I-RvR and relics

[Sollers]

I was just wondering, didn't we have some sort of unwritten rule since I-rvr has become so popular which says that if an enemy realm is 'kind' enough to allow I-rvr in their territory, you shouldn't be messing with their relics?

...and even if there is no such rule yet, which I hardly doubt, shouldn't we make one this very instance? Because honoustly, zerging your happy ass off for a week because mids allow 2 keeps to be taken from them, only to gank their relics when you and your fellow guildies have enough of the endless farming while standing in FoP, PN, SW and DD storms right next to a level 10 tower you can run to when aggroed is about the lamest thing you can do.

 

[Phake]

i agree ... this is just so annoying tbh .. dont understand why you guys want an unbalanced game .. :/

 

[Corran]

I was just wondering, didn't we have some sort of unwritten rule since I-rvr has become so popular which says that if an enemy realm is 'kind' enough to allow I-rvr in their territory, you shouldn't be messing with their relics?

...and even if there is no such rule yet, which I hardly doubt, shouldn't we make one this very instance? Because honoustly, zerging your happy ass off for a week because mids allow 2 keeps to be taken from them, only to gank their relics when you and your fellow guildies have enough of the endless farming while standing in FoP, PN, SW and DD storms right next to a level 10 tower you can run to when aggroed is about the lamest thing you can do.

Never been such agreement.. guessing albs took mid relic but not looked yet... so really there can not be much complaints. Last time was IRvR in hib mids went and took their relics and spewed the 24hr game crap, and the likes of Atos were going "haha we rock, and we will do it again".

 

[Golena]

I was just wondering, didn't we have some sort of unwritten rule since I-rvr has become so popular which says that if an enemy realm is 'kind' enough to allow I-rvr in their territory, you shouldn't be messing with their relics?

They haven't been kind enough to allow IRVR in their realm for a week, they've been too lazy to take the keep back.. there is a difference.

IRVR in mid has sucked, I blame the mids for being lazy leading to the last week of boredom in rvr. Them losing their relics is fine for me, and no, I wasn't there.

 

[AngelHeal]

ah for fuck sake

when will you ever learn:

YOU ARE NOT EACHOTHERS FRIENDS!
NOR SHOULD YOU RESPECT EACHOTHER IN RVR!

ok i'll try to say this how p. barnett ussually says this: THIS GAME IS A EXCUSE TO BLAST THE HELL OUT OF EACHOTHER



..wow i feel much better

 

[Raven]

only complete degenerates hate other people because they picked a different realm at the start, i have many friends in other realms, many i have never even spoken to. emotes have become a whole new language of <3

 

[Sollers]

They haven't been kind enough to allow IRVR in their realm for a week, they've been too lazy to take the keep back.. there is a difference.

Why would that make more sense than mids being lenient because the DAoC community prefers I-RvR nowadays because population numbers are declining and boating is just horrible?

 

[AngelHeal]

only complete degenerates hate other people because they picked a different realm at the start, i have many friends in other realms, many i have never even spoken to. emotes have become a whole new language of <3

me2, but i get tired of people making 'rules' all the time.

 

[Golena]

Why would that make more sense than mids being lenient because the DAoC community prefers I-RvR nowadays because population numbers are declining and boating is just horrible?

Because a percentage of the DAoC community prefers I-RVR doesn't mean that those that don't should pack their bags and stop playing.

Personally I found I-RVR in mid to be a waste of time. I could either go stand with the duelers at beno and get a fight vs a opted with everything up RR10 guy once every 20 mins or go zerg things for 20rp's meights in mid.
If some mids chose to be lenient that was their choice, it doesn't mean the albs that dont want I-RVR there should refrain from doing what they enjoy tho surely?
Past experience has shown that if you leave I-RVR in your realm for a long time then someone will eventually go for the relics, as it's happened everytime in the past. What mids proved was that farming easy RP's from the solo zerg of albs was more important to them than keeping the relics, which seems to be the current state of the game unfortunately.

I'd be much happier if they just fixed the crappy design of NF ofc, but that's unlikely to happen

 

[Golena]

only complete degenerates hate other people because they picked a different realm at the start, i have many friends in other realms, many i have never even spoken to. emotes have become a whole new language of <3

It's not about hating them tho is it..

When was the last time you logged onto a counterstrike server and got blasted for shooting a guy on the opposite team cos he was a mate.
I've never once gone to a quake lan party with my mates and had a big argument cos someone shot someone else with a rocket launcher!

While the "don't kill my mates" philosophy was fun for a bit.. it really is starting to get out of hand now, seeing an emeny doesn't mean.. ooh a fight.. it's ooh can I hit this one without someone calling me a retard.

 

[vavires]

reading this means we lost our relics? /yay and the raids wer eonly planned for tonight ^^. O well mayb ethe mids(us) will get a grip of things again.

And yes i dont blaim the albs for taking them, its a war!

 

[Raven]

It's not about hating them tho is it..

When was the last time you logged onto a counterstrike server and got blasted for shooting a guy on the opposite team cos he was a mate.
I've never once gone to a quake lan party with my mates and had a big argument cos someone shot someone else with a rocket launcher!

While the "don't kill my mates" philosophy was fun for a bit.. it really is starting to get out of hand now, seeing an emeny doesn't mean.. ooh a fight.. it's ooh can I hit this one without someone calling me a retard.

it has nothing to do with not hitting them, we always fight, its knowing how piss annoying it is to have someone join in on a decent 1v1 from whichever realm its just sad that some people are so desperate for RPs that they have to spoil it for others

...anyway, this isnt yet another add whine thread its a relic whine thread, small difference

 

[Labello]

YOU ARE NOT EACHOTHERS FRIENDS!

I don't aggree, i find it verry fun to cooperate with an enemie to kill another enemie.
Let me give you an exempel:
Albs where camping a bridge and added on every singel fight i was in.
As i whan't to have control of the bridge and revenge for adding, i hade to find a partner to succeed with my goal.
Suddenly there was a Warlock there witch whanted to kill albs as well, so we grped upp and tryed to take it back, even tho i hate casters, but i hate those that added on me even more.

NOR SHOULD YOU RESPECT EACHOTHER IN RVR!

Why shud i not respect my enemie?
If i see a solo with low hp hiding somewear, i usualy just walk past him.
But if hes on a rvr active area, then hes asking for it
I meet a stealther a couple of days ago with 80% on a bridge, ofc i will kill him, he shoud be hiding if he don't whan't to fight with 80%.

THIS GAME IS A EXCUSE TO BLAST THE HELL OUT OF EACHOTHER

I aggree, it's lovely.
we just have differen't playstyle.

 

[Shafu]

I think it's sad that we've gotten to a point where iRvR > realm pride, but I certainly dont blame players for this. Just another wonderful aspect of NF.

 

[Foo]

Pay my subs and i would gladly play how you want me to .

 

[Golena]

...anyway, this isnt yet another add whine thread its a relic whine thread, small difference

Not really.. it's the philosophy that we need to ask for the enemy's permission before attacking something.

Before taking a tower we now need to file plans for the tower take a week in advance, let people vote on if taking the tower is ok, schedule a time during which the tower take is allowed to happen. Otherwise you run the risk of getting flamed as clueless by the leet groups who find their soloers killed per hour drops.

Next we are going to have log-in polls...

are the albs allowed to retake beno 3 today?
{yes}
{no}
{only if my warlock is on the oil}

It's getting to a point where I actually believe that the vast majority of the population would actually be far happier if everyone just played in thid. I'm guessing the only reason they actually don't is because they couldn't get past 1l4 so there would be no way to demonstrate their huge epeens to everyone else.

Yes 1v1's and 8v8's are all very fun, maybe i'm in the minority that believes that losing the entire spirit of the game (i.e. the realm war) to allow it to happen really wasn't a good thing. People keep shouting about how great OF was. What was different about OF wasn't the terrain, it was the players attitudes towards other players and the game. Now simply mentioning the way we played back then is enough to get you crucified. Times move on sure, but sometimes you have to realise that it's not moving on in a good way.

 

[swords]

Taking the relics in the wee hours of the morning was kinda lame though
And yeah Sollers is an l33t b0i who just can't get enough solo ganking in the day

 

[Foo]

Taking the relics in the wee hours of the morning was kinda lame though
And yeah Sollers is an l33t b0i who just can't get enough solo ganking in the day

Its a 24/7 game m8. Just cause ppl dont play at your times.

 

[AngelHeal]

I don't aggree, i find it verry fun to cooperate with an enemie to kill another enemie.
Let me give you an exempel:
Albs where camping a bridge and added on every singel fight i was in.
As i whan't to have control of the bridge and revenge for adding, i hade to find a partner to succeed with my goal.
Suddenly there was a Warlock there witch whanted to kill albs as well, so we grped upp and tryed to take it back, even tho i hate casters, but i hate those that added on me even more.

That's surviving under difficult circumstances. xD

Why shud i not respect my enemie?
If i see a solo with low hp hiding somewear, i usualy just walk past him.
But if hes on a rvr active area, then hes asking for it
I meet a stealther a couple of days ago with 80% on a bridge, ofc i will kill him, he shoud be hiding if he don't whan't to fight with 80%.

I'am not telling you what to do, though im sure he'll add on you if ur fighting someone else. anyway, it's rvr, not 1v1

I aggree, it's lovely.
we just have differen't playstyle.

Indeed, we don't need to folloe eachothers rules/ideals

 

[swords]

Its a 24/7 game m8. Just cause ppl dont play at your times.

24/7 game yes, but you alone control your actions. If you prefer to fight NPC's for the relics then go for it, but it's hardily a challenge is it?

 

[>.< Pooned]

try play another game m8 this isnt suitable with ur law's

mids never let something happend they just couldnt do shit about it in the other hand hibs let us irvr in their territory yes

mid players (most of em not all)

are lame gimps that they do whatever is possible for their own shake

nothing ilegal here either but u cant talk for keep an irvr without relic raid solid when the other realm doesnt help it with its past reactions like

mids get a keep in hib mids doing RR 1-2 days after
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[Tuppe]

Because a percentage of the DAoC community prefers I-RVR doesn't mean that those that don't should pack their bags and stop playing.

Personally I found I-RVR in mid to be a waste of time. I could either go stand with the duelers at beno and get a fight vs a opted with everything up RR10 guy once every 20 mins or go zerg things for 20rp's meights in mid.
If some mids chose to be lenient that was their choice, it doesn't mean the albs that dont want I-RVR there should refrain from doing what they enjoy tho surely?
Past experience has shown that if you leave I-RVR in your realm for a long time then someone will eventually go for the relics, as it's happened everytime in the past. What mids proved was that farming easy RP's from the solo zerg of albs was more important to them than keeping the relics, which seems to be the current state of the game unfortunately.

I'd be much happier if they just fixed the crappy design of NF ofc, but that's unlikely to happen

hmm must agree, thou dont agree mids farmng albs.
there was/is trend where albs got killed x time, they rise up zerg aka gather 40-60 peeps and move around like new lovers, sticked each others butt.
at this point when mids start get steamrolled and have 0 change to response, situations start get nasty.

we have tryed, atleast i have been nearly 10 raids? to takenott back but allways albs numbers are alott bigger what ours, range differency dont make it easier.
albs just raze tower and when tower goes down theres zerg nuking helpless mids
atm rvr taste pure crap, have been same too long.

allso when schools etc having holliday atm dont make situation better, theres allways peeps up.
think we as mids have small change get relic back when schools start again and peeps need get bed before 5am
have played this game from day 1 and allways situation been same, albs numbers rise dramatically up in summer, dunno if they play more? but theres alott more active players overall from morning to night what other seasons.
need just try survive or give up and come back after few months.

 

[swords]

Its been in Midgard too long realy, needs to come back to Albion.

 

[Jarroman]

skip the irvr part, it will give agramon live.


gratz albs on relics ~ u had the chance, u did it. sad to say but perhaps this could wake us mids up a bit so in a way... thnx!


ps: in the very end, u made the game move a bit from the "static" situation the last couple of weeks

 

[Ucallme]

I think it's sad that we've gotten to a point where iRvR > realm pride, but I certainly dont blame players for this. Just another wonderful aspect of NF.

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Shabazz - Warrior
Diunn - Valkyrie
Tiunn - Healer

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OMG its Shabazz from Big Brother is it really you???

Amph

 

[Puppet]

Bram, honestly.. do you think Steven Seagal would ever ask such a question?

 

[swords]

Thats different, cos Midgard would have stolen his Niece and he'd have to get the relics so he could pay chuck norris to roundhouse kick them and get her back.

 

[AngelHeal]

Bram, honestly.. do you think Steven Seagal would ever ask such a question?

ofcourse, he's here to help, and since most of the town does like him being here, i'd suggest that you stop dumping ur green toxic in these mines, and get the hell out of here befor someone gets hurt.

And don't try to arrest me, you know I can arrest you just as simple, and have 100 people from the FBI scanning these area's within 5 hours.

..evil person: Oh yeah?

seagal: SMACK BAM KADANG!
/grabs whoopass stick

swoof bam kadang swing!!!

5-0 chuck norris (edit: seagal, lol old habits never diexD)
local police arives;

what hapend here?

Surrounders: didn't see anything

police: oki bayyyyy

 

[Vodkafairy]

no, you can never get such an agreement with so many diverse playstyles.

there is a lot of people who enjoy a zergy situation, and creating irvr makes sure all that zerging is confined to one area (mostly). other zones are good for other playstyles in such cases.

no irvr = rvr population drops by about 80%, the few who are left camp bridges at the main keeps and rvr is complete shit for everyone.

exception is sunday/monday when there are a lot of groups out that can go agramon.

(ps, angelheal, you're really not funny)

 

[swords]

Thing is, if you have iRvR somewhere and it is possible to navigate away from the main zerg clusters its realy nice Fg v Fg rvr and you can also get soloers out and about round there too (not a soloer so cant confirm but i've seen them about dueling). It was nice for a time when Hibs had port to act as a counter to any one realm getting too big for their boots and letting all realms Fg's run about trying to gank each other in odd places. The zerglings got their keep sieges and bridge camping in and you'd hope everyone could play their own way without too much fuss.
Now hibs dont have port its only albs and mids moving between Nott and Bled, a very small area and no real Fg fighting