Hunters,rangers And Scouts Answer This

[VidX]

Blah attacks you with his bow!
The blow is absorbed by a magical barrier!
You are hit for X damage!

Hands up how many people with bladeturns have seen something like this?

Cause I have seen it ALOT, and I usually pay close attention to my log due to having my pet set on Defensive.

 

[Jenna.]

I've seen it alot also... but I'm a runie so I'm nerfed, guess my BT is gimped with holes or something

 

[old.willowywicca]

I see this all the time at keep takes, the npc archers do it all the time, haven't seen anyone do it in rvr tho.. but then I don't always have a bt on me

Mal

 

[Jenna.]

It's also fun that archers can shoot you through walls

You stand on some mmg 0.1 meter from a "safespot (like a wall or something).
You have pbt on (not bt).
Someone mezzes you (pbt wears off).
Archer hit you for 700+ (no pbt at all).
You instantly move behind the wall, still... the damn archer will hit you with a second arrow. You take totally ~1100 dmg and die if you're a gimp.

 

[Spamb0t]

this thread is
some of u really should play some archer class :sleeping:

and jenna its the same as with bolts....

 

[Tranquil-]

The first Archer shot will be absorbed by PBT since the only thing that happens with pulsing bladeturn is that it updates, it doesn't go on and off, it updates, in case it has been taken out.

An archer penetrating BT, hm, sounds like a bug to me, or he has some arrows I'd like to try . An equal lvl character should have no chance to penetrate BT. Iirc.

And the reason people seem to shoot through corners is because they target you when visible, if you move away and their action is still happening(drawing bow, knocking an arrow) they will attain the last LOS. There is no last check on line of sight. This is especially a problem during lag. And as Spambot says, it also happens with bolts.

And Mattshanes, if someone hit you for that damage, get some resists, hp and con gear.

An archer who goes for tanks at a higher lvl is comitting suicide. Shield tanks = Engage(99% chance to block arrow at shieldspec 7) Even without engage and no shield spec there is a 30% base chance to block arrows if you go into combat mode and select the attacker facing his direction. Tanks also have high absorbs so they won't do that high damage against them. Combine this with high hp and you can see why archers won't kill tanks.

 

[Frair]

There is ALLWAYS chance to penetrate BT, though against equal con is very very small. Critshot raises that chance a little, still not too much. Sigh.. i would like to have some style shot, that tooks few secs, you will become visible but you will be able to critshot and penetrate like assassins backstabs

 

[Levin the Blue]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes
I definetly didn't have 2 archers shooting at me,also it happened to the theurg next to me he died one hit and straight through his pbt oh well i just hope they sort these RAs out too.

I'm the Theurgist who died just next to you, Matt, and just a couple of seconds before you.

It seemed odd to me too, but my system window was too full of other spam that i never got a good look on it (and i was too tired to scroll back). So i can't say exactly what happened, but i didn't see more than one arrow coming at me, and it killed me, despite my PBT being up and running.

 

[Jenna.]

Originally posted by Spamb0t


and jenna its the same as with bolts....

Whats the same with bolts?

 

[Spamb0t]

Originally posted by Jenna.
It's also fun that archers can shoot you through walls

You stand on some mmg 0.1 meter from a "safespot (like a wall or something).
You have pbt on (not bt).
Someone mezzes you (pbt wears off).
Archer hit you for 700+ (no pbt at all).
You instantly move behind the wall, still... the damn archer will hit you with a second arrow. You take totally ~1100 dmg and die if you're a gimp.

thats the same as with bolts.. u can "shoot em through walls"

 

[Chole]

Interesting to see so much more gets added to the point you trying to make

Matt m8, Archer classes can, and do have shots that get past PBT(6sec)
from what I noticed other day at a Mid keep, I was being hit about every 4-5 shot by the Mid archer on battlements

Tho I have never been 1 shooted by an Archer (2 sometimes, useually 3)

 

[Dook_Pug]

You cannot shoot other people with bolts in the same way that Archers can.

If an Archer obtains LOS at any time, he can release the arrow aslong as you're in range even if you have moved behind 3 walls.

With bolts you only release the bolt if the target is still in sight the moment the bolt would have been released. If by that time they've moved behind a wall the bolt will not cast.

 

[old.Mitsu]

Archers solo very well in pve - yellows die with 4 arrows and a little slap with the dagger.
The problem is they have nothing to offer a group that some other class cant do better

I've only tried shooting through bladeturn on greys - most greencon and upwards absorb the first arrow always.

 

[cHodAX]

Let me chip in this, PBT can be pierced by arrows. Alot seems to be dependent on your level of points in Earth, for instance since the day I hit 50 Earth it has never been pierced but before that it happened on about 5% of shots depending on the attacker. People with 50 in bow tend to pierce alot more unless you are 50 Earth or higher. Even if PBT saves you on the first shot you are shit out of luck 90% of the time on the second shot as level 50 crafted bows are superb and have a nice draw time. Archers are a casters worst enemy unless you have a pet and it can hit the archer before he gets shot number three off, if he does you are dead end of story.

 

[old.Jeriraa]

Originally posted by Dook_Pug
You cannot shoot other people with bolts in the same way that Archers can.

If an Archer obtains LOS at any time, he can release the arrow aslong as you're in range even if you have moved behind 3 walls.

With bolts you only release the bolt if the target is still in sight the moment the bolt would have been released. If by that time they've moved behind a wall the bolt will not cast.

This is not true. If I ready my bow (auto-fire and reload) and the target is out of LOS I'll get the msg 'You can't see your target. You ready your bow... You are ready to fire. You can't see your target!'. If I have LOS, ready my bow and the target moves out of LOS before I get the 'You are ready to fire.' msg I'll get the 'You can't see your target!' and can not fire.
To fire at a target I have to have a LOS at the very moment I release the arrow!

Edit: If you were talking about the fact that I can hold my shot for a couple of seconds to wait for LOS and fire then you are right. I can do that but IF I do that I'll be dead or interupted before the target moves into LOS in 90% of the cases.


About bladeturn: I've never penetrated a bladeturn but I'm not 50. (There might be 1 case where I 1-hitted a green con stealther in a group of high con casters. He might have had pbt. But I don't know about that for sure.)
You casters were our favourite target before the archer nerfing began. We were designed to hunt and kill you before you can act against our tanks. Your whining made Mythic add PBT to more classes then they had planned. Your whining made them increase our draw times in several patches. Your whining made them reduce our damage cap in several patches. Your whining made them take a way our stealth.
Beside that we never got any improvments. Volley and Longshot were planned to be given at a certain skill lvl of bow. Now we would have to buy them for realm skill points. Beside that they are totaly useless on a 15/30 minute timer.

Matt if you have logs to prove that your BT was pierced 2 times on the initial hit by the same player send them to GOA. This guy might have a bugged bow or the game math was fucked up with the last patch or he might even use an unknown kind of cheat.

But stop the fucking 'ARCHERS ARE UBER BCZ THEY KILLED ME WITH 1 SHOT' Thats what we were intended to do! Now we can't do shit without a group bcz of all the caster whining while you can still go around, mezz/root smaller groups and nuke them to death one by one on your own.

 

[old.Whismerill]

hmm you can also back-stab those dam archers :]

Jenna me love when will we meet as in the past in Emain ? You tinny butts missing my main : Haazheel Thorn. And appart mezzing poor hibs under Legion, I think you could do my diner !

 

[Nemesis Warlock]

My God ppl, this is ridiculous...

Go lvl an archer and play him... or stop talking about it.

 

[erl]

Hmm, still haven't gotten it clear if you actually did see the "the blow penetrates your magical barrier" or not.

 

[old.mattshanes]

Nope didn't see that message oh well nevermind i got other chars to get to 50 and one is near it.

 

[erl]

If you care anymore I think one of the following thing happened then:

1. The BT you had on was pulsing from an other theurgist, he died and your pulse disappeared before the archer shot you.

2. The archer simply fired 2 crit shots, the first bounced on your bt but you didn't notice it (no sound or anything to show you're hit, only the message that your bt goes away). The second crit shot hit you and dropped you.

GL with your other chars and see you in emain

 

[old.mattshanes]

It was my bt and i do notice when i have been hit

Yeah you will see my other char in rvr now and again,needs 50 really though even though he done ok last night with the shitloads of hp hes got unlike matt

 

[angrysquirrel]

ranger sees cloth, ranger uses /face, ranger lines up crit shot..ranger discovers mages has blade turn..ranger hides, restealths, lines up crit shot on said mage again...ranger hits for XXX dmg, hits again, ranger says Ha! then runs..


it happens, dont get annoyed about it. i could equally write,

i stand at amg, mage hits me 8000000000000000 dmg and kills my entire group......

so to answer your question, can we break bt? yes we can.


have fun

 

[old.mattshanes]

Can i hide round corners waiting for a hunters skull to smash?

YES I CAN