Holy Depleted Uranium, Batman: Another war thread?

[nath]

I can't help but think it's intended to dramatise, thus take away the realism of the situation. Why else have music over it?

 

[Tom]

Part of the reason music is used is to help identify the BBCs brand image. Everyone knows that particular jingle.

 

[nath]

But there's music over *every* channel, it's not all memorable.

Actually I don't remember any one particular news jingle.

Oh yeah, I remember news 24 one now.. but that's it.

 

[Tom]

The BBC news jingle, and the ITN news at 10, are the most obvious ones.

 

[kameleon]

theyve even got dolphin warmongers now

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apmideast_story.asp?category=1107&slug=War Iraq Dolphins

 

[bigfoot]

hoggs - didn't Sky News pixel the faces until the US gave them the okay to un-pixel them?

 

[isuck]

"They're POW's and its against the geneva convention, but urm when we take people prisoner we call them urm 'guests' so we can chain them up in planes and deny them basic human rights."

'Bush is another word for cunt'

Saddam is a psychopath.

All i fear for is the british forces over there.
I mean, they dont just have the Iraqi's to worry about with "is ff on?" americans prancing about. the tards.

p.s. If anyone finds my point could ya let me know. I cant even remember what thread this is.

best video game?

 

[Durzel]

One thing is for sure, as the allied troops get closer to Baghdad theres gonna be some serious casualties.

 

[PR.]

Originally posted by bigfoot
hoggs - didn't Sky News pixel the faces until the US gave them the okay to un-pixel them?

Not at first no, they cut straight to Al-Jazeera TV when the pictures were first shown, they had a bloke being asked how he "Liked the Iraqi people?" in appalling english with about 40+ other people shouting over him, then they cut to what I think was the temporary morgue, with some marine laying there, at which point SkyNews realised this footage was a bit to raw and cut it off

 

[maxi--]

For what its worth, I believe the media (the UK media at least - cant speak for US) has been largely impartial, thorough and not sensationalist at all

i watched the News thing with Trevor McDonald last night, it was cringingly obvious what was going on,

Its all Propaganda bullshit, mostly.

'iaqi people liberated' with kids smiling for the camera? haha, fair enough, but we wont see the flipside.

No the western news channels are NOT Being impartial, not one little bit. I find it funny that so many people swallow it so EASILY.

Im not a conspircy theory nut, but what we are being shown, and how it is shown to us is JUST as much part of the war-effort as the guys fighting in the streets.

News Channels are foever going on about how Iraq are using their news channels for propaganda, it should be clear that is exactly what the western(us/uk in particular) are going to do, with just as much effectiveness.

And these guys arent stupid, they know what'll turn people in their favour, and what'll get them riled, Mistreatment of PoWs? PERFECT for rallying public support, liberating the children of iraq, again SPOT ON.
but the US/UK bombing civilians, killing them in cross fire, dead bodies of these liberated people(killed by the allied forces), that wouldnt be so good, so we wont see that.

 

[PR.]

Yes your right Maxi--, we have seen the smilingfaces of people in Umm Quasr, but we didn't see the saddam supporters in Jordan saying they will fight for him, nor did we see the furious people in Bahgdad carrying their dead in caskets through the streets nor did we see the people saying they hate Saddam but don't want the Americans to help, nor have we heard the stupid friendly fire incidents that have happened.... Oh no wait... we have

 

[*Exor*]

Nath, you're a total girly faggot. Go and burn your bra!

 

[nath]

Only if you rub your cock in it first :|

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by maxi--
i watched the News thing with Trevor McDonald last night, it was cringingly obvious what was going on,

heh

I've done a fair bit of work for Tonight with Trevor, its pretty much a tabloid news programme unfortunately.

 

[Lester]

Stop knocking tabloids. They have boobs in.

 

[Wij]

Tonight...

Trev0r McDonalds b00behs !

 

[xane]

Originally posted by Perplex
Again I'm forced to say: Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, 1000 Afghanistani PoWs, people, glass houses, stones

Didn't the US Government try and get those pictures censored tho ?

Originally posted by Durzel
To be honest, all of the above is moot anyway since Iraq never signed the Geneva Convention.

I think you'll find they did.

 

[nath]

afaik, it wasn't the shots of prisoners at camp xray that was the violation. They weren't held as POW's and they weren't held as State crims. Thus the americans invented some completely new classification that allowed them to do anything they wanted with the suspects. Quite right too as anyone who can do such horrific things as 9/11 deserves no better. And if you happen to be not guilty, well it's your own fault for being muslim and looking the part. SARCASM SMILEY ----------> <-------------

 

[Ash!]

Originally posted by maxi--
i watched the News thing with Trevor McDonald last night, it was cringingly obvious what was going on,

Its all Propaganda bullshit, mostly.
.

Spot on Maxi. I think people forget the power the media have in terms of influencing public opinion for their own political agenda.

 

[Ash!]

Originally posted by nath
[B. And if you happen to be not guilty, well it's your own fault for being muslim and looking the part. [/B]

And so speaks the voice of reason. Is it any wonder the arab world holds the west in such contempt ?

 

[xane]

Originally posted by nath
Quite right too as anyone who can do such horrific things as 9/11 deserves no better. And if you happen to be not guilty, well it's your own fault for being muslim and looking the part.

You need the smiley methinks ?

 

[xane]

Originally posted by widow-maker
Spot on Maxi. I think people forget the power the media have in terms of influencing public opinion for their own political agenda.

Everybody does this, you can pull out anti- quotes on anything from people like John Pilger, Robert Fisk, Michael Moore, etc, it works both ways.

 

[nath]

Originally posted by xane
You need the smiley methinks ?

Yeah but I thought the absurdity of the comment simply spoke for itself.. didn't it?

 

[dysfunction]

Originally posted by nath
Yeah but I thought the absurdity of the comment simply spoke for itself.. didn't it?

If it did I didnt hear it.

..

 

[Chameleon]

Originally posted by nath
Bif, I'm not going on about which side the media portrays.. but the fact that it appears to have no respect for the horror of it. They have shown the odd nasty thing, but on the whole it's exciting war fun!

And as you say, I'm sure the average grunt gets an adrenaline rush out of it, but war is still a terrible thing, something which I fear maybe lost on some people: and also maybe reason people side so easily for war.. because it doesn't seem like a big deal.

.. so I suppose I am going on about which side the media portrays

The media can only report as broad as view as possible of what's going on out there. It's not for them to influence people's thoughts on it, just report it and let people make their own minds up. Maybe what we've seen so far doesn't quiet fit in with the anti-war stance on what would/will happen as a result, so you don't like it much? Just a thought.
It is dramatised to an extent .... but that's tele for ya. I don't think that in itself influences anyones opinion on war one way or another though. I credit people with a bit more gumption than that.

 

[maxi--]

Originally posted by Ch@meleon
The media can only report as broad as view as possible of what's going on out there. It's not for them to influence people's thoughts on it, just report it and let people make their own minds up. Maybe what we've seen so far doesn't quiet fit in with the anti-war stance on what would/will happen as a result, so you don't like it much? Just a thought.
It is dramatised to an extent .... but that's tele for ya. I don't think that in itself influences anyones opinion on war one way or another though. I credit people with a bit more gumption than that.

Not at all true, any kid doing GCSE history could tell you about propoganda in WW2. Its still the same today, because propaganda works.

The media in this country is not reporting a broad view. Their exact aim is to influence our views, thats why they're given permission to film B52s taking off, smiling iraqi children, and PoW.

 

[Furr]

Just think that in 10-15 years children will be learning about this war in history class!

Also the french and russians are gay. Blow them both up

 

[Ash!]

Hence the tagline-This is brought to you under Iraqi or coalition reporting restrictions

 

[Lester]

Well imo the BBC are actually a bit too pro-Iraqi. Just call that the brainwashed, addled, middle-class mind of someone who used to live near there.

 

[xane]

Originally posted by Lester
Well imo the BBC are actually a bit too pro-Iraqi.

Are talking about the same BBC that has Alan Yentob as DG, being pro-Iraqi ?