How many albs does it really take?

[zYnc]

Don't make these kind of threads Shike, makes me miss DAoC even more :<

 

[Section]

hibs aren't that hard for mid pbae grp if you play it right...
just get aemezz in m8s

 

[Ilum]

oh look a pbae grp killing randoms in a milegate room! </

 

[Morchaoron]

Don't make these kind of threads Shike, makes me miss DAoC even more :<

me too until i think of toa and all my ubergear being almost wrecked

 

[ecna]

went out one night of RvR since toa and hibbies are lookin damn nastey, if they get the drop on u ur gonna loose like 1/2 before you even get a look in, minimum.

chanters dont even have to assist anymore, seen lorelei (sp?) and zel (not sure if the other one was u shike?) just nuke targets and drop me them in seconds. people died so fast if i hadnt have been watching the fight i would have thought they were afk inside a pbaoe box

 

[Eroa]

oh look a pbae grp killing randoms in a milegate room! </

Yes.. ~10fg albs.. Kinda not much of an option but to head for the mg room (it was at hmg in Hadrians)
Still took em 15-20min to kill us.

I had fun for sure

 

[Naetha]

tbh its not hard to beat any number of people when you're set up with your ML font of power, powerdrain mines, grapple etc etc - it is nearly impossible to kill any group that has established itself with things like that, are a reasonable RR and have ToA gear, as you showed at Renaris.

Lord wasn't insta healing itself btw, it was a stream of kamikaze clerics that were running up and instaing the lord before being pbaoed for over 2000 damage a round

 

[Brolundar]

oh look a pbae grp killing randoms in a milegate room! </

Did not know yesterday, if I should laugh or whine about that.

Please Albs, use GTAE, Siege weapons and some ML-Gimmick, but dont rush against such a group

btw. there is no difference betreen these choices:
- ae-stun + ae-desiease and bombed away by SM
- baseline stun and nuked away in 2 sek by assistng hib casters
- out-cced + deseased and assisted-down.

/release

 

[Kahland]

have killed over 80 albs in room fight with my old guildo on my druid on excal, and that was pre toa. in room ofc. too...

 

[Kahland]

we havent lost to albs since before TOA mate. Only if outnumbered so I dunno, think albs have it kinda hard atm.

Yup, droods are good And RPs, i really dont know, 30k+ or so made in Albland overall and we killed alot of albs at renar too. 15k maybe?

edit: now its bedtime!!!

i doubt any good alb grps have been out since toa :wub:

 

[Eroa]

Lord wasn't insta healing itself btw, it was a stream of kamikaze clerics that were running up and instaing the lord before being pbaoed for over 2000 damage a round

Actualy.. He did heal himself.. Since he got back health several times when there were no alb even close to the keep. And yes we saw that some clerics did some suicide runs to instant heal him.

 

[Minn]

Overpowered!

what grobo said

 

[Minn]

Yay Dorga killed me! Why have a whining thread (there are already millions of them) why can't we just say .... good job Hibs!
:wub:

Go Xyliana :wub:

 

[Darzil]

Well, you won't see me in that death spam, but, in answer to a few questions:

Yes, we did have GTAOE on the room. It has a timer, though, and with current casting speeds, you need several earth wizards getting their timing right to interrupt. And as I met my first earth wiz that evening . . .

The reason ranged casting is relevant is that they didn't just sit there and wait for us to attack. When people weren't running in, they just kept casting out. We were generally tank heavy, so though they were outnumbered, they had a similar number of casters. Most deaths I saw were on the battlements, not in the room.

Eventually, a heroic charge combined with GTAOE worked.

As for people running to PBAOE, yes, they do. Far, far too often. Fortunately I've got a decent PC, so (except for RR), run full effects, which makes traps far easier to spot. If I run into them, it's on sprint and speed, with a slam, and straight out the other side ! (Though I'll not claim I learned this before my first meeting with one, nor that there is anything new in the tactic!)

Darzil

 

[SoulFly]

Overpowered!

no shit.

 

[Pudzy]

Blimey, this the effects of Bodyguard in hib? oO

 

[Eroa]

Blimey, this the effects of Bodyguard in hib? oO

More effect of powerfont/detfield/spdtrap etc. Combined with large force (zerg) of albs without coordination.

 

[Septina]

Really a shame that ToA cut this game down to 2 realms

 

[Asty]

Really a shame that ToA cut this game down to 2 realms

It didn't, just maybe better to use caster setup in alb now.

 

[Septina]

It didn't, just maybe better to use caster setup in alb now.

We are, try beating an high rr well organized hib pbae group with it tho
Fully possible if they dont have GP, but that happens often... really, it does :x

 

[Ilum]

Look at the Dem Hibbies movie. They done pretty ok vs random alb zergs before ToA. After ToA they've killed 120 mids on a keep. Wards help tons. No need for Shikei to boast, everyone that's been up against Ascending Dawn know they have a good grp and play well. And it's also common knowledge that non opted zergs have a tough time vs high realm rank + PBAE + room camping + ToA + opted group.

 

[Pudzy]

Ilum you wish you had my skills don't you m8, cmon admit it to the people, you wanna be like me don't you!

 

[Silverhawk]

I want to meet those albs in RvR please!

 

[Kerig]

played hibs, though to me it seems a shame hib grps are quite so powerful around keeps/rooms etc, as it doesnt bode very well for the longevity of Frontiers.

Renaris last night, hmmm, kind of fubar when 1fg can attack a defended level 10 keep, bust both doors, kill all defenders, then fight with the lord and top guards, at the same time killing wave after wave of arriving defenders, all whilst also being constantly volleyd for 30 minutes (by 2 scouts hitting 3 out of 5 shots for 500ish damage a go), and only have 1 grp member die for a few seconds. ah well GG mythic.

 

[Elendar]

1 power drain ward near em and its by by time (of course actually staying uninterupted for 15 seconds may not be easy )

 

[willowywicca]

Ilum you wish you had my skills don't you m8, cmon admit it to the people, you wanna be like me don't you!

Ilum gets pwned by BDs when solo! He could never have your skillz m8!

 

[Eroa]

Ilum gets pwned by BDs when solo! He could never have your skillz m8!

lol!

cant solo a BD.. what a gimp..

BD most underpowerd class in the game

 

[Maeloch]

played hibs, though to me it seems a shame hib grps are quite so powerful around keeps/rooms etc, as it doesnt bode very well for the longevity of Frontiers.

Think pbaoe getting fixed so it doesn't travel through walls will go a long way to fix some of the stupidity that happens in keeps/rooms defences.

About 90% of the time I get pbaoe'd in these situations the enemy is spamming clustered pbaoe behind a wall and there's no time to retreat or do anything much, let along get target and counter...in hib keeps I normally die before even getting up the stairs to lord if pbaoe hiding in lord room.

Just leave em to it, if u know they are there .

Mael, 50th ment.

 

[Maleg]

played hibs, though to me it seems a shame hib grps are quite so powerful around keeps/rooms etc, as it doesnt bode very well for the longevity of Frontiers.

Mythic say they are going to change it so PBAE won't travel through walls / doors. Also AE doesn't work if you're under cover on a wall.

As for the rest of it, a high RR Hib PB groups played well are pretty tough to beat, I'd say almost impossible for Albs to beat unless the Hibs fuck up badly. Kinda reminds me of the scenario a few months back with a Hib melee group a trying to take down a high RR Alb group - you would rarely win if the Albs had their RA's up and didn't fuck up.

 

[Oro]

I was there for that fight. At first when Hibs made it to gateroom we charged - I didn't realise at that point the full group had made it in alive to room so I went down too. Got rezzed and stayed out after that to wait for ranged or til the hibs got bored. I watched people still going in.

As of last night though I can now carry a treb by myself with the ammo I need.

Look forward to the next time