how do online casinos get away with it?

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blackjack for example, the program is designed to make the dealer win more than is loses, its not a fair chance for the user. So how do they get past laws which should protect this?

 

[Kitarat]

blackjack for example, the program is designed to make the dealer win more than is loses, its not a fair chance for the user. So how do they get past laws which should protect this?

its a gamble game.... if u wanna keep ur money stay away from it. if u wanna lose all ur cash go near it

 

[tris-]

blackjack for example, the program is designed to make the dealer win more than is loses, its not a fair chance for the user. So how do they get past laws which should protect this?

which laws?

 

[- English -]

which laws?

well i assume there are laws which makes it so they cant program the game to allow the dealer to win everytime?

 

[leviathane]

only have to show that the game is winnable and it's legal. So aslong as the customer actually has a chance of winning then they can "get away with it" so to speak. More chance of winning that then the lottery but most ppl still play the lottery.

 

[Howley]

well afaik its like slot machines etc... as long as their program has at least X % to win / lose its "legal" as far as the gambling commission is concerned

 

[Marc]

Never play "online casinos". They are for mugs. If you want to play blackjack or roulette, go to your local casino.

 

[Eeben]

if you count cards you got a good chance on winning duno how that works online tho

 

[tris-]

well i assume there are laws which makes it so they cant program the game to allow the dealer to win everytime?

why not?

 

[- English -]

cos anyone could whip up a program with means the dealer wins 100%

yeah people may not play there after a while but if they dont cotton on to it, they take an easy few hundred quid for free.

 

[Nate]

Never play "online casinos". They are for mugs. If you want to play blackjack or roulette, go to your local casino.

Is the nearest one in Monte Carlo or smth? Seems a bit more work then just going on the intahnetz!

 

[Binky the Bomb]

blackjack for example, the program is designed to make the dealer win more than is loses, its not a fair chance for the user. So how do they get past laws which should protect this?

Because, and I realy can't stress this more, "Humans are stupid!"
People allow it because thier idiots... which is why they play online blackjack.

 

[kirennia]

Is the nearest one in Monte Carlo or smth? Seems a bit more work then just going on the intahnetz!

There are casinos in most cities in england. Casinos are just as bad as online ones though, they can all be rigged to let the people who run it win as much or as little cash as they want.

 

[Eeben]

There are casinos in most cities in england. Casinos are just as bad as online ones though, they can all be rigged to let the people who run it win as much or as little cash as they want.

isnt there any controll with stuff like that in the uk?

 

[old.Whoodoo]

isnt there any controll with stuff like that in the uk?

As someone else said, if you "have a chanceto win" its perfectly legal, take fruitmachines, they are calibrated to payout only 5-45% takings, depending on the company running it.

IMO anyone playing the lottery is a worse mug, unlike any other gambling, bets can only be placed until 30 minutes before the draw, give half an hour to work out the best comination of winners, have a shite turnover in sales, boost them a little by rolling over or giving multi-winners always seems to draw back the punters.

Anything from online gambling to fruitmachines are only as honest as the programmer...

 

[Marc]

Is the nearest one in Monte Carlo or smth? Seems a bit more work then just going on the intahnetz!

Internet casinos are rigged to high heaven. I know a lad who works for one of the biggest online casinos in the UK and he says its an absolute joke, the way they rig it. Its less odds than a fruit machine.

Most real life casinos are legit, especially the Grosvener chain of casinos, where there is no weighting towards the house at all.

 

[Lamp]

Agree with Marc

To be honest, if you're stupid enough to play on line gambling, which is controlled by a remote computer program, you might as well take $100 out of your wallet and flush it down the toilet

 

[kirennia]

you might as well take $100

Such an American wannabe

 

[Raven]

Just another idiot tax like the lottery.

 

[Lamp]

Such an American wannabe

I'd sooner lick a horse's asshole just after he's taken a shit then get apply for American citizenship

 

[Golena]

you might as well take $100 out of your wallet and flush it down the toilet

I actually do this on a regular basis as dollar bills are actually cheaper per square meter than Andrex these days and more absorbant!!

Most fruit machines in the UK have a minimum payout (it's normally something like 75%), and as long as they pay out more than that percentage it's legal to rig them as much as you want to.
The percentage is normally fairly high so your idiot punter thinks he's got a chance of winning, and work purely on the principle that most people that win money in a fruit machine dispense it straight back in again. Once you've picked up your winnings and put it back in the slot it will take another 25% of that lot as well, which means the actual payout is much lower than the value on the tin.

As with all gamling it relies pretty much on the basis that people don't stop when they are ahead, but do stop when they run out of money so if you keep them there long enough eventually the house wins.

 

[old.Tohtori]

blackjack for example, the program is designed to make the dealer win more than is loses, its not a fair chance for the user. So how do they get past laws which should protect this?

Same as the card shuffler at casinos really.

CAn't remmeber where i heard it, but those devices act on a similar'ish fashion. Not to mention, the whole idea of gambling is that you lose more then they gain.

 

[gohan]

I actually do this on a regular basis as dollar bills are actually cheaper per square meter than Andrex these days and more absorbant!!

Most fruit machines in the UK have a minimum payout (it's normally something like 75%), and as long as they pay out more than that percentage it's legal to rig them as much as you want to.
The percentage is normally fairly high so your idiot punter thinks he's got a chance of winning, and work purely on the principle that most people that win money in a fruit machine dispense it straight back in again. Once you've picked up your winnings and put it back in the slot it will take another 25% of that lot as well, which means the actual payout is much lower than the value on the tin.

As with all gamling it relies pretty much on the basis that people don't stop when they are ahead, but do stop when they run out of money so if you keep them there long enough eventually the house wins.

nothing like 75% my mate wastes shitloads on fruit machines and hes probly won about £4 on the £50 or so ive seen him put in (£1-2 pounds a time not in 1 go) and ofc that £4 went straight back in

 

[stupeh]

English in being fleeced by online and rl casino shocker.

 

[Golena]

nothing like 75% my mate wastes shitloads on fruit machines and hes probly won about £4 on the £50 or so ive seen him put in (£1-2 pounds a time not in 1 go) and ofc that £4 went straight back in

Next time your in a pub go look at one.
Near the coin slot will be a message saying what the minimum payout is (you'll probably find it's very close to 75%ish).

They have to pay that out by law over time.. They will be very cleverly coded to try and recognise patterns tho, and ensure they dump the most money on people likely to put it back in. If I was programming them I wouldn't give anything to someone who walked past and dropped £2 in, since if you get the jackpot on your first pound you'll walk away. If you get the jackpot of £25 after dropping £30 in you've still got to make back that £5 loss so your more likely to keep going, and they don't actually give anything away.
Quiz machines work the same way.. if you fail to answer questions spectacularly for a while the number of points you need to win tends to drop on average. If you keep almost getting there but not quite it stays high.

Assuming it's based on rand(100) > 90 = win would be utter stupidity.

 

[DocWolfe]

I won £500 playing roulette/blackjack online.

 

[soze]

If you host your server outside of the UK you would not have to meet any UK laws either i assume?