How Many Will Buy Catacombs?

[semanon]

Wrong. Read up before making statements like that, we get different zones they made ToA the same becouse it would be the most practical, i mean if they made three zones one realm would whine on the other for having easier ML steps etc.

haha you honestly think that cut n paste Mythic will change?. The zones will be the same with changes in mobs

 

[semanon]

I'm getting it for sure. Have no plans on moving to WoW either. Even though DAoC has its flaws, its still by far the best MMORPG out there at the moment.

I have had an opportunity to play quite a few MMOs and I can asure you that Daoc is NOT the best one out there. The only redeming feature of Daoc is RvR. The effectivness of that aspect of the game since NF is still open to debate. There are MMOs out there with much better PvE systems.

 

[popa]

Wrong. Read up before making statements like that, we get different zones they made ToA the same becouse it would be the most practical, i mean if they made three zones one realm would whine on the other for having easier ML steps etc.

take a luck

nonono no the same Noooooooo

 

[Wirey]

20quid? stuff this... i am just gonna go and Buy WoW

game 20quid
si 20quid
toa 20 quid
catacombs 20quid?
... 80quid totle... wat the.. .we already baught the game... stop coming out with more stupid ideas to nack the game up more!

 

[Tesla Monkor]

And you think the WoW expansions are all going to be free?

WoW is a cashcow and Blizzard will do anything it's power to milk it for what it's worth. That includes expansions that you gotta pay for. Blizzard is in it for the cash, not in it to make you a happy person.

 

[Culanan]

take a luck

nonono no the same Noooooooo

Same names but if you look at the layouts of zones with the same name you'll notice it's different :touch:

 

[Culanan]

20quid? stuff this... i am just gonna go and Buy WoW

game 20quid
si 20quid
toa 20 quid
catacombs 20quid?
... 80quid totle... wat the.. .we already baught the game... stop coming out with more stupid ideas to nack the game up more!

You must be the most tight fisted person evah!!!

80 quid over 3 years, might mean something if you lived in a 3rd world country

I'll be buying it. Twice.

 

[Ctuchik]

20quid? stuff this... i am just gonna go and Buy WoW

game 20quid
si 20quid
toa 20 quid
catacombs 20quid?
... 80quid totle... wat the.. .we already baught the game... stop coming out with more stupid ideas to nack the game up more!

are u poor or something?? u gotta be if u think 80 quid is expensive.... and more so if u spread it out over 3 years.... and trust me.. blizzard is gonna make sure they get absolut max income from that game... and that includes releasing "more stupid ideas to nack the game up more!"

 

[Matriarch|Sneakers]

I wont buy anything from mythic that involves more time sinks / PvE. They can go to hell with that.

 

[Fluffybunny]

i will also try out WoW first before considering catacombs, if i dont find WoW fun enough i'll probably move back to daoc and get catacombs, only time will tell

i will buy 2 copys 1 for each account, and not because i got a bot but because i have so many alts so need 2 accounts to play all the classes i want

stupid vbulletin software doesnt even allow me to list all characters in signature

 

[Svartmetall]

20quid? stuff this... i am just gonna go and Buy WoW

game 20quid
si 20quid
toa 20 quid
catacombs 20quid?
... 80quid totle... wat the.. .we already baught the game... stop coming out with more stupid ideas to nack the game up more!

OH NOES! They are bringing out new content for the game! And you have to pay for it since Mythic won't work for free for you! THE BASTARDS!

Pff

Look at it this way:

DAOC £20
SI £20 a year later
TOA £20 another year later
Cats £20 soon

Get a job and stop whining.

 

[Jaapi]

Anyone new to the game will get the whole package for £19.99. Ironic.

Ironic that you don't get how they make the money. Just a tip, it's not from game sales.

And won't be buying Catacombs, ToA was the last straw already that made me quit and don't see catacombs erasing that.

 

[Chesnox]

I won't be buying it, since all it does is add more PvE (albeit an easier path to lvl50), a few new classes and some eye candy. Getting to 50 was never much of a problem really, its the post-50 ToA grind need just to compete in RvR that is too much for me. I have done it once, and I really cba doing it again. So Catacombs offers me nothing.

Should they 'fix' ToA (no zerg MLs, increase drop rates on scrolls and non-farmable artis would be a nice start imho) I may consider playing DaoC again, since I could then roll fotm classes without dying of boredom on the ToA treadmill. Oh and they could fix crafting too, because its rubbish.

 

[Poon]

nope

 

[Gear]

If my bank manager approves a 25 year fixed low rate loan based on european equities I might buy it. Hell, I might even buy two!

 

[Gamah]

i'll buy 2

 

[Arus Canus]

ill buy 1 for main, not sure if ill need one for ze bb acc.

 

[Jaem-]

If I'm not trying DnL or something else, then yeah I'll get 1 copy just to have alook around.

 

[Indio]

Thought about making one of the new chars then this came to mind -

Leveling from 0 to 50 (with modernagrav nerfed).
Finding a decent template.
Buying new armour, finding a spellcrafter and an alchemist.
Getting artifacts.
Farming scrolls.
Leveling artifacts
ML's.
:eek2:

 

[gervaise]

Should you have to pay for the expansions?

Depends on the business model. Mythic stated that they want to EQ the game by releasing expansions with each expansion bringing in new folks ....

Well NEWSFLASH the business model is broken / not working as intended.

So the question really is should Mythic change the model. CoH and Lineage2 expansions are built into the subscription and - just like EQ expansions - they can be (wait for it) downloaded thereby significantly reducing the cost. (Yes Mythic have said they cannot do this abd yes EQ do both. For CoH and Lineage though there are no publishing / distribution / specific advertising costs).

GuildWars has yet another model - no monthly subscriptions.

On Mythic's current model the drop in subscriptions seriously hurts the recovery costs of the expansion packs. 250k to 100k subscribers say would be a big hit - we don't know what the numbers are yet but the drop is going to be huge. I think they will struggle to break even after distribution costs. There has been near zero advertising in the US for Catacombs and zero reviews. With the business model as it is an expansion pack is almost a new game - and several new games have been canned in 2004 + some that made it have closed.

As for the expansion itself some folks in the US have left as a result. Guess what ... and this will be tough to swallow .. the new classes are overpowered (especially the warlock but also the vampyr). But hey. as it stands they only need to be RR1 without ToA and SI goodies to take out your RR10s. So no artifact or scrolls. Nerf - did I hear someone say nerf - this expansion has been carefully tested and will not have any impact on RvR ...

Well if Warlocks and Vampires arrive as implemented at the moment then folks can say goodbye to the effectiveness of their current characters. Folks don't even need to ToA them

 

[Mojo]

I will buy 2 copies to start with

 

[Rami]

Catacombs is possibly the best add-on for DAoC so far imo, was fun to play it on US servers so going to buy it ofc

 

[Kaj]

I agree with Rami. My Vampiir is level 42, and Catacombs is byfar better than ToA and NF put together. I didnt buy Cata for my BB account, im a Vamp

Everything looks better, new gear, new stats, new zones etc.
Still fearing the day i hit 46 and have to start farming ToA though

 

[Shike]

shrug, bought 3 copies for all 3 acc's me and wifey share ofc. Aint exactly much cash we are talking about here.

 

[Vilje]

Going to buy 1, I don't use a bb atm, so I dont need a second

 

[Maleg]

Play US now and have bought a copy for each of my accounts (2) - don't regret it, very nice expansion with so many nice things for the 0 - 50. DAoC PvE should have been like this from release, I think it would have had a lot more players now.

Much needed jab in the arm for PvE.

 

[Vilje]

I wont buy anything from mythic that involves more time sinks / PvE. They can go to hell with that.

I thought they were going to introduce these random dungeons which the game generates for your grp only.

Ex: If a grp og 1 sm, 1 warr, and 1 healer enters the dungeon, the dungeon will be randomly generated, and it will create mobs that suit perfectly this grp. If this works out, Catacombs will make PvE easier imho. Or will this not happen?

 

[Maleg]

I wont buy anything from mythic that involves more time sinks / PvE. They can go to hell with that.

Catacombs is quiet the oposite - introduction of Instance dungeons, mini quests reduce time sink. Not seen any 'uber' catacombs items thus far but there are some very nice items with +cap and half decent utility that would enable the casual player to produce a half decent template. Of course if you're a hardcore max-min player who pl've the latest FoTM alt to 50 in as short a time as possible Catacombs offers very little. If you're a casual player, then it's a nice expansion - nothing great but a solid base of changes to the game for the better.

 

[Maleg]

I thought they were going to introduce these random dungeons which the game generates for your grp only.

Ex: If a grp og 1 sm, 1 warr, and 1 healer enters the dungeon, the dungeon will be randomly generated, and it will create mobs that suit perfectly this grp. If this works out, Catacombs will make PvE easier imho. Or will this not happen?

The dungeons adjust to the party size and level of the players (don't think it takes class into account). However that said I think Instance dungeons always yield the same XP no matter how many are in there - friend duo'ed at 49 in an Instance Task dungeon, took him 40 minutes to complete and I think it was worth 10% of a level XP at 49 (not bad for duo imo). Take a full group into Darkspire and you average 100 mill XP per mob (instance bonus is outside xp cap).

 

[Wirey]

u have to admit, before SI was released, it was much fun leveling from 1-20 hoping to go to bg etc, capping out with shit items u use, carrying on.. such long but great experiance and meeting new people, i prefer to just level a Valkyrie, from 0-50 and getting SC suit only, not bothering with toa its just to long but i mite just get weapon artifacts like Battler and Shield of Khaos, it will do me just fine, its much more fun to level 0-50