Honk if Enchanter needs a nerf

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Uncle Sick(tm)

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Just leave them be, Teador... pointless trying to argue with Sodom and Tantrum. *shrugs and yawns*
 
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old.SadonTheGrey

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Just cos we're right and you are wrong ><
 
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Uncle Sick(tm)

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Originally posted by old.SadonTheGrey
Just cos we're right and you are wrong ><

... you are rather a pathetic whiner. :D
 
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old.Gombur Glodson

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IBTL! Damini please do your magic work.
 
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mustrum

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Originally posted by old.SadonTheGrey


But, you see Teador, your class is THE best at nuking and pbaoe'ing. Does this mean wizards should do uber damage? Cos that is something we aren't doing at the moment.

And, to quote the manual that comes with the game:

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The Eldritch wields theprimal force of nature to produce spells of great destructive power
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That's yer damage dealer.

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Coming from the Way of Magic, the Enchanter can create and control magical creatures to serve and fight for their realm
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but this isn't what is happening at the moment ><. you are a pet class, not a heavy damage dealer!!!

And as far as your mentalist argument goes, the whole point in them is to have lots of utility, but perhaps combines with damage this makes them a little overpowered, it's not as earth-shattering as enchanters. I have yet to see a mentalist kill as quickly as an manachanter.

Teador dosen't use the manual. He knows everything allready. And unclesick plz plz stop kissing Teadors rear :eek6:.
I think when mythic made this they didnt expect resists would affect spells to the extent of doubling/halving the damage.
Resists should be much much harder to come by imho, maxing out at ~15% excluding buffs.

Nerf resists!
Nerf Chanters!
Nerf Honks!
Nerf Mythic!
Nerf Zealous albs!

HONK!
 
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old.willowywicca

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Originally posted by mustrum


Teador dosen't use the manual.

personnally I wouldn't use the manual either, as it's full of so much incorrect shit as to completely gimp anyone who bases their decisions on it
 
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j000 d000d

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Just leave them be, Teador... pointless trying to argue with Sodom and Tantrum. *shrugs and yawns*

Indeed..... I'll just stop replying to this, it's leading nowhere, Enchanter isn't gonna be nerfed by 2 Albs whining on a forum anyway..... :)

That was my last reply to this thread.
 
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mustrum

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Teador you evidently dont even read the posts. Soon as somone proves you wrong you just come up with another excuse, having run out of excuses you leave :rolleyes:

Its a lot more than 2 albs. I think you will find almost anny mid/alb caster who goes rvr finds enchanters overpowered compared to them (runies and cabalists not quite so bad off, at least nearsight gives a bit of freedom.) You have played firewiz yourself. Do you honestly think Enchanter is not overpowered in comparison? Or is a firewiz just underpowered...

I think theres a very good chance of getting enchanters nerfed. Even though daoc will be dead and buried by the time they get to patching it.

I'm bored what else are forums for.

<Honk>
 
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Uncle Sick(tm)

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Mustrum... it's 'please' not 'plz'...

And I rather think it's you and Sodom doing the mutual arsekissing. ;)
 
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mustrum

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Originally posted by Uncle Sick(tm)
Mustrum... it's 'please' not 'plz'...

And I rather think it's you and Sodom doing the mutual arsekissing. ;)

Is that all you got to say?

Was kind of hoping you might have something relevant to post. Like why enchanters are balanced. Please post below.
 
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j000 d000d

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My very last reply, the reason why enchanter is balanced has already been said, they have no mezz/root, just a stun.

YES it IS a big impact. And it DOES make a big difference. Imagine your root being converted to 8 seconds, wowaaa, that isnt gonna do ANYTHING if an enemy is whacking you.
 
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old.Atrox

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I would love to convert my aeroot to a 8sec stun ;)
 
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mustrum

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Yes i would much prefer stun to root... 8 seconds 4+ nukes at ur speed :rolleyes: One debuff and 3 nukes - at least 1200 dmg. Wow. Stun evidently sucks. Earlier teador i'm sure you said you felt sorry whenever you stunned somone. Maybe it was on irc where hibs usually boast :rolleyes:
 
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old.SadonTheGrey

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When they gave earth the ae stun on Pendragon, they said it was to powerful.

So someone said lets give them single target stun.

Someone said no, wizards are for damage, not that kinda stuff, plus it overpowers them.

So they decided to leave us with our nice root, that wouldn't overpower us. Somehow, stun has an ever so slight edge over root (*note the sarcasm*).

And by the way, Mustrum is right when he talks about how you just change your argument evertime... this time you are arguing that root>stun, lol...

<HONK>
 
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old.Gombur Glodson

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You two really needs to find some hobby.
:rolleyes:

You're like duracell bunnies, you just keep going on and on and on
and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and so forth.
 
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old.SadonTheGrey

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LOL :)

It has even been taken to 'The Cauldron' wizard class web-site :p
 
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meep.

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http://www.btinternet.com/~djponting/nerrfchanters.JPG

pah in a word

got an ice wiz specifically for pbae only to be outdone by a pet class with a better/faster pbae, stun and self dmg debuff

why should the biggest dmg dealer wizzies (lol) be outdone by a pet class?

debuffed stunned and nuked dead without a chance to do anything

dunno how you can defend stun and say it is worse than root
 
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old.SadonTheGrey

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RAR, we got the last word... nerf!!!!!111
 
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mustrum

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Originally posted by old.Gombur Glodson
You two really needs to find some hobby.
:rolleyes:

You're like duracell bunnies, you just keep going on and on and on
and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and so forth.

Hobby - Annoying enchanters :)
I would have a go at champions but the lurikeen ones jus too cute :fluffle:
 
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mustrum

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Originally posted by meep.


dunno how you can defend stun and say it is worse than root

I think the fact Teador deleted a lvl 50 firewiz to play an enchanter pretty well sums up what class is overpowered/underpowered... despite other reasons for leaving the realm.
 
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old.Gombur Glodson

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so chanters are overpowered because Teador deleted his wizard to play one?
 
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mustrum

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Originally posted by old.Gombur Glodson
so chanters are overpowered because Teador deleted his wizard to play one?

Not at all, they aren't overpowered because he did so, but Teador has played this game a long time, evidently he thinks enchanters are better, yet he is arguing that they are worse?

Bet he wishes he had root instead of stun and nuked for 150 less dmg :rolleyes:
 
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j000 d000d

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Patch just came - now i can solo epic mobs with met pet-only damage shield \o/

Well, solo...... just with a druid and warden helping :)
 
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Draigo

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Nahh they need bolts and a dmg shield equal the cabbies sim and throw in some leather or chain armour as well pls :clap:
 
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old.SadonTheGrey

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Hehe, well at least this debate didn't end with us ripping each other's throats out ><
 
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mustrum

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Originally posted by old.Gombur Glodson
Debate? Where? Where?

Hard to have a debate when hibs keep avoiding the Topic.

Specially when the Topic consists entierly of "Honk"

-Honk
 
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