvr groups and hibs are clever and make good groups(some facts)
and if someone disagrees with that pls give us some facts
(dont affects albs who can make good grps eg fc)

 

[amphetamine]

Originally posted by Novamir


what level char do you have? have you ever actually been to emain?

if there are 30 (organised)hibs in emain, and 50 disorganised albs, then the hibs will get lots of RPs.

if there are 30 disorganised hibs in emain, and 50 organised albs, they still won't get that much RP because there is less RP available.

do you understand yet?

but novamir were talking about albion been gimped in terms of classes not peoples playing of the game (which tbh takes little skill). I have continually said albion has gimped classes and posted references toward my evidence, can you counter that or will you continue to bombard this thread with your "i know all dont mess me me attitude"

 

[old.Nol]

Quoting an included USA figure is complete bullshit. USA is on a completely different patch, one that includes Hibernia insta-mezz I might add. That is a major loophole in you "quote from camelotseer" theory.

The rest of it qte has pretty much covered.

 

[amphetamine]

Originally posted by old.Nol
Quoting an included USA figure is complete bullshit. USA is on a completely different patch, one that includes Hibernia insta-mezz I might add. That is a major loophole in you "quote from camelotseer" theory.

The rest of it qte has pretty much covered.

isnt it funny how albs on almost every server europe and US cant make groups and cant rvr, guys what im asking for is evidence that your suggestions are right, all i have atm is 3 people known on these boards for talking the slight bit of rubbish *looks about* saying albion is fine, well i hate to mess with people of such superior intelligence as yourselves but would you mind pointing me to the evidence please, i must of missed it reading your fantasticly detailed posts

/regards

 

[old.Nol]

I have continually said albion has gimped classes and posted references toward my evidence, can you counter that

1) Eleasias Wayfarer (50th lvl Celt Ranger - Gilded Spear) [Vengeance] 2,883,135
2) Alpha Male (50th lvl Highlander Minstrel - Alerion Knight) [Herfølge Boldklub] 2,407,153
3) Veeshan (50th lvl Briton Sorceress - Alerion Knight) [Tempest] 2,119,729
4) Outlaw (50th lvl Avalonian Theurgist - Alerion Knight) [Guardians of Light] 1,830,378
5) Cuthervaen (50th lvl Celt Champion - Thunderer) [Celtic Fist] 1,778,478

http://www.nolbypride.com/daoc/herald.html

hmmmm very gimped...

 

[Novamir]

Originally posted by amphetamine


but novamir were talking about albion been gimped in terms of classes not peoples playing of the game (which tbh takes little skill). I have continually said albion has gimped classes and posted references toward my evidence, can you counter that or will you continue to bombard this thread with your "i know all dont mess me me attitude"

ok lets break this down. I'm a nice guy when i'm trying to help people, and I think you really have a problem with understanding here.

albion been gimped in terms of classes not peoples playing of the game (which tbh takes little skill)"

you have used facts of RP gain to backup your views. "classes" and "peoples playing of the game" are intrinsically linked when you talk about RP gain.

to get lots of RP (which you are suggesting means the best), you need:

1. Well balanced group with aoe mez capability, stun capability and high damage (+ maybe See Hidden). this means you need the right classes

2. "peoples playing of the game" as you put it, or as i would say skill (this also overlaps with 1.)

3. time available to play the game.

so, when you say,

I have continually said albion has gimped classes and posted references toward my evidence

the only evidence you have given that the CLASSES are gimped is relevant to RP TOTALS on servers. as I mentioned before, if you have MORE POPULATION on a server, then the OTHER REALMS in fact can end up with MORE RP AVAILABLE TO GET because they make better groups.

There is no direct relation between RP totals on servers and whether individual classes are gimped or not, because it's a team game. albs can make equally good RvR groups to hib in the current euro version. however they will be behind hib in the next version simply because they will be the only realm without instant mez. mid will still be ahead in theoretical CC power simply because of the healers.