how`s this for a bolt :o

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Sharma

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Youre a caster thus the high damage, Bolts are now 50/50 resist/AF.
 
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case-rigantis

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any idea about the double bolt? bearing in mind i had him targetted out of view so he had to move into view then cast and i have a 2.8 second base cast time and was fully buffed at the time. Also i`m fully SC`d in 99% armour with capped resists.

i`m just interested really as i don`t know much about casters. :)
 
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old.Jeriraa

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Runie bolts aint cold damage. They are energy (like all spells from Runes of Destruction) and I think Orenthal was the guy I once asked in DF how he could bolt at cap speed... it really looked ridiculous. My guess is that he has a few levels of wild power for the crit chance and aug dex/mastery of art for casting speed.

Bolts can do insane damage and with the right ra's there are prolly very few classes you can not 2-shot.
 
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case-rigantis

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i know enough to know the crit is included he bolted me twice and the bolts arrived at me in less time than it took me to cast 1 nuke. and i have maxed energy resist too
 
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Jonaldo

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Originally posted by case-rigantis
any idea about the double bolt? bearing in mind i had him targetted out of view so he had to move into view then cast and i have a 2.8 second base cast time and was fully buffed at the time. Also i`m fully SC`d in 99% armour with capped resists.

i`m just interested really as i don`t know much about casters. :)
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hax imo

ban
 
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old.Jeriraa

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That you couldnt target him before he targeted you could be blamed on lag maybe? (I wasnt there so I dont know but since range check and LoS calcs are done client side things like these are possible.)

About the casting speed I am unsure...

The casting zime on bolts was reduced in some patch. (Actually I just noticed that... I thought it was still 4 secs. :)) Casting them at 1.5secs isnt a big deal anymore and isnt qc supposed to reduce casting time by 50% too? Usaly you qc the 2nd bolt so your target cant get away.
 
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old.Jeriraa

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Originally posted by case-rigantis
i know enough to know the crit is included
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These dont look like crits thou. :rolleyes: Looks like plain normal bolt hits. I found out that they ignore resists mostly... I bolted someone with full sc so capped energy resists and like 7% of the bolt damage was resisted. Then I used a normal energy nuke and the full resists kicked in.
 
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Zebolt

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Originally posted by old.Jeriraa
The casting zime on bolts was reduced in some patch. (Actually I just noticed that... I thought it was still 4 secs. :)) Casting them at 1.5secs isnt a big deal anymore and isnt qc supposed to reduce casting time by 50% too? Usaly you qc the 2nd bolt so your target cant get away.
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The casting time on bolts are 2.5 sec now so yes it's fairly easy to cap that.

Originally posted by old.Jeriraa
These dont look like crits thou. :rolleyes: Looks like plain normal bolt hits. I found out that they ignore resists mostly... I bolted someone with full sc so capped energy resists and like 7% of the bolt damage was resisted. Then I used a normal energy nuke and the full resists kicked in.
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An enemy can't tell if it's a crit or not, it dispalys the same way. The first bolt looks like a crit to me but then again it was a very long time since I was a carver.
 
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case-rigantis

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the situation was he popped around and bolted a friend..

I was stationary and targetted on him. I then stood still spamming nuke untill he popped up for another try and BAM i was dead :eek:

when i checked the log i saw he managed to bolt me twice in less time than it took for my nuke to go off

anyway thought it was interesting so there you go uber bolts for the win
 
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old.mattshanes

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Reminds me of jenna's bolts way back in 1.36 or so.:eek:
 
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old.Atrox

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Originally posted by old.Jeriraa
isnt qc supposed to reduce casting time by 50% too?
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No, it's 2sec uninteruptable. Back in 1.3X i might've been 50% of the casttime but not anymore with capped stats, RA's and better buffs.
 
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Ardrias_Mid

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No need to cry, others have already done it enough. Runies getting deleted :)
 
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Ahqmae

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Wildfire bolted me for 12XX with 3X% heat resist :(
 
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cHodAX

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If it went exactly as you say then that MIGHT be a speed hack Case, I say that because your 2.8 base with basic buffs is more like 2sec. There is no way in this game even with capped dex/buffs/MoArts that he can get 2 bolts off in under 3 seconds. I would send the screenie and the log to GOA if you have it. If you don't just send them a time and hope they can check it.
 
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Ardrias_Mid

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Umm... fully buffed even my dwarf tosses aweh 2 bolts in 3 sec.

b00000fz and mota u c?
 
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old.Jeriraa

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Originally posted by Ahqmae
Wildfire bolted me for 12XX with 3X% heat resist :(
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Like I said, bolts ignore a great deal of your resists... like 2/3 is my guess.
 
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Ardrias_Mid

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Caster with shields down is funny :) HI DER 1500 dmg bolt :cool:

(thats with full crit tho :p)
 
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Urgat Rip-Eye

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Hmmm

Still a little unclear on the origional situation,

This would be my best guess.

- Alter camera angle to see over/round wall.
- Target you.
- Sprint Sidestep into view
- Hit face As soon as no wall in front
- Hit Bolt 1 icon
- Hit bolt 2 icon (posibly with QC so not interupted)

Bolts got 2.5 base speed.

With High dex, buffs, and right RA, easily hit casting cap for bolts.

/shrug
 
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Urgat Rip-Eye

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Re: Hmmm

Also...

The main use for QC is to ensure your not interupted.

A fully buffed caster with high dex and the right RA will actually cast a spell slower with QC than without.

This is because the game only take into account the base casting speed of the spell, and the casters natural dex when it works out how fast the QC spell with be cast.

***Edit - unless things have changed... but i have never seen patch notes to indicate a change***
 
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old.Maronan

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This makes me feel like getting those last levels on my Runecarver! :)
 
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piggeman

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Originally posted by case-rigantis
http://www.spellfire.co.uk/~rigante...ame=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php

still no idea how he cast this faster than me spamming nukes as he popped his head around the wall

oh yeah and i have 26% cold resist and had a friar cold resist buff on me at the time :)
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All bolters have two bolts. One base and one spec bolt. The base bolt have value 240 (or something) while the spec bolt have value 317. Meaning that base bolt can hit your 26% resist with about 400+ damage, and the spec one can hit for ~550-700.

What you said about this Friar that had a cold debuff, doesn't help you much in this case, cos Runecarving RM have energy damage. So the bolts are energy.

So from what I can tell from what I see on the ss is that eighter you don't have capped energy resist, or he was lucky and landed two very good crits on the 1008 damage shot (spec bold) and 759 damage shot (base bolt).

This RM prolly streafed so he could see you, then pressed bolt and backup bolt, which make you take great damage in about 1,5 sec. Plus time for the bolt to reach you, cos they are not DD... :) Throwing 2 bolts goes VERY fast.
 
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Eroda

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Everytime ive met the caster in question, ive never been hit for anything less than 1000 with bolts and thats with shields up.

He must be v v lucky :p
 
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ormorof

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well bolts are 2.5s cast time w/o buffs so they arent that hard to cast at capped speed :D
 
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Brelakor.

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Yes, YES, more hackers!
The albs says they are hackers so they must be!
Ban ban!
 
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piggeman

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Originally posted by Eroda
Everytime ive met the caster in question, ive never been hit for anything less than 1000 with bolts and thats with shields up.

He must be v v lucky :p
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Well ...

Name: Orenthal
Guild: Valour
Level: 50
RP: 1,221,784
Last week: 75,112
Class: Runemaster
Race: Dwarf
Trade: None

He's 6L3, so I bet he got alot of WP/MoM or something. RM don't have that many good RAs to choose from, you know! :eek:
 
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Eroda

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Originally posted by piggeman
Well ...

Name: Orenthal
Guild: Valour
Level: 50
RP: 1,221,784
Last week: 75,112
Class: Runemaster
Race: Dwarf
Trade: None

He's 6L3, so I bet he got alot of WP/MoM or something. RM don't have that many good RAs to choose from, you know! :eek:
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Fair enough :)
 
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Jenna.

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FYI

runie basebolt: 239
runie specbolt: 317
MoM II: 1.06 more damage
239*3*1.06 = 760.02 = near 759 which is cap
317*3*1.06 = 1008.08 = near 1008 which is cap

= NO CRITS :clap:



With some nice buffs you can have both bolts in the air at the same time etc, nerf runies more please :rolleyes:
 
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