IRC blabbers

[Fafnir]

Well the problem is that people that are not ingame, might logon just to defend the relics, and thus use a 3rd party tool to alter the gameplay. In my eyes i think using IRC, giving info on enemy movements etc. should be banned.

 

[andyr00barb]

Ban irc to inform gu members of when spot opens in group?
Ban irc to remind gu members of gu event (PvE or RvR)?
Appreciate these have nothing to do with enemy movements, but gameplay is impacted.
Where is the line drawn?


I do realise that relic raids must require a lot of organisation, and that's why people get so wound up when relic raids get spoilt. What if gu channels on irc are made secure before announements made (don't really use irc, so don't know if this is possible)?

 

[Fafnir]

dont you have a /gu ingame? Then why do you need it in irc? Or is it just a cool factor to have a guild channel on irc?

 

[andyr00barb]

Originally posted by Fafnir
dont you have a /gu ingame? Then why do you need it in irc? Or is it just a cool factor to have a guild channel on irc?

I'm not sure why people have own gu channels tbh. Though I expect people want to be able chat without using channels full of crap. The reasons I stated above are also decent reason for gu channels I suppose. Can't imagine someone getting a good reaction if they reminded their own gu of an event in #daoc.prydwen.

Ban people phoning friends not in game regarding game related issues? (hypothetical obviously)

 

[Fafnir]

This is about IRC, not telephone's. but if i'm not totally wrong its against the rules to use a 3rd party tool to change the gameplay. So in Theory that would include telephone's.

But i just think its really sad that someone feel the need to blabber on IRC about on going or a relic raid that is about to happen.

And its one thing to remind your mates about a planned hunt you have, and warning your realm mates about raids.

 

[old.Atrox]

Originally posted by Artemls
Well the GM in PE thinks it's OK to use own guild channel for that information so why can't Bjel do the same in his?

the leader of a Cult in Waco Texan thought it was ok to shoot at FBI then burn all his Cult members.
does that mean I can do that aswell ?


two wrong doesnt make one right.

 

[nemesisgm]

Though i wasn't online at the time, in defence of midgard, specially as Thornbeard quoted, amg in Odins is pretty much camped by at least mid stealther 24/7 so short of them being run over by a zerg, your not likely to get all of them, Razorus, Cylian, myself and many more spend the majority of our time watching our realms mile gates. So the chances are albs you were spotted legally and informed legally. As for comments made regarding middies using mirc should it prove true which is hard to do, then I feel very sorry for those albs who put time and effort into organising and leading the raid.I personally have had coutnless and I mean countless relic raids ruined by people on mirc shouting about on public channels, some of whom are those making comment regarding Blej's alleged actions. I've even written to goa about it, to whcih their replay was sorry but theres nothing we can do about it. IT's going to happen, but shouldn't be tolerated.

D.

 

[Addlcove]

Originally posted by andyr00barb
From most of the posts I seen here mids knew about RR before it got onto irc.

and I say again, info was spotted on IRC BEFORE WE LEFT APK.

I am well aware that we could have been spotted at amg, and I know we where, that doesn´t change the fact that at 7.15 someone had said on IRC that a RR was in progress.

 

[andyr00barb]

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Think irc could only be a tenuous link, assuming that's the part of the EULA you're referring to.

I would agree that pre-warning of RRs on irc is pretty lame. But then again pre-warning implies some sort of cross-realm spying (which most people are gonna be against).

But warning guild members of a RR that's already been on /as and /gu via gu irc channel is a different kettle of custard imo.

 

[old.Atrox]

tbh just raid when mids are in school...
they dont wanna play fair anyway xD

 

[andyr00barb]

Originally posted by Addlcove
and I say again, info was spotted on IRC BEFORE WE LEFT APK.

If that's the major issue here, then irc isn't the real problem, it's cross-realm spying. Irc is just a way of communicating it. If this info was in irc before it was in /gu and /as chat in Midgard then something's supect. But I doubt it was.

 

[bloody]

imho there's nothing wrong with telling stuff on irc if you'e already spotted the enemy yourself.

WHAT IS WRONG is if one from the raiding realm informs about it on irc, therefore giving info that woulnd't have gotten there normally

 

[old.Atrox]

Originally posted by bloody
imho there's nothing wrong with telling stuff on irc if you'e already spotted the enemy yourself.

WHAT IS WRONG is if one from the raiding realm informs about it on irc, therefore giving info that woulnd't have gotten there normally

It is wrong, since you not only inform mids but hibs aswell.
and as we all know hibs take every chance they get at some RP farming (xD).
Also ppl who arent logged gets informed, so it alters the game play.

all IRC blabbing about ingame enemie locations/numbers sucks, got nothing todo on IRC.

 

[shanks]

Originally posted by balistic
sez the guy who has both a savage and a bd? only missing a healer for a successfull 3 man relic raid now

Such stlong and relevant arguement. /clap

 

[Mid_Blejsarus]

i wasnt in game got a pm on irc.
Will ask this person who he got info from.
If we do got a spy in alb i have np telling who it is.
But this is reverse also. Since i remember it been out on irc atleast 2 times before we have even moved out of the pk.
But what happend? Noone tooked intiativ and tried to get if it was a spy or not. More like, yes we got a spy in realm!
I will check it out anyway.

 

[kryin]

Originally posted by Dunmer
Oh I see.

http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/kauttone/goodgameblejs.jpg

So you wasn't ingame but felt you needed to spam it on an open IRC channel anyway nice work Blejs .

Feel free to stop playing or grow up im my humble opinion.

 

[old.Jeriraa]

Hypocrites!!!

If you guys weren't so 1337 that you have to insta-brag about every won battle there was no use for IRC at all. Its your own fault that it is abused because you use it.

 

[ormorof]

imo we should blame the apk camping people in odins

knew about the raid because we always have groups running around odin's so even if someone hadnt blabbed on IRC(if they even did) then we would still have known about it pretty quickly, we were kinda lucky too as Grivne had just started a guild RvR grp at svasud so we were rdy to move out at a quick response

oh and btw that picture is after it had been spammed about 10 times in NE /as.....

 

[old.Atrox]

Originally posted by old.Jeriraa
Hypocrites!!!

If you guys weren't so 1337 that you have to insta-brag about every won battle there was no use for IRC at all. Its your own fault that it is abused because you use it.

"Genom sig själv Känner man andra"
roughly translated
"Through yourself you know Others"

There is other use of IRC then the way you use it.
oh and please tell me that you never use IRC and prove yourself full of shit for posting made up accusations etc.

 

[majkster]

bla bla bla bla bla

 

[old.Jeriraa]

Originally posted by old.Atrox
"Genom sig själv Känner man andra"
roughly translated
"Through yourself you know Others"

There is other use of IRC then the way you use it.
oh and please tell me that you never use IRC and prove yourself full of shit for posting made up accusations etc.

I never use IRC.

I dont have the program installed, never will - point.

 

[old.Atrox]

Originally posted by old.Jeriraa
I never use IRC.

I dont have the program installed, never will - point.

k so what you say is complete bullshit.

 

[old.Jeriraa]

You're welcome.

 

[old.tuppe]

why in hell albs try blame mids we stopped relicraid?
if you think someone in your own!! realm was announcing it too early, look there, not us.

albs have spy in mids and those give nice and good info all our relicraids, or how last time when we was after relic ~11.00am cet, there was near 200 albs waiting allmost excalibur?
fade good example, allmost 1st alb in relickeep.

compare this topic example mids unsuccefull reliraids, and suddenly notice how much albs blame us spying, but when we say same to albs, they are quiet and ignore whole thing.

 

[faderullan]

Hmm what have i done now? I havent spied on anyone?

Why do people always blaim all shit on me?

 

[old.Jeriraa]

Poor Fader /hug (Now Pbuck must refrain from planting pets on me for 1 fight!)

 

[old.Atrox]

Originally posted by faderullan
Hmm what have i done now? I havent spied on anyone?

Why do people always blaim all shit on me?

I blame Derric got old :/
so now it's "I blame Fadeh"

 

[Fafnir]

I remember about a year ago, you albs staged a relicraid. Think it was the one you hid your carrier in GG's foot, i was up in odins. Running to Apk to suicide, suddenly i got a huge lagspike, i always got lagspikes when enemies ported in, but this one lasted for a while, and as i died to the guards, the doors opened and i saw crap loads of albs in there, i reported it. Then i got a question if i got that info from a guy that was later banned for crossrealming.

And since i had not, so that was just lucky since i and rest of mid didnt know about your raid, only this guy who got banned (dont know the whole story, think other people played his account too at a internet cafe, but he got banned.) and he had only told a few guys in his guild who decided not to act on the information until you where spotted by other mids, then the call for relic raid was sounded.

And as you know massports creates lag, and if you are on a slower computer with slower connection, you will notice it. I could even tell when people ported in, but that stopped when i updated my computer and connection. My comp was so bad i didnt even go into df


But none the less, there are people who just have to crossrealm and fuck up the rest of the players, think they enjoy it. But i say they should be banned from the game. So just report people you think are crossrealming, if they are not Goa will find out, if they are Goa will find out and ban them.

 

[Artemls]

Originally posted by old.Atrox
the leader of a Cult in Waco Texan thought it was ok to shoot at FBI then burn all his Cult members.
does that mean I can do that aswell ?


two wrong doesnt make one right.

I didnt say I thought it was OK using guild channel for RR info. Just find it strange that same people thought it was OK a few weeks ago when done by Albs now.

 

[Whisperess]

Seriously - spying & relaying ingame information on a non-ingame channel is quite sad and pathetic.

You're taking this game way too seriously if you need to go outside the borders of the game just to hold on to a few relics...
( and yes, phoning a friend to inform of a relic raid is also quite sad - just think about it for a while... )