DaGaffer
Down With That Sorta Thing
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Useful site:www.howtovote.co.uk - ended up telling me what I expected, but still useful if you're undecided
cite?Damini said:Hey Clown, why don't you give me your postal ballot form, and I will personally make sure you dont vote!
This election is fixed anyway. The corner stone of any democracy is the freedom to vote, and have that vote count. Labour turns a blind eye to vote rigging because in the over whelming majority of times it benefits them. We invade Iraq because of illegal weapons, sorry, because of failure to comply to UN resolutions, sorry, because he is a BAD MAN and also because he is a DICTATOR that denies people a fair vote and invades countries, and, hey... doesn't that strike anyone else as vaguely familiar?
I got a funny e-mail the other day. It implored me to vote. It said that Tony Blair has the blood of thousands of dead civilians on his hands. It said he started an illegal war, and lied to us, and that thousands of people have died because of him. But hey, concluded this completely serious e-mail, at least he isn't a Tory. It comes to something when people seriously believe it is better to have the blood of innocents on your hands than be conservative. It comes to something when everyone knows votes are being fixed, and we just shrug and do nothing about it. Dirty, dirty, dirty election.
Tilda said:cite?
Lou, I dont want to pick an argument, but from what i've seen, other than the Birmingham case, there hasnt been any cases of vote rigging.
I'd be interested to see what evidence you have for this claim
Tilda
BRITAIN’S most experienced election monitor has criticised the government for failing to clamp down on electoral fraud, which he believes is a problem in up to 20 cities.
Bruce George, a senior Labour MP in the last parliament and former president of the parliamentary assembly of the Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE), which oversees elections around the world, said he could not rule out fraud affecting the general election result.
George, who oversaw the recent controversial Ukrainian elections, said: “I think we need to have an inquiry and then introduce legislation to minimise the risks of fraud in Birmingham, Blackburn and 15 to 20 other cities where I am aware that cheating is taking place.
I want to raise quickly in the short time that I have left a couple of issues that have emerged recently in my constituency. It is painful to say it, but after the 2004 local and European elections, there was some concern about the possibility that large numbers of postal votes were not all done correctly. That is certainly a concern that I raised in respect of Redlands ward of my constituency, but we in Reading are not alone in having that experience. A police investigation has been carried out. An internal audit by Reading borough council has also considered the matter, and both investigations have uncovered serious irregularities.
The findings of the internal audit investigation were given to Thames Valley police, who carried out their own investigation, the outcome of which was a determination that voting fraud had been widespread in Redlands ward, where people had voted either using the identities of people who had moved away, or had invented the identities of people who simply did not exist. It has not been possible for the police to find evidence against any individual, but the fact remains that we are left in a situation that will not inspire confidence in any future election.
Damini said:I got a funny e-mail the other day. It implored me to vote. It said that Tony Blair has the blood of thousands of dead civilians on his hands. It said he started an illegal war, and lied to us, and that thousands of people have died because of him. But hey, concluded this completely serious e-mail, at least he isn't a Tory. It comes to something when people seriously believe it is better to have the blood of innocents on your hands than be conservative. It comes to something when everyone knows votes are being fixed, and we just shrug and do nothing about it. Dirty, dirty, dirty election.
Damini said:It comes to something when people seriously believe it is better to have the blood of innocents on your hands than be conservative.
Damini said:We invade Iraq because of illegal weapons, sorry, because of failure to comply to UN resolutions, sorry, because he is a BAD MAN and also because he is a DICTATOR that denies people a fair vote and invades countries, and, hey... doesn't that strike anyone else as vaguely familiar?
I got a funny e-mail the other day. It implored me to vote. It said that Tony Blair has the blood of thousands of dead civilians on his hands. It said he started an illegal war, and lied to us, and that thousands of people have died because of him. But hey, concluded this completely serious e-mail, at least he isn't a Tory. It comes to something when people seriously believe it is better to have the blood of innocents on your hands than be conservative. It comes to something when everyone knows votes are being fixed, and we just shrug and do nothing about it. Dirty, dirty, dirty election.