Internet Meetups

[Teh Krypt]

Im talking about people that for 16- in this..

Ok its always on the news, that those naughty men lurk in chat rooms. Now ive been using irc for almost 2 years now and not 1 has ever tried anything. What I want to know is how can someone be SO SO stupid to actualy go and meet the people? Especialy a 12/13/14 year old girl for god sake. Just how stupid can you be.

On the other hand its largly exadurated, the very same thing cna happen if you nip down to the local spar...

 

[doh_boy]

I think the point is that parents don't monitor their children when they;re on the internet because they think its totally safe. Also children can be very trusting (which is not stupid ). I'd rather them be trusting and innocent rather than the gobshites you get round my way.

 

[Testin da Cable]

Come round my place Kryptie. I have lots of computer games you can play! Don't forget to bring all the creditcards you can find in the house though, or you don't get any pie!





aye, kids can be trusting and quite naive, but in tdc's black book there's a big BIG difference between that and going off with someone you've never seen and say...getting on a plane. that's just stupid. parents have to get with the times imo and educate their kids.

 

[Tom]

I was chatting with a reporter, and he told me that a big reason for that girl running away with the 46 year old dodgy geezer was the way her mum was. He said she was more interested in going down the pub, and that this fella was the first person who had ever shown her any real attention.

Not that I'm excusing what happened, but it does bear thinking about.

 

[The-Don]

Originally posted by Teh Krypt
Now ive been using irc for almost 2 years now and not 1 has ever tried anything.

why would anyone in their right frame of mind want to

 

[Deadmanwalking]

I saw you talking to him yesterday ben. Being a tad overly friendly.

 

[Testin da Cable]

pr0n?

 

[.Cask]

What really annoys me is when they show the 'distraught parent' on TV barely able to contain their sobs while they blubber out, "Just let us know you're alright!"

Some of them aren't too bad but the ones I've seen recently are just blatently overacting trying to pull the heart strings of the viewers. I don't think I'm being heartless, just not naive enough to think that these stories are as cut-and-dried as the media makes out.

 

[kameleon]

Doh-boy's point was an excellent one. Parents should take a more hands on role in what their young children are actually doing when they are online.

 

[Testin da Cable]

that 'hands on' thing might come over bad if they're browsing pr0n. tbh. soz, I'll shut up now.

 

[evilmonkeh]

i know david milner
but if they ran off together, the chap shouldnt get arrested!
as long as its consented sex who cares...
anyway 14 aint that young (not a 6yr old or something)

 

[Teh Krypt]

Hmm.. well I don't think its a case of 'parents get with the times' you need common sence to stop you from going out and meeting people like that....

My dad knows I goto chat rooms, I never let him see what I write however

He trusts me and knows im not stupid enouth to go and meet up with someone...

 

[evilmonkeh]

yeah, basically if anyone is stupid enough to get lured into a paedofile, (unless they are young) its their own fault.

 

[John Travolta]

Originally posted by Teh Krypt
Hmm.. well I don't think its a case of 'parents get with the times' you need common sence to stop you from going out and meeting people like that....

My dad knows I goto chat rooms, I never let him see what I write however

He trusts me and knows im not stupid enouth to go and meet up with someone...

See you Sunday.

AARRR!!

 

[Testin da Cable]

that's what I was trying to say though. there's a line where naiviety stops and stupidity sets in. the trick as I see it is to educate your kid well enough for the little'un to know when it's about to do something silly , but not to hammer in the harsh facts of life so hard that it will look all leary eyed at the world.
there are several parents on the boards. I look forward to one of them commenting.

 

[Teh Krypt]

Something interesting I would like to know... what are the rates of 'bad meetups' comepared with America?

Its bad to generalise but I have a tend to think american children have a lot less sence

 

[John Travolta]

Originally posted by Teh Krypt
Something interesting I would like to know... what are the rates of 'bad meetups' comepared with America?

Its bad to generalise but I have a tend to think american children have a lot less sence

Some might say not just the children.

 

[Testin da Cable]

Originally posted by evilmonkeh
yeah, basically if anyone is stupid enough to get lured into a paedofile, (unless they are young) its their own fault.

hmm, I do and don't agree. imo a child should know it shouldn't say...give out it's home addy or whatever to some person in #kiddychat. for some odd reason I am under the impression that they do it all the time...but then I somehow get the idea that the average kid in a chatroom talks to other average kids that he or she knows somehow. Ie from school, sports whatever. They make rooms and talk about rubbish. I hope to god that my eventual son or daughter will turn a leary eye on people asking things like "what school do you go to then" followed by "what time do you go home then" in real life as well as on the internet.
edit: the nasty is that people don't go about it so blatantly I guess. At least, if I were going to lure a child into a trap I'd befriend it first. jeebus I feel ill ://


That's where a parent has to have (at least) had a quiet meditative chat well beforehand I think. gah, I get chills even thinking about planning something like that :/

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by .Cask
What really annoys me is when they show the 'distraught parent' on TV barely able to contain their sobs while they blubber out, "Just let us know you're alright!"

Some of them aren't too bad but the ones I've seen recently are just blatently overacting trying to pull the heart strings of the viewers. I don't think I'm being heartless, just not naive enough to think that these stories are as cut-and-dried as the media makes out.

Thats just about the most stupid f**king ignorant thing I've ever seen said on these forums. .Cask maybe you should return in a few years, when you've had time to mature.

 

[John Travolta]

Imo if your kids not mature enough then you dont let them in chat rooms.

 

[AniDante]

If you're meaning the latest runaways (a girl of 12 with a 14 year old boy), they met on holiday, not over the internet.

The Media (TV, papers etc.) have it in for the internet, as it's their main rival, free information and news, who needs a paper when you can browse bbcnews.co.uk during your break?

Anyway, if you read the artical closely, for one tiny little line it mentions he went down to stay with her, under the watchful eye of her mother of course for a day (all that way for a day? jeepers), but when she wanted to travel to him it was not allowed. These two obviously were serious about this (even before they ran away), and the parents did nothing to support their kids, just put them off the relationship and force them to take a drastic action, I have to admit a very drastic and stupid action as there's not much chance of them surviving on their own.

Anyway, my point is this, stop bad mouthing the internet for everything, years ago people blaimed the TV for everything that went wrong. Don't give a nasty opinion on people or take the media's view, you need to look deeper. These kids were obviously not very happy at home to run away and risk everything, they must have felt the only thing worth in life was each other. That shows how close they are to their parents doesn't it?

Education and Parenting has gone downhill years ago, these days kids are either allowed to get away with vandalism and god knows what, or they're abused so much they commit suicide or run away.

 

[Teh Krypt]

Was refering to everyone that this chatroom thing applys to.. im aware that the 15 & 12 year old met on holiday

On that note, why would you like a 12 year old? For god sake they are not even developed yet

 

[AniDante]

He was 14, and if you look at the pic of them at the beach on holiday, you might just see what he saw in her. What she sees in him is a mystery tho.

It seems girls are developing earlier these days, teen pregnancies are quite serious. I believe Crawley has the worst in this country, 13 years old I think while in the states a girl as young as 11 or 12 managed to get herself pregnant.

God knows what they're feeding them these days!

Must be a combination of miracle grow and aphrodisiacs.

 

[.Cask]

Originally posted by Captain Tom
Thats just about the most stupid f**king ignorant thing I've ever seen said on these forums. .Cask maybe you should return in a few years, when you've had time to mature.

You're probably right, that didn't really come out the way I meant it. I'll drop the subject before I make myself look like a real mean ass.

 

[Teh Krypt]

Btw.. the news just said hes 15..

 

[Meatballs]

daily mail said he was 14 (he might have dinged since they met however)

She was taller than him, and looked slightly older, so it's not like he had nothing to see in her, girls start puberty earlier than boys etc.

 

[Yoni]

My boss found his 14 year old daughter online telling people in a chatroom she was 17 - you can not immediately call these people kiddy fiddlers without knowing the whole story.

Say the girl has run off having told said chap she was 17 the media get involved and the next think you know he is branded a kiddy fiddler - what would you do if you were in that situation?

Kind of scary for the bloke who is in fact duped by the girly.

Admittedly there are people out there looking for children as there were people who hung round parks / primary schools before the days of the net (some still do). The same reasoning holds why would any child go off with a stranger because the stranger offers them something they want i.e. sweets

In my opinion parents should give the same advice to children using the net as they do when they talk about strangers and that is not to meet up with them. In fact parents have an added bonus if their child is online that it is easier to monitor who they are talking to which again every parent should.

JBP and I monitor everything his 14-year-old son does online and have also briefed him on the pros and cons of online chat.

I guess we are at an advantage as we are an Internet success story.

 

[Teh Krypt]

JBP and I monitor everything his 14-year-old son does online and have also briefed him on the pros and cons of online chat.

and what happens when he browses teh porn?

 

[Yoni]

Well its simple the pr0n he browses involves boobies only (at the moment). He is 6ft 3 and could quite easily get away with buying pr0n magazines or gape at topless women in the sport (as he does a paper round also).

Personally I think it is quite natural for a 14-year-old boy to be taking an interest in that kind of stuff. I also believe that telling him that is it norteh / evil / heathen etc can be counter productive and make us seem unapproachable on such subjects, therefore alienating him which is the last thing we want.

Its important to us that when he is ready he will feel able to discuss sex and its related topics with us rather than make uninformed decisions because he doesn't think we will understand.

 

[Teh Krypt]

Im still at the stage of deleting history.

While my dad receives 200+ porn filled emails a day