if god is real

[tris-]

did anyone actually read the website?

people there believe theyve travelled to this pokemon dimension, and others believe these people!

 

[old.Tohtori]

Have you been to this place before tris-?

It's not like facts/websites/links affect(effect?) our replies.

 

[tris-]

apparently digimon is an even more real thing

Digiclipse

 

[Zita]

Whose to say were not ALL different lifeforms, and our eyes just show us what we want to see, and are ears hear what they want to hear?!?!?! heyhey!

 

[CorNokZ]

Omg, just take the world for what it is and stop thinking outside the box..

Jeez! Tinfoil hats alléz alléz alléz!

 

[old.Tohtori]

Omg, just take the world for what it is and stop thinking outside the box..

Jeez! Tinfoil hats alléz alléz alléz!

But but...what if our life is a box, and only way to get out of the box, is to think outside it?

*blows up brain*

 

[Ctuchik]

did anyone actually read the website?

people there believe theyve travelled to this pokemon dimension, and others believe these people!

irony and sarcasm detector malfunctioned?

 

[Binky the Bomb]

Tris- its the internet, the one place any psychologist avoids advertising because they can't handle the crazy.
So people beleive in pokemon and digimon and have traveled to these dimension. It just means they wont get laid in THIS one.

 

[Roalith]

The whole god thing does make me chuckle. It's the recursive argument aspect that usually leaves religious types stumbling.

If god created man, what created god? What came before god? And what came before that?

Did anything have to come before the primordial ooze to 'create' life? (Which is a complete misnomer).

Another thing that really bugs me is the way 'creationists' if you'll forgive the abuse of the term seem to believe that evolution theory is all about luck and random chance. One famous argument being that evolution is as likely to put a human together as a freak hurricane assembling a Boeing 747 out of random parts in an airplane scrapyard - billions to one chance.

Takes a different angle when you consider that evolution is not just about luck. Evolution is survival of the fittest, through random mutation. Like the whole chicken and the egg thing - which came first? Neither. The proto-chicken came first, which laid the proto-egg. For the sake of simplicity, imagine it as: Proto-chickens which laid proto-eggs with a harder shell survived in greater quantity, and out-bread those with thinner shells - their eggs were more resilient to the environment etc.

Which is more likely? A long, gentle slope of millions of years of evolution to the particular peak we're at today? Or the jump from nothing to what we have in the blink of an eyelid from some white bearded dude sitting on a cloud somewhere?

Evolution is blatantly obvious for us to see in every day life, too. You could even argue that technology is one of the simplest examples we have these days. New products are constantly being introduced, those that succeed and are sold in large quantity hang around for a long time, and spawn successors. Those that only sell a few - too expensive, too low tech for their generation - are rapidly ditched.

One final thing that really, really narks me. How can anyone claim their religion is more valid than any other? Believing the Flying Spaggheti Monster created the universe is no less valid than the Christian, Jewish or Muslim faiths. If anything, more valid as it does not attempt to hide the arbitrarily-created-by-a-Roman-Emperor history of the faith like Christianity does with Emperor Constantine.

Yes, I know the point is argued that Atheism is really just another religion, but it really, really isn't. The fundamental principles of atheism are based on evidence and rationalisation using scientific deduction.

I'm here all night if someone wants to try and convert me.

 

[Roalith]

Ahem, excuse the rabid slathering at the mouth at the mere word of religion.

 

[Eeben]

Is this for real?

While I do agree that it could be another dimension, I also have a theory that the government is hiding Pokemon and using them for their evil causes. Electricity can't come from nothing, it most definitely comes from a Piakchu or a Voltorb.

 

[Eeben]

btw how did you find this forum?

 

[Eeben]

ROFL

Kush N Vodka 365 (3:36:17 PM): i think the russians are using the pokeuniverse as a weapon
Evang1109 (3:36:24 PM): OH NO
Kush N Vodka 365 (3:36:25 PM): because i seen a Russian flag when I was there
Evang1109 (3:36:28 PM): ****
Evang1109 (3:36:32 PM): I HAD MY SUSPICIONS
Evang1109 (3:36:38 PM): BUT NOW THEY'RE CONFIRMED
Kush N Vodka 365 (3:36:43 PM): me too but i thought it would be our government
Evang1109 (3:36:46 PM): I'm going there tonight and destroying the Russians!
Kush N Vodka 365 (3:36:46 PM): but its not its theirs
Kush N Vodka 365 (3:37:00 PM): good man i could use your help
Kush N Vodka 365 (3:37:19 PM): they were running scientific tests on pikcahu
Kush N Vodka 365 (3:37:26 PM): i felt so bad for him
Kush N Vodka 365 (3:38:30 PM): tell everybody on the site cause i cant register for some reason
Evang1109 (3:38:51 PM): okay ;_;
Evang1109 (3:38:53 PM): poor pikachu
Kush N Vodka 365 (3:39:05 PM): tell the masses about them dirty russians
Kush N Vodka 365 (3:42:28 PM): and tell everybody how to get there
Evang1109 (3:42:39 PM): I will I promise
Kush N Vodka 365 (3:42:43 PM): ok

 

[haarewin]

what i dont understand about these people is that pokemon were made up strictly for a game and then all the spinoff merch. i dont think some japanese developer really has seen all of the little critters and decided to make a game about them.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Roalith, i'm not gonna try and convert you, no need really, and people like you should stay away from religion anyway.

But one thing i have to ask, as i've yet to get a good answer, is why the do you care? If you think there's no god, as many many atheists around, why do you have to try and convert others with such passion?

You know who the most bigoted, most zealot'y, most annoying religious people are? Those against it. You people just can't seem to stop and leave people be. Hell, even the holy tower of mislebah people, who go door to door spreading the word, know when to f*ck off.

 

[soze]

I went to C of E Schools and will admit i have talked to God a few times (Well talked to myself but you know what i mean)

But now i have to say i do not believe in God some of the evidence shown leads me to believe Religion is just a form of population control and is responsible for all wars. After all we have Jesus the Son of God where its all meant to start. But then people crate another religion becuase they did not like the rules of the first. So i do not believe.

 

[Calaen]

Roalith, i'm not gonna try and convert you, no need really, and people like you should stay away from religion anyway.

But one thing i have to ask, as i've yet to get a good answer, is why the do you care? If you think there's no god, as many many atheists around, why do you have to try and convert others with such passion?

You know who the most bigoted, most zealot'y, most annoying religious people are? Those against it. You people just can't seem to stop and leave people be. Hell, even the holy tower of mislebah people, who go door to door spreading the word, know when to f*ck off.

I dont see atheists running around killing people for not conforming to their non religious ways. Oh noes you printed a blank page showing the lack of our god I shall bomb you!!!!

 

[Calaen]

I went to C of E Schools and will admit i have talked to God a few times (Well talked to myself but you know what i mean)

But now i have to say i do not believe in God some of the evidence shown leads me to believe Religion is just a form of population control and is responsible for all wars. After all we have Jesus the Son of God where its all meant to start. But then people crate another religion becuase they did not like the rules of the first. So i do not believe.

Thats why the slated Life of Brian, because they made a movie which is so true its funny.

 

[old.Tohtori]

I dont see atheists running around killing people for not conforming to their non religious ways. Oh noes you printed a blank page showing the lack of our god I shall bomb you!!!!

Your post kinda validates my point there.

I don't see many religious people doing that either. Moronic way to look at things really, "you believe, you bomb people". Come on.

It's not like atheists don't have murderers etc among them.

 

[Calaen]

Your post kinda validates my point there.

I don't see many religious people doing that either. Moronic way to look at things really, "you believe, you bomb people". Come on.

It's not like atheists don't have murderers etc among them.

yeah not many muslims running around bombing the fuck out of people for not agreeing with them.

 

[old.Tohtori]

yeah not many muslims running around bombing the fuck out of people for not agreeing with them.

There are, but so are atheists killing people, they just have "better" reasons to do so.

I'm saying, if some people bomb others for religion, doesn't mean all do.

You wouldn't judge all black people if some black people went around killing white people for revenge, would you?

There's a difference by the way, in "i don't see" and "i don't see"; I meant that in my circle of life, there's 0% suicide bombers and a good 80-90% of religious people.

ALSO, i always like when anti-religious people use the "they've killed people because of religion" as the BIG excuse. It's not like people wouldn't have started fighting eachother for some other reason. No religion, in it's basis, tells you to kill everyone else. So religion is just a handy excuse, and those are dime in a dozen.

 

[Talivar]

Im not reallly sure if im religious or not since i beleive there has to be higher beings but i also beleive in evolution. What would be funny tho is if we found out God and the Devil ect where true but we had been worshipping the wrong one all this time lol. As ppl say many many millions have died in the name of God/various other names and his religion/s so doesnt it stand to reason that maybe somewhere along the line the good entity was forgotten/defeated by belief and all this time we have worshpped the bad entity that really maybe doesnt care about us hence no divine interventions ect ect.

 

[Ezteq]

getting back to the poemon realism website...

maybe its just a RP forum, i used to go in to all kind of wierd chat rooms before they all got closed down, the vampire one was my fave....the threw me out after i *walks to the bar* do you serve food? ahh great, can i get a stake my good man?. But i mean there was lots of odd stuff people were coming out with and i dont think they believed it i think they were just playing.


anyway if people can believe in a god then why the hell not a pokemon...theyre a darn right cuter tbh.

 

[Binky the Bomb]

getting back to the poemon realism website...

maybe its just a RP forum, i used to go in to all kind of wierd chat rooms before they all got closed down, the vampire one was my fave....the threw me out after i *walks to the bar* do you serve food? ahh great, can i get a stake my good man?. But i mean there was lots of odd stuff people were coming out with and i dont think they believed it i think they were just playing.


anyway if people can believe in a god then why the hell not a pokemon...theyre a darn right cuter tbh.

Sorry Ez, but I checked that forum out, and I have to say that it can only end with the sounds of gunfire. However, if you all need to know just were these guys are in the food chain

There at the bottom.

 

[tris-]

i believe god exists for the same simple fact that humans have the capacity to question if god exists or not.

that is to say, god exists only in that humans believe god exists.

 

[kivik]

yeah not many muslims running around bombing the fuck out of people for not agreeing with them.

Yea right.

Muslims extremists are a small minority of Islams followers. About as small as Christian extremists.

Believe what you want, and don't offend people for not believing the same as you do. Is what I'd say.

 

[kivik]

I went to C of E Schools and will admit i have talked to God a few times (Well talked to myself but you know what i mean)

But now i have to say i do not believe in God some of the evidence shown leads me to believe Religion is just a form of population control and is responsible for all wars. After all we have Jesus the Son of God where its all meant to start. But then people crate another religion becuase they did not like the rules of the first. So i do not believe.

Religion is not a form of population control, but it was/is used for it. And almost all wars are about a) power b) money. But it's always easier to blame the religion.

 

[soze]

Religion is not a form of population control, but it was/is used for it. And almost all wars are about a) power b) money. But it's always easier to blame the religion.

You can trace almost all wars back to religion if you try or you can trace them all back to power depends what you want to believe. And not so much now but Religion was a form of Population control you do not have to agree but its what i believe.

 

[noblok]

You can trace almost all wars back to religion if you try or you can trace them all back to power depends what you want to believe. And not so much now but Religion was a form of Population control you do not have to agree but its what i believe.

Really? Could you tell me what wars specifically you're thinking about? The only ones I can think of are the crusades and even those are questionable. Also: how would you trace the wars in this post back to religion?

 

[Helme]

i cant even comprehend believing such a ridiculous theory as god, i mean be serious. when i sit down and think about it just makes me laugh

I'm about the same really. The furthest I can go without making myself go "are these people brain damaged?" is to think that A God created the universe, then left it to its own while just watching. But somehow our actions having ultimate consequences etc. I really can't grasp, and if it really is the 'truth', then I'd be far more pissed off at the fact that I spent my entire life in some sort of 'test' than worshipping a God through some corrupt church.