How under populated is VS

[SilverHood]

no one wants to fight TR because they're overpowered

NC are much more fun (and killable)

 

[[PS]Nova]

Originally posted by SilverHood
no one wants to fight TR because they're overpowered

NC are much more fun (and killable)

He has a point!

 

[Faeldawn]

Originally posted by SilverHood
no one wants to fight TR because they're overpowered

NC are much more fun (and killable)

As an NC i prefer to fight Vanu, they arent as brain-dead as the general TR grunts. Vanu seem to be a lot more tactically minded and therefore more of a challenge to fight.

Pretty sure if you asked a TR player what Outflank meant you would get a vacant look

 

[[PS]Nova]

Originally posted by Faeldawn
Pretty sure if you asked a TR player what Outflank meant you would get a vacant look

Hell, if you asked me what Outflank meant you'd get a vacant look

But then again, my job is to follow orders

 

[Scooba Da Bass]

TR AA max = pain pain pain pain pain pain

 

[[PS]Nova]

Originally posted by Scooba Da Bass
TR AA max = pain pain pain pain pain pain

Any TR MAX = pain pain pain pain pain pain to me

 

[old.Dillinja]

Bleh stop the TR bashing.

 

[Faeldawn]

Originally posted by old.Dillinja
Bleh stop the TR bashing.

Its ok m8, there arent enough left playing the game to make a fuss

 

[bone_idle]

Originally posted by [PS]Angel
Nice going!

And yes, our tactics are superior to the NC and TR simple "zerg4tehwin!"

VS seem to have gone for the "zerg4tehwin" tactic now i see. As i ve said in another post. Either im in the wrong place at the wrong time or just unlucky. Everywhere i go i see purple.

Its getting nasty now. I had to log earlier yesterday because my squad logged because there wasnt enough TR's to help out. This was about 4pm yesterday afternoon. And i was getting fed up of being killed quickly everywhere i went.

Saying that though, I had a blast last night. I was in an outfit group. Made 2 BR's. TR's seem to be late night players. More log on after 10pm.

 

[Rigon-Noir-]

Why do people always talk about "zergs", i'm a bit confused as to why some people seem so upset (ok, upset may not be the right word, try annoyed maybe instead) about the "zerg". If by "zerg" you mean we mange to get large amounts of troops to hotspots or seem to communicate when trying to lock down a continent then ok, we zerg, but i thought that was one of the points of Planetside anyway.

90% of Vanu assaults or defenses i've been involved in have gone really well, im not saying they were succesfull, sometimes we just didn't pull it off but they were good becuase there seems to be an air of teamwork within the Vanu realm (are they called realms, where's that instruction book ). I don't know what it's like for TR or NC but i played Terran in beta and sometimes people just couldn't get a squad, i thought it was a bit ridiculous tbh. I joined Vanu on release for a couple of reasons and i'm glad i did.

Are we the lowest population, i don't know if we are im sure someone does but i'll give you some examples of why i think were working well (even if are underpowered (i dont know if we are and i'm sorry, i dont know shit about MAX units :S). if i leave a vehicle anywhere, it gets repaired, people run past trying to heal/repair you, hackers open terms for everyone, everybody just seems to be making life easier for everyone else. Of course, this makes everyone else play the same way so i think the VS is heading in the right direction. I don't know if TR or NC work the same, not sure if it works the same on any other servers (didn't notice it happening in beta but i wasnt looking for it tbh), if they do and it does then thats great. my point is, today, Sunday the 1st. when lots of people from all sides are on and we managed 4 continent lock downs (even went for more but didn't sustain the lock downs), can't manage that sort of stuff if like someone said, your all running off in your own directions.

hehe, sorry for boring you all, just got my BW account back on so wanting to post something

ps: ok, Silverhood, i only came to Vanu to see if you could keep me ammused again

pps: Great to see the UKDentists in PS, even better they are Vanu


Noir BR10 Adv Hack/Infil/Reaver/AMS
Rigon BR6 Spec Assault/Eng

Serving WRK and The Vanu Sovereignty

 

[kelbenvc]

Some call it zerg others call it organisation


Kelben
CR4 BR14
Co leader of Vanu corp

 

[Old_Bean]

Lets face it, all military strategists would prefer numerical superiority.
It's not as if they're gonna say, "No, no, no! I will not charge that large force with an even bigger force. 3 men should be enough!"

Best tactic, get a huge ammount of bodies and hurl lead at the enemy until they stop moving.

Phear the zerg, it will pwn yu! (Or whatever it is you kids say)

 

[old.ivan]

Originally posted by mung
Lets face it, all military strategists would prefer numerical superiority.
It's not as if they're gonna say, "No, no, no! I will not charge that large force with an even bigger force. 3 men should be enough!"

Best tactic, get a huge ammount of bodies and hurl lead at the enemy until they stop moving.

Phear the zerg, it will pwn yu! (Or whatever it is you kids say)

Not really, i would prefer air and artillery support to numerical superiority. There are historical examples to that.

 

[[PS]Nova]

Yeah, air and artillery support is lacking also in our outfit, although I think we're starting to see more air support lately..

And I have to agree with some of the points here, especially that zerging is the best way to win - yes, if you have more troops than the enemy, it's easier to win, especially if you're communicating and directing them.

However, part, if not most, of the fun of this game for me is fighting, so when there's 50,000 VS in a base, I'd rather move on and try and find some resistance somewhere even if that does mean I'll get killed.

Was fun one moment yesterday, scouting out an abandoned base that we were going to hack as soon as the lattice was clear. A Harasser came pegging it into the base past me, firing the chaingun or whatever they have. Barely peppered me and stopped just behind me, so I shot him several times, catching the driver as he jumped out. The gunner was long gone, I thought, until I got shot once, and saw him hiding behind some cover just to my left. He thought he was safe, hiding behind there, but tank cannon shells are area effect splash damage, so he didn't take much to kill I know it wasn't much of a fight, lightning versus them, but I still felt good

 

[ViscountC]

When I've seen them in action, NC seem to have the edge in terms of doing things in the right order - establish air superiority, use air-to-groud fire for suppression, drop in the first wave from Gals, and follow it up with a ground assault timed to hit as any defenders are distracted by the airborne assault.

VS seems to lack Gals and Reavers at the moment, and any sense of tactical planning more detailed than "Let's all hit Verica next".

 

[[PS]Nova]

True.

Although the other day was funny, terrans hotdropped an entire squad from a gal on to a base...

...with 5,000 VS in it.

I mean, did they not see the immense number of red dots or what?

Needless to say, they didn't last long

 

[Saturnine]

As I've seen it..

TR = Lots of people with lots of guns firing rediculous quantites of bullets in tiny amounts of time driving lots of vehicles with obscene amounts of armour. They even escort their ANTs sometimes and go about in little patrols with low flying aircraft.
Weapons are very high damage and their max's have unnessisary amounts of armour. However, as they don't do much dmg.per.individual.shot, fast moving and dodging against them works wonders.

NC = Lots of people with even bigger guns firing highly explosive annoying-as-hell things driving sluggish vehicles that 1-shot-kill MAX's. Again however, ducking about and keeping back from them is the key. The most annoying thing about this empire is half their players seem to like flying around in reavers. Fortunatilly, the Vanu have the best anti-air max.

VS = If you run in guns-ablazing, you'll die. 9 times out of 10. However, being able to flick between anti-infanty and anti-armour damage instantaniously, as well as superior range from fractional weapon kickback are both tactical advantages that the other sides can't match. Straifing tanks, when used carefully, are stronger than the sluggish handling from the tougher, track-driven ones, and MAX's being able to jump up onto base walls or over barriers alows for much handyness.
Main drawbacks are of course, mostly very fragile and no massive damage output. So tactics and skill are of greater need, this seems to have attracted most of the skillfull/tactfull players to this empire because for our population, we're arguably the best on the server

(and mowhaha at evil posts with lots of words that nobody ever reads:sleeping: )

 

[[PS]Nova]

If you mean that post, I just read it all

And I agree to some extent, except that I think you're not giving the superior fire-rate and superior damage of the (respectively) TR and NC enough credit.

I know that if you go in guns blazing with VS you will die, but if you're up against even a remotely organised TR or NC squad, a VS player will still have problems no matter how careful he is...

IMO of course.

 

[Saturnine]

(another post to encourge awakeness )

The best vanu tactic so far is to over-whelm poorly defended areas, the low resistance gets upset and goes of somewhere else, more small resistance arrives... gets wiped.. etc etc... By the time they eventally get their act together most of the island is vanu and our large number of (stealth)hackers makes re-establishing a foothold pretty tricky. Brawl at base, Brawl at base, hack, VS-win, xp cha-ching, island locked VS... hooray
- While starting off slow, towards the last few bases once the enemy builds up, the XP is simply yummy.

 

[[PS]Nova]

Originally posted by Saturnine
(another post to encourge awakeness )

The best vanu tactic so far is to over-whelm poorly defended areas, the low resistance gets upset and goes of somewhere else, more small resistance arrives... gets wiped.. etc etc... By the time they eventally get their act together most of the island is vanu and our large number of (stealth)hackers makes re-establishing a foothold pretty tricky. Brawl at base, Brawl at base, hack, VS-win, xp cha-ching, island locked VS... hooray
- While starting off slow, towards the last few bases once the enemy builds up, the XP is simply yummy.

True. But sometimes you do that, and the expected resistence just does not materialise, and you end up locking the continent without any resistence whatsoever which is a bit boring, for me anyhow.

It's happened to SG groups more than once. Maybe all the TR and NC just ph33r us.

 

[Saturnine]

I'm not wanting to start a debate on which empire is the most organised or anything - Just saying the way VS stuff works, its almost encouraged to be a bit more devious than point and fire, point and fire, point and fire, charge, point and fire (etc.)

 

[[PS]Nova]

Originally posted by Saturnine
I'm not wanting to start a debate on which empire is the most organised or anything - Just saying the way VS stuff works, its almost encouraged to be a bit more devious than point and fire, point and fire, point and fire, charge, point and fire (etc.)

OK yeah I agree with that. You do have to be a bit more tactical with VS.

 

[[PS]Mung]

Yeah, no spray and pray with VS, it's jump and lump with them.

 

[[PS]Nova]

Originally posted by [PS]Mung
Yeah, no spray and pray with VS, it's jump and lump with them.

Unfortunately I don't seem to have quite grasped that, as I do really stick to spray and pray and die horribly.

Still, it's all in the name of fun!