Science Higgs Boson found?

[Tuthmes]

For anyone wondering what it looks like:

 

[Cadelin]

awesome work Cadelin. You guys need another HPC grid specialist to help with that compute malarky give me a shout ;-)

Quite a lot of jobs in HPC are advertised. We are still allowed to recruit there because the government knows that it if the worse comes to the worse those employees can be put on other government tasks. The problem is you will look at the job specifications and think, they want those qualifications and are only offering to pay that?!

I understand its a big find even if i don't understand what it really is. Will it have any impact on or lives in the long run? does it mean we will be able to invent new things etc.

Or just research knowledge only?

On our lives, unlikely. If you take the example of the positron (the anti electron). This is now used in PET scanners. The positron was discovered in 1931. The PET scanner became 'common' in about the year 2000, so a 70 year lag between discovery and being useful.

X-rays were discovered in 1895, in the 1940s X-ray machines started to be used so 50 year lag.

We don't know what the Higgs can do yet, but I would expect the Higgs or any of the new particles to be discovered, if they have useful propoerties to actually have an impact on peoples lives for 50+ years.

To be honest the Higgs is just the first step. When the LHC was built, it was designed to be able to confirm or disprove the existence of the Higgs, which it has achieved but there are so many other things its capable of.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Yes. Ofcourse Cadelin. It can't do anything for a long time. *coughcough* Now where did you say that vacation home of yours was? You know, this one;

 

[Wij]

Gratz

So what does this mean now ?

Bigger tits!

 

[Cyradix]

It gives mass to matter right? (Higgs field)
So if you could somehow manipulate it locally you would have a disintigrator as matter couldn't exist at that location right?
That can't be good

 

[rynnor]

It gives mass to matter right? (Higgs field)
So if you could somehow manipulate it locally you would have a disintigrator as matter couldn't exist at that location right?
That can't be good

If you could manipulate it on a large enough scale presumably you could form a singularity.

Might get a bit messy at that point but it might enable you to test one of the theories of time.

 

[Gray]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18708626

He's ace

 

[Job]

Time only happens because we can remember where matter was before and can anticipate it moving somewhere else.
Remember, the only difference between now and a billion years ago is everything is in a different place.

 

[chipper]

so does every atom contain 1 or more higgs bosons? more higgs = higher mass? so if you remove the higgs you remove its mass effectively making the atom massless like a photon? (or am i thinking too big is it the component parts of an atom that contain the higgs boson) but you also remove its ability to stick to any other atom meaning complex structures are impossible to make?

so its applications could be realistically making things heavier or lighter? or as said horrific weaponary

 

[Wij]

Diet pills then?

 

[Raven]

Remove Higgs Boson from a person, send person as pure energy over a distance, replace said Higgs Boson. Star Trek.

I should work at CERN.

 

[Reno]

Now if someone were to invent the Heisenberg Compensator we'd be almost there!

I'm patenting the name right now, so Apple can't ( screw you Trek writers).

 

[BloodOmen]

Remove Higgs Boson from a person, send person as pure energy over a distance, replace said Higgs Boson. Star Trek.

I should work at CERN.

Yes, we all know how that will end up

 

[Cyradix]

so does every atom contain 1 or more higgs bosons? more higgs = higher mass? so if you remove the higgs you remove its mass effectively making the atom massless like a photon? (or am i thinking too big is it the component parts of an atom that contain the higgs boson) but you also remove its ability to stick to any other atom meaning complex structures are impossible to make?

so its applications could be realistically making things heavier or lighter? or as said horrific weaponary

Can't be that simple. I have no background in any of this and struggling quiet a bit to understand it all but from what I saw of the presentation the higgs has about 133 times the mass of a proton which makes it heavier than some atoms no?
So for me this means it just can't be part of matter as a particle can't be heavier than the atom it's part of right?
Gaaah... getting headache
So matter gets its mass by its interaction with the higgs field? Then where is the higgs particle???
Is it some quantum thing where it is just everywhere and only interacts via its field?
More headaches!!!

 

[Job]

Doing anything to a Higgs at the moment is a bit difficult as we've only found it's tyre tracks so far.

 

[Lamp]

50 years? I bet Apple will still be suing everyone claiming they've infringed various non-existent patents on their technology

 

[Job]

Remove Higgs Boson from a person, send person as pure energy over a distance, replace said Higgs Boson. Star Trek.

I should work at CERN.

Interesting theory, but where would the information to rebuild you come from? Maybe it's is or can be stored in the protons.

 

[JBP|]

We can have floaty skateboards like in that Back To The Future pt II \o/

 

[AngelHeal]

Finally, I can speak about it! We were all given fairly clear instructions that leaking anything would be very bad for us...

We finished taking the data on the 18th June and its been rather busy since. Our analysis which will come out at the end of July are a lot more advanced and will clarify lots more.

I was actually a bit worried that CMS would have a better result than us but ATLAS was better even though we had less stuff finished. There is a slight difference in philosophy, CMS release information promptly, ATLAS can take more time but when its done it is normally a bit better. Its remarkably close how similar the performance of the experiments is.



We have found the Higgs boson, we just don't know if its the Standard Model Higgs. Until we measure the properties of it, we won't know exactly what it is. It may have additional properties but the ones we know it does have make it the Higgs.

I reckon I deserve a custom title. "Discovered Higgs Boson"

U work at CERN? or u need to stop talking about us, or start using quotations

and if u do work at cern.. GRATZ

 

[Raven]

Yeah he does.

 

[AngelHeal]

Yeah he does.

impressive,


so can this little thingy make daoc 2?

 

[opticle]

Can someone please explain wtf the Higgs is. I too am confused as Cyradix RE: the Mass of a proton thing..

 

[Edmond]

 

[Lamp]

They found the Higgs Boson, which is a trillion times as tiny as the smallest subatomic particle, but no one can find the g-spot...

 

[Cyradix]

 

[old.Tohtori]

What is that .gif? I need it for work, my captain kirk fingerpistol isn't always apt

NEvermind, found it, stupid seel not googling first.

 

[Raven]

Oh America, you are dumb.

 

[Edmond]

What is that .gif? I need it for work, my captain kirk fingerpistol isn't always apt

NEvermind, found it, stupid seel not googling first.

Its from the 1st series of The IT Crowd, Chris Morris's character jumps out the window

 

[Edmond]

Oh America, you are dumb.

...and these people are running the world

 

[TdC]

Quite a lot of jobs in HPC are advertised. We are still allowed to recruit there because the government knows that it if the worse comes to the worse those employees can be put on other government tasks. The problem is you will look at the job specifications and think, they want those qualifications and are only offering to pay that?!

hehe well one can dream. I have a deal with my mum that while she's alive I will not leave the country. I'll honor that unless the offer's so attractive that I'm forced to kill her ;-)