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yog-hurt
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sigh - once again READ YOU GIMP
i didnt say that - pfft...trying to flame with gimped info...well done
sigh - once again READ YOU GIMP
i didnt say that - pfft...trying to flame with gimped info...well done
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Mavl
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lol yog
If you go solo killing anyone/camping anything and not as part of a group, don't expect someone to heal u on demand. Those healers around you have their groups to worry about not some infi #7895234652 that runs around soloing.
You will be healed if you are in a grp with healer. This applies to everyone. Noone will heal you just for u to pharm some more rp.
If you go solo killing anyone/camping anything and not as part of a group, don't expect someone to heal u on demand. Those healers around you have their groups to worry about not some infi #7895234652 that runs around soloing.
You will be healed if you are in a grp with healer. This applies to everyone. Noone will heal you just for u to pharm some more rp.
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sorusi
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most ppl play their classes crap.. they are either stupid or just semi afk all the time...
and playing a healing class takes lost of reactions and fast decisions etc... most do not have this...
and playing a healing class takes lost of reactions and fast decisions etc... most do not have this...
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old.Finster
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Finster heals you for 74hp .
did i leave that bad an impression on you, ody?
Finster heals you for 232 hp. Oops, didn t know i could do that.
Finster, <Nolby Pride>
aka Flipster Smite-No-More
.did i leave that bad an impression on you, ody?
Finster heals you for 232 hp. Oops, didn t know i could do that.
Finster, <Nolby Pride>
aka Flipster Smite-No-More
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Arthwyr
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Funny toppic
1)First of all I dont choose to solo, most of the time I am forced to solo because groups need CC, Speed, Healers, Shieldtanks etc and even if there is 7 of em in a group they still run off alone becasue they are always saving the last spot for anything but an infiltrator.
2)Though soloing an infil can be still fun and rewarding these days it takes a few simple rules to be effective. Not going out unboofed and being willing to lose alot of time running back and forth stealthed as well as goign for suicide kills to get any rpoints in an evening are some of em. Part from that sometimes its fun but after a while standing at choke points for hours waiting for a target to pass and then having it leeched by your fellow realm mates who then run off without giving you a heal gets boring pretty fast. And believe it or not, unless you get lucky groups are better rpoints and FAR less boring.
But to illustrate the life of an infil here are some everyday examples of the solo life ...
AMG. Solo cleric gets jumped by an SB you move in, pa the sb cd him almost have him dead as he ips (cleric stands tehre looking like an idiot) sb is about to drop ... 2nd SB pops up to help his mate. SB one goes down, I ip and start my fight with sb nr2 (cleric still stands there like a moron) I'm not getting any evades on this sb so he is owning me pretty bad and with my health at 30% I /Y HEAL ...
I take another blow health drops some more ... /Y HEAL ... nothing
So my bar is down to the last few milimeters and the next hit will kill me and what do i see above the shadowblades head ... THE WONDERFULL LIGHTNING OF A GIMPED SMITE... and i die
SB IPs, attacks cleric, kills cleric
AMG. Camping stairs for SBs unboofed. I see aada coming up (ALWAYS BOOFED) and i think to myself hmmmm 2-3 Fg of albs below np i hit her they help me we kill her. So i hit aada and /Y ... no reaction from below 2 hits, health down to 50% another /Y (not even one of em looks in the direction of the yell) Another double hit 25% health left just as i think that im about to die i get an evade, Dragonfang her and finnish the job and the albs below ... run off
MMG Hibs attack albs from behind once the combat starts I join the chaos and me and 8 other albs die in a nice circle around a mana chanter who got moc up so 8 dead albs in nice circle around the body of an elf. Albs win the battle and start rezzing ... and i'm not kidding you they rezz ALL 7 ALBS AND LEAVE ME DEAD then runn off through mmg to kill 4 mids that appeared. So i lay there for about 10 minutes ... Full group of a guild that im not gonna mention runs by and practicly tramples my head ... no rezz. After 15minutes or so some cleric decides to rezz me, nice.
AMG-APK Got run over by a zerg headed from apk to amg when i jumped a loner so they walse over me chased by 20ish albs ... battle unfolds around the spot where i died, albs win. This cleric that stood next to me smiting the entire duration of the fight takes a seat on me, rests for mana and runs off to amg. So ofcourse I pm him to thank him for the wonderfull rezz and if he sat comfortably on my back while he was resting for mana. the reply "I got better things to do then rezzing infiltrators"
I could go on
1)First of all I dont choose to solo, most of the time I am forced to solo because groups need CC, Speed, Healers, Shieldtanks etc and even if there is 7 of em in a group they still run off alone becasue they are always saving the last spot for anything but an infiltrator.
2)Though soloing an infil can be still fun and rewarding these days it takes a few simple rules to be effective. Not going out unboofed and being willing to lose alot of time running back and forth stealthed as well as goign for suicide kills to get any rpoints in an evening are some of em. Part from that sometimes its fun but after a while standing at choke points for hours waiting for a target to pass and then having it leeched by your fellow realm mates who then run off without giving you a heal gets boring pretty fast. And believe it or not, unless you get lucky groups are better rpoints and FAR less boring.
But to illustrate the life of an infil here are some everyday examples of the solo life ...
AMG. Solo cleric gets jumped by an SB you move in, pa the sb cd him almost have him dead as he ips (cleric stands tehre looking like an idiot) sb is about to drop ... 2nd SB pops up to help his mate. SB one goes down, I ip and start my fight with sb nr2 (cleric still stands there like a moron) I'm not getting any evades on this sb so he is owning me pretty bad and with my health at 30% I /Y HEAL ...
I take another blow health drops some more ... /Y HEAL ... nothing
So my bar is down to the last few milimeters and the next hit will kill me and what do i see above the shadowblades head ... THE WONDERFULL LIGHTNING OF A GIMPED SMITE... and i die
SB IPs, attacks cleric, kills cleric
AMG. Camping stairs for SBs unboofed. I see aada coming up (ALWAYS BOOFED) and i think to myself hmmmm 2-3 Fg of albs below np i hit her they help me we kill her. So i hit aada and /Y ... no reaction from below 2 hits, health down to 50% another /Y (not even one of em looks in the direction of the yell) Another double hit 25% health left just as i think that im about to die i get an evade, Dragonfang her and finnish the job and the albs below ... run off
MMG Hibs attack albs from behind once the combat starts I join the chaos and me and 8 other albs die in a nice circle around a mana chanter who got moc up so 8 dead albs in nice circle around the body of an elf. Albs win the battle and start rezzing ... and i'm not kidding you they rezz ALL 7 ALBS AND LEAVE ME DEAD then runn off through mmg to kill 4 mids that appeared. So i lay there for about 10 minutes ... Full group of a guild that im not gonna mention runs by and practicly tramples my head ... no rezz. After 15minutes or so some cleric decides to rezz me, nice.
AMG-APK Got run over by a zerg headed from apk to amg when i jumped a loner so they walse over me chased by 20ish albs ... battle unfolds around the spot where i died, albs win. This cleric that stood next to me smiting the entire duration of the fight takes a seat on me, rests for mana and runs off to amg. So ofcourse I pm him to thank him for the wonderfull rezz and if he sat comfortably on my back while he was resting for mana. the reply "I got better things to do then rezzing infiltrators"
I could go on
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yog-hurt
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i agree a lot with gawain - and i know very well the guild he is taling about ^^
they know who they are
they know who they are
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leap
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I dont care to read further down...
...but from my point of view stealthers arent ment to stand back tanking TANK's. they are supposed to go take out other stealthers aiming for mages/healers or go for healer mages themself...
...but from my point of view stealthers arent ment to stand back tanking TANK's. they are supposed to go take out other stealthers aiming for mages/healers or go for healer mages themself...
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cplcarrot
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Basically, to set the record straight, u were being extreemly arrogant in chat group and the circumstance was also to be brought into consideration.
All in all, you cant go shouting ffs ffs you noobs etc etc in chat group and expect it to make people more likely to help you.
I really dont know if u were having a bad day or not, cos we used to see eye to eye. But being in that chat group was like reading envenom posts.
In short, I am not a 100% group infil, but I group if I can and if the group is full of good friendly players.
If u stand in between milegate doors, then u should expect to get nuked to hell, a cleric should heal u if they spot it - but its their perogative, if its GUARANTEED healing u want , so you can take those sort of risks, then join a group.
It was more your behaviour that I didnt take a liking to, so someone didnt spot u and heal, does that deserve u to tell them u demand healing? and become offensive with them>?
All in all, you cant go shouting ffs ffs you noobs etc etc in chat group and expect it to make people more likely to help you.
I really dont know if u were having a bad day or not, cos we used to see eye to eye. But being in that chat group was like reading envenom posts.
In short, I am not a 100% group infil, but I group if I can and if the group is full of good friendly players.
If u stand in between milegate doors, then u should expect to get nuked to hell, a cleric should heal u if they spot it - but its their perogative, if its GUARANTEED healing u want , so you can take those sort of risks, then join a group.
It was more your behaviour that I didnt take a liking to, so someone didnt spot u and heal, does that deserve u to tell them u demand healing? and become offensive with them>?
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yog-hurt
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sigh - 1.i dnt expect GUARANTEED heals
2. on this occasion i was the ONLY person under attack of any sort... can you not ocmtemplate that ?? or read??
3.it would have been almost im possible not to spot me lol..
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old.Odysseus
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LOL i remember once you healed me for 198 - all time high I thinkFinster heals you for 74hp
did i leave that bad an impression on you, ody?
Finster heals you for 232 hp. Oops, didn t know i could do that.
Finster, <Nolby Pride>
aka Flipster Smite-No-More
In my soloing days, I expected no heals in RvR (no clerics in Yggdra or Gorge anyway).
These days ... I stopped trying to think, I just nuke stuff - got 5 or 6 kills in a 2FG vs 2 FG fight yesterday
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old.DachraK
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People that solo should not expect a heal, healers are having a hard time healing their groupmates alrdy.
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Jiggs
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Please tell me why everyone in RvR thinks anyone who can heal/rez has an unlimited mana supply...
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yog-hurt
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i give up, you just don't read what i write lol..
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bracken_woodman
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Maybe they have and just think you're wrong...
"90% albs are noobs blah blah blah"
Hmmm, nice attitude.
Finally, I have to say that if you are who I think you are (the character f.k.a. Minko), then I don't have a lot of sympathy. As I remember, you left our guild (having also jumped between a number of other guilds), ran off to Midgard (swapping accounts), only for me to meet you and another ex-guildie (Carn) just a few days later while I was solo-questing in Snowdonia. The pair of you then took great delight in giving me an xp death. Shit happens in frontiers of course, but I might have dared to expect different from someone who just a few days previously had been in our guild. Guess the rps were just too much to resist eh... but then when you're so uber its worth shitting on people right? Like I say, nice attitude.
Btw, are you still in touch with your ex-middy chums by any chance? Just wondered by the way you keep slagging off your current realm mates....
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cplcarrot
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I gotta agree, its dissapointing to see u since u "changed" you were a nice player and helpful ally a while ago... :/
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Azzaro-Ewolyn
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I have both a infiltrater and a cleric.
If I am in RvR as a cleirc, and I see my group do not need healing for the time, and I see anyone else fighting I will push F9 to see who is geting hurt and heal him.
I dont expect to get a heal my self, then I play my infiltrater, but it is nice when I get the heal that save my ass, and I win the fight.
But I will also say at some point where my group is in troupel, I dont have the time to heal others, the group is first priorty.
Sorry my english, hope you get the point.
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Ewolyn level 48 infiltrater
Azzaro level 47 cleric
If I am in RvR as a cleirc, and I see my group do not need healing for the time, and I see anyone else fighting I will push F9 to see who is geting hurt and heal him.
I dont expect to get a heal my self, then I play my infiltrater, but it is nice when I get the heal that save my ass, and I win the fight.
But I will also say at some point where my group is in troupel, I dont have the time to heal others, the group is first priorty.
Sorry my english, hope you get the point.
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Ewolyn level 48 infiltrater
Azzaro level 47 cleric
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Ialkarn
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Yog you are a gimp!
You arent allow to solo animore,play whit me my monkey and you 'll get all the heals you need by our sexeh clerics.
k?thx
You arent allow to solo animore,play whit me my monkey and you 'll get all the heals you need by our sexeh clerics.
k?thx
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Envenom2
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LOL Iaklarn why dont you just go have a wank over the assiassin nerf ive lost count the number of times ive killed u 1on1 and chances are after the nerf il still be owning you gimp
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old.Outlaw
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Dang I wish I was there Yog, I would have chuked a BT on you and ran in and rooted/interupted whoever was casting on j00.
As for space for infils in groups, Albs are structured in such a way that u need 8 ppl to function properly, and I can blatantly see the advantages of all classes except for Infils in fg v fg situations, cuz quite frankly the chance of u stealthing, then moving at slow speed to PA a caster without getting mezzed/rooted/stunned and DDed to death or half the group being whiped out by 2 overpowered elves is very slim. whereas a caster could be DDing/CCing tanks guarding/slamming/charging elves/bards, scouts could be taking out elves, minstrels stunning/mezzing, clerics healing/BOFing. I am afraid that that just reduces Infils to tanks .....which I would rather have a paladin that can guard/FH/slam/res. OK I know occasionaly Infils can guard casters and PA SBs/NSs but....there's only 8 slots in a group.
LOL note my ideal RvR situation ^^ is based on hibs
J00 mids s00k
As for space for infils in groups, Albs are structured in such a way that u need 8 ppl to function properly, and I can blatantly see the advantages of all classes except for Infils in fg v fg situations, cuz quite frankly the chance of u stealthing, then moving at slow speed to PA a caster without getting mezzed/rooted/stunned and DDed to death or half the group being whiped out by 2 overpowered elves is very slim. whereas a caster could be DDing/CCing tanks guarding/slamming/charging elves/bards, scouts could be taking out elves, minstrels stunning/mezzing, clerics healing/BOFing. I am afraid that that just reduces Infils to tanks .....which I would rather have a paladin that can guard/FH/slam/res. OK I know occasionaly Infils can guard casters and PA SBs/NSs but....there's only 8 slots in a group.
LOL note my ideal RvR situation ^^ is based on hibs
J00 mids s00k
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osrim
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Somepoints
What infils can do now...and do after nerf 97% fully.
Cripple poison with blade switching healers,bards and tanks so they cant really attack casters (protect em).
Kill casters, buffed infil can easily take out couple caster elves fast. Just pa first, and second hit should do him. Next is usually near by, just hit and run thru then some styles from back.
Bards fall fast too, pa..run thru back...bladeswitch...keep styling. Usually dead bard really soon. They cant escape cause crippling poison.
Check keep defenders numbers, protect casters in walls from other assasins. _Only_ assasin will notice other assasin early enough to prevent crit moves.
Kill those archerers, casters on walls and basicly take down defenders at keeps.
When defending keeps do runs outside pa and get inside keep...repeat...dead casters outside wall.
Diffrent thing is how infils usually do their jobs. Soloing and groupping is 2 diffrent things. These are couple things that infils can do in group and some in solo too.
Originally posted by old.Outlaw
Dang I wish I was there Yog, I would have chuked a BT on you and ran in and rooted/interupted whoever was casting on j00.
As for space for infils in groups, Albs are structured in such a way that u need 8 ppl to function properly, and I can blatantly see the advantages of all classes except for Infils in fg v fg situations, cuz quite frankly the chance of u stealthing, then moving at slow speed to PA a caster without getting mezzed/rooted/stunned and DDed to death or half the group being whiped out by 2 overpowered elves is very slim. whereas a caster could be DDing/CCing tanks guarding/slamming/charging elves/bards, scouts could be taking out elves, minstrels stunning/mezzing, clerics healing/BOFing. I am afraid that that just reduces Infils to tanks .....which I would rather have a paladin that can guard/FH/slam/res. OK I know occasionaly Infils can guard casters and PA SBs/NSs but....there's only 8 slots in a group.
LOL note my ideal RvR situation ^^ is based on hibs
J00 mids s00k
What infils can do now...and do after nerf 97% fully.
Cripple poison with blade switching healers,bards and tanks so they cant really attack casters (protect em).
Kill casters, buffed infil can easily take out couple caster elves fast. Just pa first, and second hit should do him. Next is usually near by, just hit and run thru then some styles from back.
Bards fall fast too, pa..run thru back...bladeswitch...keep styling. Usually dead bard really soon. They cant escape cause crippling poison.
Check keep defenders numbers, protect casters in walls from other assasins. _Only_ assasin will notice other assasin early enough to prevent crit moves.
Kill those archerers, casters on walls and basicly take down defenders at keeps.
When defending keeps do runs outside pa and get inside keep...repeat...dead casters outside wall.
Diffrent thing is how infils usually do their jobs. Soloing and groupping is 2 diffrent things. These are couple things that infils can do in group and some in solo too.