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belth
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Ah cool, didn't know earth-wizzies get mez. Looking forward to it.
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old.Filip
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Qte plz make a comment on why you think the lvl 50 albs on all servers got around 80% of the rps than hib/mids got..
would be interesting to hear....
would be interesting to hear....
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Mavl
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Qte
Pls give me a reason why I should respond to your flames.
But:
Pls give me a reason why I should respond to your flames.
But:
Is Krom a higher lvl theurg? Or do you want a theurg to ask a spiritmaster on how do theu pets work?
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Qte Eth
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2blind Mavl
about poor sms -they will get uber pbaoe and with aoe stun it is way too uber combo and 80 sec mes in same line ,if u say they suck atm ask Krom hell say u they work fine
if u can read its begins with about poor SMS -i target this answer to eble pls try to open eyes before u whine
about poor sms -they will get uber pbaoe and with aoe stun it is way too uber combo and 80 sec mes in same line ,if u say they suck atm ask Krom hell say u they work fine
if u can read its begins with about poor SMS -i target this answer to eble pls try to open eyes before u whine
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old.Filip
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/em looks at Qte and points at his post above mavl's
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Mavl
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2smart Qte
I must have misread your post, sorry, oh great one.
And you better update your info, oh great one. Alb bolts were never energy.
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Qte Eth
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If u ask me pls make comment -i can try to guess
Well u are outnumbering other realms so if u have more ppl and they less they will get more rps to share to each other than when u share rps u get for them just math -my idea?
Also ur heal classes dont heal but smite /melee while our druids can only heal and dont do other things wicha re useless?and heal does good work in rvr
u dont have many sorcs around and u almost always break mes with some aoe and only thing that can allow u survive after that is that u have 2-3 x more ppl than enemy.And also when u always zerg ur skills arent improving so u have problems in fg vs fg fights.
Just few of my ideas why is it so -i do think ur numbers dont help u get more rps
Well u are outnumbering other realms so if u have more ppl and they less they will get more rps to share to each other than when u share rps u get for them just math -my idea?
Also ur heal classes dont heal but smite /melee while our druids can only heal and dont do other things wicha re useless?and heal does good work in rvr
u dont have many sorcs around and u almost always break mes with some aoe and only thing that can allow u survive after that is that u have 2-3 x more ppl than enemy.And also when u always zerg ur skills arent improving so u have problems in fg vs fg fights.
Just few of my ideas why is it so -i do think ur numbers dont help u get more rps
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Qte Eth
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2 VERY SMART MAVL
thats again adressed to eble and their rms bolts O_O
i do know albs have fire bolts
pls read 2 times and get some info so u can react correctly to my posts=)doubt any alb mage can think i am talking about wizard bolt in taht sentence xD
thats again adressed to eble and their rms bolts O_O
i do know albs have fire bolts
pls read 2 times and get some info so u can react correctly to my posts=)doubt any alb mage can think i am talking about wizard bolt in taht sentence xD
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Mavl
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Try looking up rp per individual, oh great one.
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cbh_branwolf
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Hmmm
There's one thing you all forget: all clerics get a baseline 9sec stun at lvl 46 as well. And earth wizzies don't get mez, they get ae root, ae dd snare, dot and gtaoe soon. No mez. And all wizzies get a baseline dd, something that I think no hib caster gets.
And cabbys has a spell line a bit like a dd, but with life leeching, called drain life. I admit it's not as powerful as a dd, but still!
Branwolf ShadowDancer of CBH
There's one thing you all forget: all clerics get a baseline 9sec stun at lvl 46 as well. And earth wizzies don't get mez, they get ae root, ae dd snare, dot and gtaoe soon. No mez. And all wizzies get a baseline dd, something that I think no hib caster gets.
And cabbys has a spell line a bit like a dd, but with life leeching, called drain life. I admit it's not as powerful as a dd, but still!
Branwolf ShadowDancer of CBH
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Mavl
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sigh... I can clearely read 2Mavl and since "ours" are wizzie, then... =\
Pls make paragraphs and add punctuation.
Anyway. I'm very sleepy atm, so it might just be my eyes....
Oh and another thing.... my theurg isn't gimped. He's about as best as theurg can get imho.
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Mavl
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To ad a little more fuel to flames
Pls look at "stun" area:
http://www.gatecentral.com/daoc/doc/realmbalance_l1.php
Looks sad, isn't it.
Pls look at "stun" area:
http://www.gatecentral.com/daoc/doc/realmbalance_l1.php
Looks sad, isn't it.
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old.Filip
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good guess... thing is as you point out your self that if the hibs outnumber the albs hibs would win.. hence they would get more RPS than albs..
but when albs outnumber hibs albs dont win (unless the sorcs are with em)..
this brings me to this
we do have heal clrs' .. in fact clrs should be the most played class.. but due to nerf's and other stuff a lot of clrs have stopped playing so quite often there is not even 1 clr in group....
last time i logged on there was quite a few sorc's ... so that migth have improved ..
about the breaking mezz with AOE ... it rarely happens in the groups i have been in ... my guess is that it happens just as much as the other realms breaks mezz..
tbh i think most hibs aint that brigth in 1 fg vs 1 fg ..
only groups i have seen playing good from hibs is the novamir/cuth/miss groups...
i have lost to group purge... AE mezz and stuff from hibs .. but that not skill ... thats just class's..
skill is a very small part of the normall rvr that it is very hard to notice from other stuff like class's and numbers
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TheDardre's
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Don't think BarrysWorld could store that much
LOL
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Novamir
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bahahaha ive been away for 2 weeks and karam is still obsessed with me.. now that's sad
but about the balance whine. the only thing i can think of is that albs are stupid.
clever mid groups bring healers to emain. clever hib groups bring bards to emain. the fact that there is very few sorcs in emain is amusing. even funnier is that every alb and his dog who has got level 50, or KNOWS that sorcs are neede for their groups to function in rvr does nothing about it. many of you lev 50 albs now have 40+ alts, and what are they? minstrels and infs.
CF sorted bards, recruited them for levelling, and had them in our groups. NP levelled healers and recruited them. albs still fail to level/recruit/encourage sorcs. stop whining and do something about it.
but about the balance whine. the only thing i can think of is that albs are stupid.
clever mid groups bring healers to emain. clever hib groups bring bards to emain. the fact that there is very few sorcs in emain is amusing. even funnier is that every alb and his dog who has got level 50, or KNOWS that sorcs are neede for their groups to function in rvr does nothing about it. many of you lev 50 albs now have 40+ alts, and what are they? minstrels and infs.
CF sorted bards, recruited them for levelling, and had them in our groups. NP levelled healers and recruited them. albs still fail to level/recruit/encourage sorcs. stop whining and do something about it.
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Rhuric
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Cleric basestun : range 1000
Hib casters basestun: range 1500
Dont even bother with mids and all there instas
(This is for those who didnt bother with looking thru that link)
Hib casters basestun: range 1500
Dont even bother with mids and all there instas
(This is for those who didnt bother with looking thru that link)
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old.Wildfire
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there are some intelligent posts on this thread (mine doesn't count among them) but nova's is just plain dense
"clever mid groups bring healers to emain. clever hib groups bring bards to emain. the fact that there is very few sorcs in emain is amusing"
If we had sorcs we would bring them. This is going to seem like a flame, but it seems all the high level sorcs on the server are spread around the "lesser" guilds that dont RvR much. I know FC would kill for more high level sorcs, and are always trying to recruit them, but hey, they just aint there.
Oh and FYI i made my cabby specifically for nearsight, but don't let's get started on that topic, if you want to argue about that too, start another thread.
"clever mid groups bring healers to emain. clever hib groups bring bards to emain. the fact that there is very few sorcs in emain is amusing"
If we had sorcs we would bring them. This is going to seem like a flame, but it seems all the high level sorcs on the server are spread around the "lesser" guilds that dont RvR much. I know FC would kill for more high level sorcs, and are always trying to recruit them, but hey, they just aint there.
Oh and FYI i made my cabby specifically for nearsight, but don't let's get started on that topic, if you want to argue about that too, start another thread.
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kinadold
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Fact 1 : The simpler a skill is the more usefull in RvR.
Fact 2 : Instas is pretty easy to use ( healers ).
Fact 3 : Its much easier to stun someone and then nuke, than
to root/mezz, move away and then start nuking.
Fact 4 : Seen hib nukers kill 10 highlv albs in less than 5 min. No other class in game can do that so easy.
Fact 5 : Albs have to live with this, but if your a hib/mid and think
realms are balanced with CC/stun then your a moron.
Fact 6 : Albs seem to have gotten more sorcs lately, because often i see them in emain.
Fact 2 : Instas is pretty easy to use ( healers ).
Fact 3 : Its much easier to stun someone and then nuke, than
to root/mezz, move away and then start nuking.
Fact 4 : Seen hib nukers kill 10 highlv albs in less than 5 min. No other class in game can do that so easy.
Fact 5 : Albs have to live with this, but if your a hib/mid and think
realms are balanced with CC/stun then your a moron.
Fact 6 : Albs seem to have gotten more sorcs lately, because often i see them in emain.
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I also made my cabbie just for nearsight, just about to ding lvl 35 as i type
We all know that hib casters should get root instead of stun. I should also add that theurg air mezz should be bought into line with elritch light mezz.
Also saying about PBAE being rare in hib. Try finding a alb ice wizard....
both the stun classes in albion have taken a HUGE WHACK with nerf bat (SH for minstrels, smite//pbae mezz for clerics) and thusly they are retiring.
loads of other things i could say, but its been said before
We all know that hib casters should get root instead of stun. I should also add that theurg air mezz should be bought into line with elritch light mezz.
Also saying about PBAE being rare in hib. Try finding a alb ice wizard....
both the stun classes in albion have taken a HUGE WHACK with nerf bat (SH for minstrels, smite//pbae mezz for clerics) and thusly they are retiring.
loads of other things i could say, but its been said before
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Novamir
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no it's not dense, maybe you don't understand wildfire?
- its not our fault alb guilds' sorcs dont come to emain
- its not our fault alb guilds didn't level sorcs when xping
- its not our fault alb guilds dont choose to powerlevel sorc alts
- its not our fault alb guilds dont recruit level 30+ sorcs and help them level
please stop whining about lack of aoe mez when you can do something about it.
- its not our fault alb guilds' sorcs dont come to emain
- its not our fault alb guilds didn't level sorcs when xping
- its not our fault alb guilds dont choose to powerlevel sorc alts
- its not our fault alb guilds dont recruit level 30+ sorcs and help them level
please stop whining about lack of aoe mez when you can do something about it.
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Quasimoto
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hohoho, albs have the biggest whine to player ratio by far lol
hell if you dont like alb... make a char in one of the other realms instead
hibernia is the *magic realm* would make sence that the casters where better... so if u cant accept that they arent STFU cause were in the *magic* realm....
lolhell if you dont like alb... make a char in one of the other realms instead
hibernia is the *magic realm* would make sence that the casters where better... so if u cant accept that they arent STFU cause were in the *magic* realm....
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we don't like an easy overpowered life, alot more challenging
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Qte Eth
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I used char search and found u have 29 sorcs level 50 and we have 28 bards level 50 so its not our fault they dont play
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old.Ebeneezer
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Originally posted by Quasimoto
hohoho, albs have the biggest whine to player ratio by far
hell if you dont like alb... make a char in one of the other realms instead
hibernia is the *magic realm* would make sence that the casters where better... so if u cant accept that they arent STFU cause were in the *magic* realm....
Nerf Heroes then - best tank class in the game is in "magic realm" - pah!
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lol... Qte, read what was in Ebeneezers post on the first page.. If that doesn't stick, I'm sorry.. Some people will get some surprises on PvP when they suddenly get this against themselves..
And Novamir, this wasn't about Mez availability, this was about a baseline stun on characters that doesn't need to worry about anything else than that stun and nuke. The cleric gets a 1000(!) range stun, but the Cleric also has got to take care of his group. Hib casters doesn't seem to lose any significant damage, or damage variance on that _BASELINE_ stun. I was QC stunned earlier, then 2xnuked for 528 damage each time, I wouldn't exactly call that weak damage even though it probably was capped. The point is the variance at those high damages.
Also the idea of a stun like that on a heavy damage dealer is insane.. No need to coordinate when to break mez with stun and start to nuke.. etc.. Each class is assigned spots and won't need overly much interaction between each other to do their thing...
Disclaimer: for the flammable person, this is only my opinion, you don't have to agree.
And Novamir, this wasn't about Mez availability, this was about a baseline stun on characters that doesn't need to worry about anything else than that stun and nuke. The cleric gets a 1000(!) range stun, but the Cleric also has got to take care of his group. Hib casters doesn't seem to lose any significant damage, or damage variance on that _BASELINE_ stun. I was QC stunned earlier, then 2xnuked for 528 damage each time, I wouldn't exactly call that weak damage even though it probably was capped. The point is the variance at those high damages.
Also the idea of a stun like that on a heavy damage dealer is insane.. No need to coordinate when to break mez with stun and start to nuke.. etc.. Each class is assigned spots and won't need overly much interaction between each other to do their thing...
Disclaimer: for the flammable person, this is only my opinion, you don't have to agree.
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Dark age of whine..
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old.Wildfire
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The only other thing I thought of to add to the stun argument was this:
In all fairness, the only person who knows an enemy char is stunned is the person who stunned them. Sure, you can have great co-ordination, but to be honest, if a shadowblade is slicing away at me and suddenly freezes, im going to get some distance between me and him. NOT stand next to him nuking, on the off-chance that he's stunned. I have a 2.4GHz rig and I still play with /effects none most of the time because AE spells (particularly my own AE nuke) own me. Therefore how am I to tell that I should nuke the SB? Clerics can stun all they like, but unless the wizards know to nuke, which they invariably won't, it won't do much good.
In all fairness, the only person who knows an enemy char is stunned is the person who stunned them. Sure, you can have great co-ordination, but to be honest, if a shadowblade is slicing away at me and suddenly freezes, im going to get some distance between me and him. NOT stand next to him nuking, on the off-chance that he's stunned. I have a 2.4GHz rig and I still play with /effects none most of the time because AE spells (particularly my own AE nuke) own me. Therefore how am I to tell that I should nuke the SB? Clerics can stun all they like, but unless the wizards know to nuke, which they invariably won't, it won't do much good.
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K0nah
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If its on a 10sec timer explain to me why/how I saw Gobarnachta cast stun on to 2 grp mates over the top of mezz one after the other (no delay) and pbaoe them both to death in 2-3 nukes?
Edit: He/She/It is saying Mintrel stun IS on a timer - hib caster stun is NOT on a timer, other than the DEX/BUFF MODIFIED 2.5s cast time.
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Uhm well yes, albs whine the most would be sad if hibs whined the most since they already are on the top of the foodchain (stats prove it) AND since they will get a major improvement with INSTA aoe mezz from the bard. I wouldnt be whining either with your realms abilities. (lol hoho I have the best RvR classes and now im gonna laugh at the others)
Scenario one
Hibs run into an alb group without sorc, hibs press the win button, wait a moment to see who resisted mezz, caster stun or shield slam him then nuke him into oblivion. From then on just break the mezz on the key players with casteble stun and nuke em to death while tanks play it slightle more defensive.
Scenario two
Alb sorc is a good sorc - sees hibs insta casts mezz (and the albs rejoyce ) Now the albs have to break mezz on the nasty bard or elf with a stun, if not the bard will press his win button again and the situation reverses 100% Tank walks up to bard ... Oops missed, oops mezzed, /release
OR you are luck and have a druid ... group purge press win button and gank.
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Khalen
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Originally posted by Noche
Albs own hibs, hibs whining.
Hibs own albs, albs whining.
NP owning absolutly all last week and nobody whining.
ROFLMAO
I don't wanna say much but we trapped NP some times also...
The problem with Albs is their big ego and the fighting on their own. We albs don't make 'perfect rvr groups'. Most of the times it's who needs a group and then they just team. We have support classes who don't support and we have people who don't wanna listen. In the last couple of weeks albs rvr has lowered a lot, fewer albs go to RvR because they don't like it anymore. It's like a spiral if it goes down we go down the whole way..