Hitler debate! Yei!

[Bugz]

Yes yes, second hand smoke kills, yada yada, drinkers kill people by fights, murderers have knives, ban knives, etc.

Another topic and many have been about it.

This is not. Can respect that can you?

I think you're examples show it isn't worth argueing about for myself

 

[old.Tohtori]

I think you're examples show it isn't worth argueing about for myself

Oooh i could argue, but it's raining snow, it's a friday, i'm slightly beginning to feel the toxicating effects of "starter" drinks and umm...err...

wait a moment...

*has a drink*

But this ain't the thread for it. Tomorrow we can make another "smoking bad" thread and then i can link to a funny comedian talking about it

 

[Bugz]

Oooh i could argue, but it's raining snow, it's a friday, i'm slightly beginning to feel the toxicating effects of "starter" drinks and umm...err...

wait a moment...

*has a drink*

But this ain't the thread for it. Tomorrow we can make another "smoking bad" thread and then i can link to a funny comedian talking about it

I'll be sleeping all day tomorrow

Can't we make it sunday...

 

[old.Tohtori]

I'll be sleeping all day tomorrow

Can't we make it sunday...

I'll be hung over from saturday party then...monday?

 

[Bugz]

I'll be hung over from saturday party then...monday?

Alrighty!

Note: Every single party i've been to (about 6 because I have few friends ) have been on a friday. What's this saturday lark!

 

[old.Tohtori]

Alrighty!

Note: Every single party i've been to (about 6 because I have few friends ) have been on a friday. What's this saturday lark!

People are "tired" or some gay sh*t like that on fridays...dunno...something about "work" or...whatnot. *shrug*

 

[Chronictank]

if they are good they obviously arnt a chav.

wearing shit clothes is part of being a chav, not what makes you a chav.

the whole package or not at all.

speaking a certain way, wearing certain clothes etc etc do make you a chav for all intents and purposes, but that is a pretty long way off topic.

You guys are saying it is ok to kill a target group because they dont fit into your "ideal world" philosophy, hitler believed exactly the same thing.. without the Jews the world would be a better place, equally nowdays terrorist organsations have the same philosphy, i have mentioned only 2 examples of groups people here including yourself from previous posts demonise, and say are wrong..
yet here you are condoning killing people because you dont like them

If you are happy to accept killing chav's, then you should equally be willing to say that Hitler wasnt wrong for what he did

 

[tris-]

afaik jews didnt make the world a shit place.

chavs do on a daily basis, so i dont think its ok to compare. though i get what your saying.

 

[Bugz]

afaik jews didnt make the world a shit place.

chavs do on a daily basis, so i dont think its ok to compare. though i get what your saying.

Well said.

Jews did sweet FA to Hitler - whereas chavs are a fkin nuisance day in, day out.

Edit - when we say chavs, we also generally don't mean those that do nothing except wear the clothing and mind their own business. We are mainly talking of the ones that pick fights, create social problems etc. etc.

 

[Aiteal]

Were the jews Hitlers' Chavs?

Racism is frowned upon
The only outlet for some people is to assume that all working class white males are pig ignorant chavs and the girls are easy lays.

If the chavscum website was to show pictures of people of an ethnic rather than a social group with the sort of comments that people add there, it would probably be considered a hate website, as opposed to somewhere the lower middle classes can let all their horrible little predujdices hang out for all to see.

It's nothing new
Anti-semitism is also frowned upon, but I've noticed a rather rabid ignorance of anything catholic amoungst white middle class english friends.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Yes but in -that- day and age, in nazi germany, jews WERE a nuisance.

They WERE thought as problem figures, much like chavs are seen in england.

So if these days someone did say it's "free kill chav day", it wouldn't be frowned upon, which makes it rather silly

 

[Bugz]

Yes but in -that- day and age, in nazi germany, jews WERE a nuisance.

They WERE thought as problem figures, much like chavs are seen in england.

So if these days someone did say it's "free kill chav day", it wouldn't be frowned upon, which makes it rather silly

They were seen as problem figures but from what i've been taught and know, they did very little wrong to receive the punishments they had to endure.

Chavs, on the other hand, are problem figures and cause problems. The Prime Minister recognises this and the middle class recogonises this (less likely the upper class because they don't have the honor of living close to/coming into contact with the notorious chav).

There's some chavs down my town that are fine. They hang about late at night and have nowhere to go but they don't start fights/become nuisances etc.

However, there's chavs in my gf's town that start fights, smash cars up for no reason etc.

I don't believe we should kill every chav but certainly, it's going to do more good than harm to round up every notorious chav and shoot his brains out onto the floor. After all, we do this with the intention of making our town's a nicer place to live and in effect stopping them from hurting others etc. Hitler and the Nazi's on the other hand, persecuted jews because of mainly obsessive and racial beliefs that Jews were the 'racial enemy.'

I don't think you can compare chavs and jews enough to make a direct comparison.

 

[Chronictank]

They were seen as problem figures but from what i've been taught and know, they did very little wrong to receive the punishments they had to endure.

And on what evidence is this based?, the fact that very little information came out of germany and most the important documents were destroyed before the occupation means you have a very one sided view of the matter.

Chavs, on the other hand, are problem figures and cause problems. The Prime Minister recognises this and the middle class recogonises this (less likely the upper class because they don't have the honor of living close to/coming into contact with the notorious chav).

There's some chavs down my town that are fine. They hang about late at night and have nowhere to go but they don't start fights/become nuisances etc.

However, there's chavs in my gf's town that start fights, smash cars up for no reason etc.

I don't believe we should kill every chav but certainly, it's going to do more good than harm to round up every notorious chav and shoot his brains out onto the floor. After all, we do this with the intention of making our town's a nicer place to live and in effect stopping them from hurting others etc. Hitler and the Nazi's on the other hand, persecuted jews because of mainly obsessive and racial beliefs that Jews were the 'racial enemy.'

All drivvel, you have no real proof that chav's are the cause of the majority of trouble in your area let alone the uk you are only guessing,
nor do you have proof that some jewish people werent causing problems in Germany at the time, again you are only guessing.

How do you know they were stating fights for no reason, or smashing cars? did you ask them? again you are guessing
How do you even know they are chav's? after all as stated earlier just your looks doesnt make you a chav
You also seem to ignore the fact that alot of "chav's" come from middle/upper class homes as well.. so you are just plain wrong on that point

If someone was to
"shoot your brains out onto the floor", extend that to everyone who dresses like you, talks like you blah blah blah
i can garuntee there would be little difference to society as a whole.
Doesnt change the fact it is any less wrong or hypocritical

just because you aim it toward another target group which seems to be more acceptable to hate on these forums doesnt make it any less unjustified

Racism is frowned upon
The only outlet for some people is to assume that all working class white males are pig ignorant chavs and the girls are easy lays.

If the chavscum website was to show pictures of people of an ethnic rather than a social group with the sort of comments that people add there, it would probably be considered a hate website, as opposed to somewhere the lower middle classes can let all their horrible little predujdices hang out for all to see.

It's nothing new
Anti-semitism is also frowned upon, but I've noticed a rather rabid ignorance of anything catholic amoungst white middle class english friends.

spot on,
Its EXACTLY the same as what happened in germany,
chav's are demonised in the media making it socially acceptable to hate them

 

[Bugz]

And on what evidence is this based?, the fact that very little information came out of germany and most the important documents were destroyed before the occupation means you have a very one sided view of the matter.

All drivvel, you have no real proof that chav's are the cause of the majority of trouble in your area let alone the uk you are only guessing,
nor do you have proof that some jewish people werent causing problems in Germany at the time, again you are only guessing.

If someone was to
"shoot your brains out onto the floor", extend that to everyone who dresses like you, talks like you blah blah blah
i can garuntee there would be little difference to society as a whole.
Doesnt change the fact it is any less wrong or hypocritical

just because you aim it toward another target group which seems to be more acceptable to hate on these forums doesnt make it any less unjustified

Want to provide the evidence to why us killing chavs and Hitler are the same?

The sole fact is you can't. You criticise all us (some of us have MORE experiance with crime than you so ill ignore your comments about that ) yet you come out with the same 'dribble' as us in which sense you can't back up what you say - yet you still take a side on the matter.

yet here you are condoning killing people because you dont like them

I ALMOST certainly feel the way I do because i 'dislike' them. News-flash inc to you - we don't want to get rid of chavs because we 'dislike' them. We want to get rid of them because they cause issues. See the news today? 4 hooded yobs killing the dad of 3. Or the cab attacks by large gangs of yobs? There is no denying that yobs/chavs (whatever the fuck you want to call them) are taking a huge uprising in England, partly down to this American influence of gang culture. Sure, my opinions relate to only the area I live in - but it's not rocket science to realise it happens elsewhere too.

If you reply with 'OMGZ SOURCES PLX!11' then you're oblivious to the truth. Not everything needs sources. After all they say a large amount of them are made up (Will I have to back that up with a source too?). Sources are not entirely trusthworthy and experiance goes hand in hand.

To be honest, it sounds to me like you're living in some nice, quiet area with fuck all experiance of chavs/hoodies, in which case you can't even begin to compare Hitler & Chavs.

How do you know they were stating fights for no reason, or smashing cars? did you ask them? again you are guessing
How do you even know they are chav's? after all as stated earlier just your looks doesnt make you a chav

Dude, all you can answer with is your silly questions. The first answer is I know because I happened to be on the receiving end. But yes, i'm guessing lol... Second answer is 'chavs' is a generic term as I explained before. Not all chavs are bad as I explained before.

Don't even reply to this post as i know it'll be 'how do you know' shit again.

 

[Lamp]

Why not just replace FH banner with a Swastika and be done with it

 

[Bugz]

I sounded like a twat in that last post but I was quite angered by the way you push everything aside because it doesn't contain a source. Personal experiance teaches you just as much as a source from a random government official.

Apologies for the way I come across anywho but please try to give a more thought-provoking arguement instead of a series of 'how do you know's' and 'sources please.'

 

[Ctuchik]

Was part of my GCSE Hitlers Mum was ill a Jewish doctor gave here a experimental treatment that caused her alot of pain and she died. From that point on Hitler was very anti Jew of course as he never said what made him hate Jews this is just Historians speculation

funily enough as he was half jew himself

 

[Fahdlan]

I hate hitler, I hate nazis.

I recently lost my grandfather who fought for norway during the wwar2.
he was the toughest man I have ever met.
he used to tell me stories about the nazis.

I did hate german people for what their leader did,

found out I can't blame the sons and daugthers and grandsons, if you know what I mean.

I love my country style person I'am.

 

[Garaen]

This thread is pretty disgusting.

Debating whether genocide and mass murder is acceptable? ...

Next week we can have a thread that questions whether people would like, if they could, to kill all black people; because we all know black people enjoy selling drugs and shooting people. Or why not immigrants? We all know they are destroying our country and stealing our jobs. The media say they are so it must be true!

 

[Ctuchik]

This thread is pretty disgusting.

Debating whether genocide and mass murder is acceptable? ...

Next week we can have a thread that questions whether people would like, if they could, to kill all black people; because we all know black people enjoy selling drugs and shooting people. Or why not immigrants? We all know they are destroying our country and stealing our jobs. The media say they are so it must be true!

yeah, and taking everything u read on a forum seriously is ALSO a fucking great idea, dont ya think?

 

[Garaen]

yeah, and taking everything u read on a forum seriously is ALSO a fucking great idea, dont ya think?

This is supposed to be a discussion, from some of the posts i've read it seems as if people are being very serious. I apologise if i can't but help finding mass murder and genocide 'serious'.

 

[Jupitus]

Why not just replace FH banner with a Swastika and be done with it

Lamp -pls chill out - I agree that this thread is too provocative to stay.

Guys - this is too close to the 'extreme political views' statement in the COC. It's getting closed.

Seel - you are stepping over the line a bit, stop it pls.