Ideas for fixing RvR

[old.Nol]

I notice you take away a bunch of stuff from hib, and give a bunch of stuff to mid and alb.

 

[old.Thanatlos]

Take PBT of Wardens if the other 2 realms keep it on cloth wearers mb give it to ments or sumthing but then that class can't have baseline stun. (if its a caster)

Sure people will play wardens to heal for half of a druid (and get half the toys) and hit for half the damage a shield hero does with 2/3rds the hp and 3/4 the specpoints and specoptions.. yup..

 

[Apathy]

Originally posted by old.Nol
I notice you take away a bunch of stuff from hib, and give a bunch of stuff to mid and alb.

That is because...and stop me if you've heard this one...Hib is overpowered.

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[Novamir]

http://www.camelotherald.com/more/698.php


Im psychic!
.. Well kinda, i predicted a bit of stuff right

 

[old.Nol]

Originally posted by ApathyEndymion


That is because...and stop me if you've heard this one...Hib is overpowered.

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So you you rectify this by making it underpowered...that makes sense, back to the off the shelf version of DOAC.

What would you propose to replace the PBT with on a warden now that you have basically made them really crap version of a druid? You could give them stealth and make them crap versions of a minstrel?

In one easy nerf you managed to make the crappest class in the game, nice one.

 

[Apathy]

I would simply move the PBT to the Regrowth spec line.

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[Kobold]

sigh...whine..whine....

Imo the realms as it is now is dam good balanced in most ways. Some realm might have more advantages on one area, but then the other have other advantages in other areas. If you think one class in DAoC is owerpowered go play ANARCHY ONLINE ffs!

/salute mythic for making the best and most balanced MMORPG ever made

 

[dakeyras]

Originally posted by old.Eternal[EW]
sigh...whine..whine....

Imo the realms as it is now is dam good balanced in most ways.

Coming from a Hib!

The 1.59b changes are a good start. Perhaps in 2-3 months your statement will hold true.

Why is it that Hibs on US servers are accepting that Alb is grossly under-powered and are applauding the changes, whilst Hibs in Europe are desperately trying to convince everyone it's just tactics so as to maintain their advantage?

 

[Amadon]

Originally posted by dakeyras


Coming from a Hib!

The 1.59b changes are a good start. Perhaps in 2-3 months your statement will hold true.

Why is it that Hibs on US servers are accepting that Alb is grossly under-powered and are applauding the changes, whilst Hibs in Europe are desperately trying to convince everyone it's just tactics so as to maintain their advantage?

Because you choose to see the Hibs on US servers who's opinion agrees with and validates your own, whereas you don't wish to see those whose don't.

If Hib were so overpowered surely we would have all the relics? Currently we have the least, is that because we are stupid n00bies who lack skill and co-ordination?

1 fg vs 1 fg is not the sole determining factor of balance.

 

[Kobold]

Originally posted by dakeyras


Coming from a Hib!

The 1.59b changes are a good start. Perhaps in 2-3 months your statement will hold true.

Why is it that Hibs on US servers are accepting that Alb is grossly under-powered and are applauding the changes, whilst Hibs in Europe are desperately trying to convince everyone it's just tactics so as to maintain their advantage?

Uhum..whats so uber about hib actually?

So you mean to say that all alb classes are usless compared to hib classes.....well I think you need to do some more studying m8.

http://camelot.allakhazam.com/

Imo alb got many cool/good classes aswell...infil with 2.5 spec points (more than other realms), friar - very good and very fun class in many ways, theurgist - a class i like that have many funny and good features, tanks have plate armor (other realms don't), main CC class (sorc) have qc and can do good damage - it's a good adwantage in many situations and ofc bad in some, clerics with the abilety to insta stun and smith aswell as do good buffs and healing.....etc many interesting and good classes imo....so stfu and stop whining u alb moron. Only reason peeps think alb is underpowered is becouse you whine so dam much...and on the other side...who cares...delete you're char and switch realm if you don't like it.

PS: Why do alb have most peeps if it is so dam underpowered..?

BTW: I play hib becouse the average population here is much nicer than in the other realms from my experience...not becouse of the classes...

 

[Flimgoblin]

Originally posted by old.Eternal[EW]

Imo alb got many cool/good classes aswell...infil with 2.5 spec points (more than other realms), friar - very good and very fun class in many ways, theurgist - a class i like that have many funny and good features, tanks have plate armor (other realms don't), main CC class (sorc) have qc and can do good damage - it's a good adwantage in many situations and ofc bad in some, clerics with the abilety to insta stun and smith aswell as do good buffs and healing.....etc many interesting and good classes imo....so stfu and stop whining u alb moron. Only reason peeps think alb is underpowered is becouse you whine so dam much...and on the other side...who cares...delete you're char and switch realm if you don't like it.

I've been playing since April - sure I'll just throw away my characters. But I'm not a big fan of going to the 'overpowered' side anyway. Smacks to much of glory-seeking.

A lot of the powergamers already _have_ switched realms.


Infils and friars are nice I'll give you that, they're hardly winning us any battles though.

What level have you played a theurgist to? they're fun in PvE... but you can't do anything if you run 6s pbt, or you can spec for nukes and be a novelty wizard with no bolts...
The pets are utterly useless in RvR.

Plate armour... oh no! you hit for 93 instead of 100... and none of them get evade. Plate is way overrated.

Main cc class wears CLOTH - you even said it yourself - that's two nukes or two hits from a tank. can do good damage? not unless they throw away their CC ... and if they're doing damage they're not doing CC...

Quickcast? yes that's nice in PvE... not bad in RvR... shame an instacast with the same range can be cast on the run long before you get a chance to use it.

Hehehehhehahahah instastun? that's a new one ... they get a pbaoe mezz that has god awful duration, 4s cast time smites.

Yes the albion classes are interesting unfortunately they're also pretty crap
You can do ok with an albion group, but you have to try so much harder than the other guy to have a chance.

PS: Why do alb have most peeps if it is so dam underpowered..?

because it's Dark Age of Camelot - people look at the box and think 'ooh arthurian' then join Albion because they want a knight of the round table, or their own little Merlin.

Believe it or not there's no in-depth analysis of class versus class performance in RvR in the manual - people find out as they play... generally after they've spent half a year getting to a decent level.

 

[dakeyras]

Originally posted by old.Eternal[EW]


...and on the other side...who cares...delete you're char and switch realm if you don't like it.

Which ones do you want me to delete?

My Hib chars, my Alb chars or my Mid Chars?

My favourite chars are listed in my sig, but like many I have too many alts to realistically list them all here. But the 50's also include a Hero and Ranger.

As for switching realm, I play in all 3 anyway and the only reason I play Alb almost exclusively now (apart from checking out new patches/SI) is because of friends/Guild and the simple fact that it is mind-numbingly boring playing against a Realm that has to try so much harder to succeed.

Far more stimulating playing the underdog.

I hope 1.59 brings the 3 realms into balance. If it doesn't and it overpowers Alb then I will simply take a sabbatical back to Hib/Mid

 

[Kobold]

I have played from US and allso EU beta. And it's been done several changes to the game during this time, it's been a few bugs and few things changed to some classes but I think they've done a good job to balance the game like they have really. Many interresting arguments you have, but I'm in a bit hurry so don't have time for long post now but I know mythinc have some kind of purpuse for most things in the game..and if you look at relics, total rps etc I think it's not that unbalanced. Allso albs have more peeps maybe thats one of the reason alb is a bit "weaker" in some areas like you mean.....but not a reason to whine that much about..play the game like it is, cause it is good

Only thing I don't like so much is all the new uber stuff you can get (SC high RR) and get so high resists...makes mages much more useless...but that haven't anything to do with unbalancing so...