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Cylian

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Loch said:
Aye, I can't read, you're the clever one around here.. what's so hard to understand here? mids were at svasud border keep, yes?.. if albs had anyone outside svasud they might've noticed the lag, yes?.. after PE seeing 133 enemies near scathaig, you'd think that albs would be notified of mids rr'ing, yes? it's not uncommon to trek through marfach/dodens/hotc, yes?.. are you feeling stupid yet? I hope so.

If I've gotten any of the above points wrong, feel free to correct me, but post 'OMG M8 LEARN TO RAED LOL I R0X' and I'll just flame you like the rest of the bandwagon idiots.

rough translation, but maybe you get the meaning, "The one who can read has a clear advantage".

Mids only went to Hib because there were already Albs in Excal just a few min after the raid was made public in Mid.

feeling stupid yet (or still) ?
 

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Afaik some guy reported that there were like 20 mids outside sauvage (funno cuz I couldn't find anything else than just a few stealthers) and then we got reported 1-2fg mids coming thru mmg in Hadrians. After that we got 2 groups to run to Excalibur just in case. Later on more peeps started coming to Excal.


when was this? my guess is about 18.00 cet - about 19.00ish cet.

Onslaught had a rvr event in albion before the raid, they got whiped around 19.00 - 19.20 tho, we opened our bg at around 19.40 - 19.50 i think.
 

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GrivneKelmorian said:
when was this? my guess is about 18.00 cet - about 19.00ish cet.

Onslaught had a rvr event in albion before the raid, they got whiped around 19.00 - 19.20 tho, we opened our bg at around 19.40 - 19.50 i think.

Its hard to belive but we actually stood at excalibur Till they got wiped [they kept moving about and people had hard time locating them as they would just hit n run] and for another 30-40 or so i think.
 

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Cylian said:
rough translation, but maybe you get the meaning, "The one who can read has a clear advantage".

Mids only went to Hib because there were already Albs in Excal just a few min after the raid was made public in Mid.

feeling stupid yet (or still) ?
Aye, so a scout outside svasud would obviously have to be.. later? as I stated in my first post, I haven't been ingame so I don't know the timescale involved (going back on your 'learn to read' post, mayhaps read what I type before trying to pick errors?) so obviously if you redirected a str relic raid to hibs,the scathaig guard report wouldn't apply, but you're still not reading most of what I type, and then still trying to call me illiterate and stupid xD God I love whining mids.
 

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Ivan said:
Its hard to belive but we actually stood at excalibur Till they got wiped [they kept moving about and people had hard time locating them as they would just hit n run] and for another 30-40 or so i think.

there were no albs at the rk before they got whiped. We had cylian sit there and watch it.

But maybe she was playing poker with the guards again.. who knows ;p
 

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GrivneKelmorian said:
But maybe she was playing poker with the guards again.. who knows ;p

maybe she was thinking of witty insults?
 

Cylian

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I won 5g afterall!

...and tell that Hurbury Knight that he still owes me a bottle of Ale!
 

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Wow, relicraid failed and people blame blabbers, how new and refreshing!
 

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GrivneKelmorian said:
there were no albs at the rk before they got whiped. We had cylian sit there and watch it.

But maybe she was playing poker with the guards again.. who knows ;p

Cylian started killing people on cs road when we were already at rk, tried to pick on me in hw later but i /surrendered
 

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Ivan said:
Cylian started killing people on cs road when we were already at rk, tried to pick on me in hw later but i /surrendered

hmm, that was after those 3fg+ Albs set up camp in Excal already and our target changed to Hib ?
 

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Cylian said:
hmm, that was after those 3fg+ Albs set up camp in Excal already and our target changed to Hib ?

i wouldnt even know you were there unless you started killing, we didnt camp ..... zerg driver went on a long long long afk tbh

But this is how it happened chronologically from my group pov <the one that got to camp exc :

we get wiped in emain
decide to have a go in hadrians
spend 20 minutes re-organizing group <read picking people up at random>
go for a run and get wasted by onslaught
release to cs and listen to report of another 2 fg of mids coming through mmgh
people insist on checking excalibur
we camp excalibur
[and we pointlessly camped it till we got word of mids "near" hib hoc, first word we had was from a random reaver lvl 21 as far as i got to know]
then we got word mids failed and came to hw
 

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our alliance had been suspicous all day had reports all throughout the day of a few fgs of mids appearing and then vanishing so we thought something was up.. so when we got a fg spam near renaris we had about 3fg out to defend ... we didnt find tho.. then we heard reports of mids on beno about 1fg.. so we head over there.. we got seperated along the way.. everyone gathered at excal.. by then the fg of mids in sauvage were picking off our reinforcements and hiding.. being very annoying.. so people camped excal to stay safe while we had fgs patrol looking for the mids.. we found them and zerged them .. then we had a report of 30 enemies on beno.. zerg went off in bits .. but the RvR guilds got there first and finished them.. then someone lvl 21 unguilded guy reported 100 mids in marfach.. and then the message was repeated from several sources before we took it seriously.. we camped hoc a bit.. then FL or whoever held scathig reported that mids were on RK from the guardspam..the fg appeared again killing in sauvage so we headed off there.. we zerged them again after a while of hide and seek from then.. we heard that the relic attempt failed in hib and notified our aliances that alb would be next for a hit back.. and so lots of us came HW

thats it to the best of my knowledge..
 

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Derric said:
Wow, relicraid failed and people blame blabbers, how new and refreshing!

Agree... i blame those who likes popcorn :touch:
 

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i know in my case i expected Mids to relic raid today since it always primetime weekend and always a few days after we taken your relics, but what made people go defend was that you failed a relic raid against hibs which meant you would come to our frontier and cause trouble.

But whatever someone crossrealmed i cannot say, but it didnt happen over the /as in Albionguard, we used logic a scary concept :)
 

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It was my group that set up the BG for the albion defence, we set it up long before we had any confirmed word on the mids RR for the following reasons.

A few of us had been hunting in odins for well over an hour, the only enemy we were coming across were hibs. For 7.00 on a Sunday this seemed strange, especially when i asked in /gu how many mids were in emain and got the reply only around 1fg. My group decided we had better get up to HW to keep an eye on things.

A stealther in HW spotted 2fg mids coming through MMG and reported it on /as, we set up a BG (it later from guard spam turned out to be 11 mids). I pmed around the alliances to ask them to let me know if any of their keeps gets hit so i could report it into the BG so we can send our forces to attack them. 2FG mids running around in alb frontier usually means a keep is going to be hit.

My group then set off to HW while albs sorted out their defence groups at CS while we waited to hear which keep was getting hit. The 2FG mids had seemed to have dissapeared for a long while. From the info we had there were a lack of mids in all rvr areas apart from our frontier, it was also reported that somebody had spotted 2fg earlier in the day and lost them.

As Albs are naturally paranoid about losing the relics, things were looking very dodgy so we put out an alert that there may be a RR but nothing confirmed yet.

Word came through that there were a lot of mids on sauv road so we thought that might be the force to stop people getting to excal, guard spam told us there were 11, my group turned around to help with the killing and once we finally killed them all it was agreed to regroup at excal till we could confirm if the relics were in danger or not.

My group headed off to HW to keep an eye on MMG while albs regrouped at excal. Cylian started killing people in Sauv, from past experience when i see Cylian in alb frontier it is usually because mids are about to launch a huge attack. A short time later i recieved a PM saying that 100 mids had been sighted in the hib frontier dungeon which i passed onto the BG.

Word began filtering through that PE had guard spam of 133 from Scathaig, it was only then that we were sure we wern't going to be the target, but people were asked to hang on in case Mids failed the RR and tried for Albs.

When mids failed i personally got steam rolled at MMG by what i thought to be around 50 mids but later turned out to be 33 mids.

There was no x-realming involved whatsoever, just some paranoid albs putting 2 and 2 together and acting on their instincts.

Hope this clears things up

Midge
 

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i would just like to say.. thx to the mids who gave it a go prime time! was very fun! :) too bad that runemaster found a cute little luwi that quick so i died a few times.. but still.. jolly ol fun :)
 

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loch is a newbie, why bother reading his pathetic flames anyway :m00:
 

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Just bad luck mids. As Midge said Albion was sort of waiting on you all weekend. Partly why keeps have been defended/retaken faster than normal.
 

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Albs been waiting for an RR from Mids all weekend. Not unreasonable to have peeps out a lot. There was one against us around 9am or so Saturday morning but to be honest I was surprised there wasn't another since.

I was doing MLs with my cleric but until confirmed RR against us (after HoC etc checked) no real need to rush to the frontier for me. Finished the hunt, wandered out to the frontier.

Still, nice to see a healthy level of general raiding going on :)
 

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Grats Middies on valiant attempt. If not for Rami's warning I reckon you'd have had us.

Nice work to the Hibbies getting there at speed once the alert was given.

Shame on anyone who was cheating. There's some right idiots making it hard for anyone to have a decent laugh in DAoC.
 

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xxManiacxx said:
yes it was very strange hearing from our scouts at sauvage that 3fg runs to excal 10-15min after the RR BG was made public. For over 1 hour it had been no action at all except for an Onslaught grp killing albs near sauvage, then suddenly ppl rush to excal. Afaik Onslaught had been there quite a while before we even started working on the RR so in that case shouldn´t the albs have moved to excal sooner if it is the case they moved there?

as you say, onslaught where near sauvage, we went to HW at about 6pm GMT and killed a few people on the way there, once we got there, we killed 2gf (we had 10people, only 8where active 2 where bots yey for us :) ), but we did NOT see any people after that at all, one of our scouts went down to have a look (about 6:20) nothing there, but once we got killed (6:55pm) , by 3fg, the scout we had said there was about 4 more fg ready to move out

also, at the same time as doing this, my friend who was on hib side looking what was going on said there was at least 4fg rdy and more turning up every second, and this was within 5mins of the RR BG going public, therefore i belive that there MUST be foul play here some where, imo NAME AND SHAME i belive that if there was no foul play, we would have done the RR and had a keep or two to go with it.
 

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Midge said:
Word came through that there were a lot of mids on sauv road so we thought that might be the force to stop people getting to excal, guard spam told us there were 11, my group turned around to help with the killing and once we finally killed them all it was agreed to regroup at excal till we could confirm if the relics were in danger or not.

just to point out that was us ( onslaught ) at 6:30 over 30mins b4 our RR BG went public
 
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