I would like to congratulate..

[Pudzy]

I would like to congratulate Septina =)

 

[Tip]

It was my group that set up the BG for the albion defence, we set it up long before we had any confirmed word on the mids RR for the following reasons.

A few of us had been hunting in odins for well over an hour, the only enemy we were coming across were hibs. For 7.00 on a Sunday this seemed strange, especially when i asked in /gu how many mids were in emain and got the reply only around 1fg. My group decided we had better get up to HW to keep an eye on things.

A stealther in HW spotted 2fg mids coming through MMG and reported it on /as, we set up a BG (it later from guard spam turned out to be 11 mids). I pmed around the alliances to ask them to let me know if any of their keeps gets hit so i could report it into the BG so we can send our forces to attack them. 2FG mids running around in alb frontier usually means a keep is going to be hit.

My group then set off to HW while albs sorted out their defence groups at CS while we waited to hear which keep was getting hit. The 2FG mids had seemed to have dissapeared for a long while. From the info we had there were a lack of mids in all rvr areas apart from our frontier, it was also reported that somebody had spotted 2fg earlier in the day and lost them.

As Albs are naturally paranoid about losing the relics, things were looking very dodgy so we put out an alert that there may be a RR but nothing confirmed yet.

Word came through that there were a lot of mids on sauv road so we thought that might be the force to stop people getting to excal, guard spam told us there were 11, my group turned around to help with the killing and once we finally killed them all it was agreed to regroup at excal till we could confirm if the relics were in danger or not.

My group headed off to HW to keep an eye on MMG while albs regrouped at excal. Cylian started killing people in Sauv, from past experience when i see Cylian in alb frontier it is usually because mids are about to launch a huge attack. A short time later i recieved a PM saying that 100 mids had been sighted in the hib frontier dungeon which i passed onto the BG.

Word began filtering through that PE had guard spam of 133 from Scathaig, it was only then that we were sure we wern't going to be the target, but people were asked to hang on in case Mids failed the RR and tried for Albs.

When mids failed i personally got steam rolled at MMG by what i thought to be around 50 mids but later turned out to be 33 mids.

There was no x-realming involved whatsoever, just some paranoid albs putting 2 and 2 together and acting on their instincts.

Hope this clears things up

Midge

hehe blame cylian <after all he is a mid>

 

[Cylian]

guess albs invented time-and-space-origami ... otherwise your 'explanations' don't work out.

Etaew says, that they camped Excal because a mid group was intercepting their 'reinforcements', just that said Mid group had been wiped before and had joined up with the rest of the raid in SF when Albs started sitting in front of Excal.

now Midge wants to say that they camped Excal because of me ?
good morning! they were already camping there and more trickling in, hence the DMs when I moved to CS to suicide.

but personal favourite:

then someone lvl 21 unguilded guy reported 100 mids in marfach

 

[GrivneKelmorian]

then someone lvl 21 unguilded guy reported 100 mids in marfach..

do you happen to remember the name of that character? if you do please pm it to me here.

 

[Ivan]

guess albs invented time-and-space-origami ... otherwise your 'explanations' don't work out.

Oh come on, why on earth do we have to give You an explanation, we are telling how it was from our side, both what etaew and midge said reflect what was going on in alliance and bg.
Fact is, x-realming did take place but that was not to our benefit as we camped Excal Before we got word of "100 mids spotted near marfach" and "i just talked to XXXX he heard it from his hib friend". And no, i really cannot recall the names of people spouting this. I suppose i should have taken screenies but to what end ?

 

[Etaew]

the name was said in the bg but i cant remember it can anyone in the alb defence bg remember the name?

 

[Shadster]

Its pretty sad if peeps are xrealming kinda takes the fun out of relic raids and stuff, we meaning hibs where lucky remi was xping a artifect or something in marfarch or we would of lost power relics. so cheers dwera for the praise on hibs defending and good work on making a relic raid brings us hibs out to play /salute been a while since relics have been on the move and makes rvr so much more intresting

 

[Oro]

Since I wasn't involved in the early stages of this I'm not sure what was going on and where.

However, got to ask 2 questions.

1) Why didn't Mids do a thorough sweep of Marfach before going there and also while on the move why didn't they have someone sweeping ahead of them the whole time.

2) Why are Albs automatically bad because we've been on a high state of alert for HW and HoC all weekend? Its the first time we've had a reasonable number of relics in some time and everyone has been out on the frontier much more than previously. This is not unusual in any realm that just brought some goodies home.

Not saying there wasn't a blab, but not actually been shown anything conclusive to say there was, or that anything said had any effect on the outcome on any raiding that went on. It seems like the usual guesses, assumptions and random blaming. I hate cheaters and crossrealming, it spoils the game for everyone, but absolutely nobody said anything conclusive or even shown anything remotely resembling evidence. There was a rumour that some Hib player had said something to an Alb player... and thats all I heard. If it happened, ban the buggers. But as said, still not been shown anything that really ties events up.

I'm also slightly at a loss as to what difference in outcome Mids actually think there would have been given they failed to sweep Marfach properly.

Good effort though Mids, prime time into Hib is always really difficult.

 

[GrivneKelmorian]

However, got to ask 2 questions.

1) Why didn't Mids do a thorough sweep of Marfach before going there and also while on the move why didn't they have someone sweeping ahead of them the whole time.

2) Why are Albs automatically bad because we've been on a high state of alert for HW and HoC all weekend? Its the first time we've had a reasonable number of relics in some time and everyone has been out on the frontier much more than previously. This is not unusual in any realm that just brought some goodies home.

1) the hib raid was pretty imrovised, and the 2 hibs exping in marfach was close to entrance.

2) the alb raid wasnt improvised, scouts had been out in albion close to an hour before we even opened bg, i had gotten reports from Onslaught in sauvage during all that time aswell.
But no real activity started to happen after OS had been whiped untill that we had opened the bg and made rr public.

 

[Gabbe]

The hibs for a fast response to kill our relic force in Marfach after killing Rami and his friend exping there.

All the mids for a well done attempt.

The albs for having 3fg+ albs camping excalibur before the Mid relic force had left Svasud Faste.

I have no doubt this was a job done by a cross realmer. And I beg of anyone who knows about this and still dont like cheating ect to provide me any info about anything that was said about a relic raid from midgard between 19.00 - 20.20 cet.

I have asked my realm mates to file a report to GoA to check there server logs of what have been said.

Regards Grivne - Relic Raid leader and angry but proud Midgardian

Cant u just stfu for once?? report when u got proofs u moron.

 

[Pazdan]

2FG's of Onslaught in Alb frontier will get three or more groups of Albions out when we have taken Strength Relics a couple of days before.

Those groups will stay out just incase Onslaught come back or something else is about to happen that Onslaught were the forward sweepers for.

Ain't rocket science.

 

[xxManiacxx]

I only remember last time albs had all 3 str relics. BaF takes renaris. have it over night and the next day we take relics. You didn´t even come and try to retake the keep

Edit: Was 1fg of OS.

 

[Endeelid]

Cant u just stfu for once?? report when u got proofs u moron.

Isn't he trying to get proofs by posting here then and asking ppl if they know anything... ?

 

[Oro]

Aye Grimli, I remember that. I think it was either Midge or Bankmanager that was going daft trying to get people out to retake and not many responded.

I think it was a Friday or Saturday night that the keep was held then sometime on the next morning the RR happened. Wasn't actually online during the RR, found out about it afterwards.

It takes losing something sometimes for people to realise what they had.

<ponders>

Could say that about many things in life really

 

[Addlcove]

It takes losing something sometimes for people to realise what they had.

<ponders>

Could say that about many things in life really

does that mean you miss me?

 

[Oro]

does that mean you miss me?

You really want a public answer to that?

 

[IainC]

From reading logs I can confirm the following:
Somebody did say something they had no legitimate ingame way of knowing. This person will not be playing for a while and will hopefully realise that what he did was unacceptable.
The news he gave was not really a surprise to the experienced players in Albion.
My personal opinion, after review of the various logs is that even had this person not blown the whistle, there would likely have been no difference to the outcome as Albion was on a high state of alert and news of the Mids in Marfachs was being transmitted through legitimate channels long before the Relic Raid came to the Albion Frontier.

Cross-realming is bad but it's not the only way you can lose.

 

[Cylian]

there was no relic raid that came to the Albion frontier.

 

[Ormorof]

hah it was a cross-realmer, silly albs

 

[Tareregion]

From reading logs I can confirm the following:
Somebody did say something they had no legitimate ingame way of knowing. This person will not be playing for a while and will hopefully realise that what he did was unacceptable.
The news he gave was not really a surprise to the experienced players in Albion.
My personal opinion, after review of the various logs is that even had this person not blown the whistle, there would likely have been no difference to the outcome as Albion was on a high state of alert and news of the Mids in Marfachs was being transmitted through legitimate channels long before the Relic Raid came to the Albion Frontier.

Cross-realming is bad but it's not the only way you can lose.

[cartmanvoice] kick ass! [/cartmanvoice]

 

[xxManiacxx]

Thank you for your efforts Requiel.

 

[Brelakor]

Now albs (hi Loch!) HAVE to admit it was a cross-realmer at work x<

 

[Shadster]

O dear /wave to the cross realmer


As requeil said it may not have had anything to do with the outcome of albs defense of the relic but one thing has been learned here play by the rules or not play at all.
Hope the x realmer is pleased with him/her self

 

[Edgar Frog]

You'll need a towel for all that yolk on your face, Loch. Perhaps the singlemost defensive and retarded post creator in this thread.

 

[civy]

Now albs (hi Loch!) HAVE to admit it was a cross-realmer at work x<

And mids have to agree it would have made no difference

And don't bitch at albs. The Cross realmer was also a mid

 

[atos]

Grivne > Random flamers :kissit:

 

[Wholdar]

And mids have to agree it would have made no difference

We dont really know that, since we never aimed the RR at the Albs, because of the 3 fgs albs that moved to Excal before we even left Svasud - we therefore switched target.

The question has been why they even moved there that early - we have been given other explanations than info from x-realmers in the thread though, so we can only speculate. =)

Ahwell, nice that the x-realmer was catched, hopefully the next RR will take place in such a way that noone can even suspect a new x-realmer.

Thanks for your quick look into this, Requiel.

 

[Brelakor]

On another note, is this the first relicraid blabberererrerrrer that has been caught and punished on our server?

Read: Not crossrealmer but relicblabberer.

 

[Profion]

Name and flame the fuck head!!!

 

[Brelakor]

And mids have to agree it would have made no difference

And don't bitch at albs. The Cross realmer was also a mid

Cant really be a real mid when you work actively against them (and the COC) like this really

And we will never know now if it would have made a difference.
But anyhow, there will be more relicraids.