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old.m0000
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CALL THE POLICE NOVA HAS HIJACKED THE THREAD
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Novamir
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I think it's a much needed hijack, considering 
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ab_fluid
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OFC, read my otherr posts, i fucking hate cheats, but to slag off our 3fg for being able to wipe 80 albs THATS NOT OUR FAULT, you should have had people on lookdout, not been afk whatever.
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ab_fluid
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You 100% muppet, act on facts not rumors, fyi Brimwolf was not the first to comment on the RR nor was he the first to know, he got caught up in this not out of hisown gain but because he isn't a dick, you deserve ur account banning for spreading blatent bullshit about soemthing u obviously have no idea, now pelase go get your facts straight then come back and make a decent post.
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bellum
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I have nothing against they banning Brimwolf, all should be banned that spread the word.
I would have nothing against they banning those acting on spie aswell... those "Brave" hibs that killed those Albs.
I just hope GOA do some real thing now and shows that spieing has a price that might not be worth it.
<Excalibur Albion> <First Cohort>
Bellum - Theurgist Level 50
Dhs - Wizard Level 50
Musket - Minstrel Level 24
Spi - Infiltrator Level 30
I would have nothing against they banning those acting on spie aswell... those "Brave" hibs that killed those Albs.
I just hope GOA do some real thing now and shows that spieing has a price that might not be worth it.
<Excalibur Albion> <First Cohort>
Bellum - Theurgist Level 50
Dhs - Wizard Level 50
Musket - Minstrel Level 24
Spi - Infiltrator Level 30
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CBH_Popov
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Can I first state that I hate spy's and they should all jump in a lake of sulphuric acid (plenty in Scandanavia I believe) and take a long bath however what on Earth is all this crap about demanding people be banned for daring to post a spys info on /as ?
I'm convinced I have read something officially stated by Mythic or GOA on spying to the effect of spying being acceptable or even encouraged HOWEVER what is not acceptable and is banable is having 2 accounts on the same server for the purposes of spying on another realm. Thast's it - looking at the guy sitting next to you's screen in a cybercafe, getting info from a gullible member of another realm is perfectly acceptable in the eyes of the games creators (suck though it may)
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Found what I seemed to remember reading, not entirely as I stated above but here it is for your viewing pleasure (yes I know this was not cross teaming)
A Clarification on Inter-realm cooperation
from Jeff Hickman
2002-04-24 09:51:26
We are making a small change to the Rules of Conduct in an effort to clarify what we consider accepatable and not.
The change is being made, not as a change in policy, but as a clarification on how we already support and enforce things within the game. The change is as follows:
Prohibited Conduct
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PLAYER MAY NOT USE THE DAoC SERVICES TO:
18. You may NOT cross-team spy. This means you are not allowed to have characters in different realms on the same server (usually used for the purpose of spying on opposing realms). This includes characters on different accounts. However, we will not discourage 2 realms from cooperating with each other against a 3rd (commonly referred to as cross-teaming), as long as you do not act against your home-realm. While we want all 3 realms to wage war against each other, there are times when a little cooperation is appropriate. "Cross-teaming" in this manner is not a violation of our rules.
I hope that this clarifies our support policy a little better for everyone.
-Jeff
I'm convinced I have read something officially stated by Mythic or GOA on spying to the effect of spying being acceptable or even encouraged HOWEVER what is not acceptable and is banable is having 2 accounts on the same server for the purposes of spying on another realm. Thast's it - looking at the guy sitting next to you's screen in a cybercafe, getting info from a gullible member of another realm is perfectly acceptable in the eyes of the games creators (suck though it may)
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Found what I seemed to remember reading, not entirely as I stated above but here it is for your viewing pleasure (yes I know this was not cross teaming)
A Clarification on Inter-realm cooperation
from Jeff Hickman
2002-04-24 09:51:26
We are making a small change to the Rules of Conduct in an effort to clarify what we consider accepatable and not.
The change is being made, not as a change in policy, but as a clarification on how we already support and enforce things within the game. The change is as follows:
Prohibited Conduct
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PLAYER MAY NOT USE THE DAoC SERVICES TO:
18. You may NOT cross-team spy. This means you are not allowed to have characters in different realms on the same server (usually used for the purpose of spying on opposing realms). This includes characters on different accounts. However, we will not discourage 2 realms from cooperating with each other against a 3rd (commonly referred to as cross-teaming), as long as you do not act against your home-realm. While we want all 3 realms to wage war against each other, there are times when a little cooperation is appropriate. "Cross-teaming" in this manner is not a violation of our rules.
I hope that this clarifies our support policy a little better for everyone.
-Jeff
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old.Nol
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You really should read the whole story before you come to insane conclusions.
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old.Icebreaker
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Yes bellum, let's get this ALB banned forever
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mallan
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13. Termination
* Either you or Mythic may terminate your Account, for any reason, without further obligation to the other. Further, Mythic reserves the right to terminate the Game at any time without further obligation to you.
* As way of example, Mythic may terminate this Agreement (including your Software license and your Account) immediately and/or terminate or temporarily suspend your access to the Game, without notice if Mythic believes, in its sole discretion, that your conduct (including but not limited to gameplay, chat or any other player activity) is unacceptable and/or inappropriate or for conduct which Mythic believes (a) breaches the terms and conditions of this Agreement, (b) repeatedly infringes any third party intellectual property rights; (c) in violation of the spirit of the Game; (d) is harmful to Mythic or other users of the Game (e) lying, misleading or otherwise providing false information to Mythic personnel.
Spying i would say is not in the spirit of the game and also using said information and as such without naming them (cough as many hibs as possible) BAN every last fucking sad lamo hib who used this information to stuff up a RR.
Flame away twats!!
* Either you or Mythic may terminate your Account, for any reason, without further obligation to the other. Further, Mythic reserves the right to terminate the Game at any time without further obligation to you.
* As way of example, Mythic may terminate this Agreement (including your Software license and your Account) immediately and/or terminate or temporarily suspend your access to the Game, without notice if Mythic believes, in its sole discretion, that your conduct (including but not limited to gameplay, chat or any other player activity) is unacceptable and/or inappropriate or for conduct which Mythic believes (a) breaches the terms and conditions of this Agreement, (b) repeatedly infringes any third party intellectual property rights; (c) in violation of the spirit of the Game; (d) is harmful to Mythic or other users of the Game (e) lying, misleading or otherwise providing false information to Mythic personnel.
Spying i would say is not in the spirit of the game and also using said information and as such without naming them (cough as many hibs as possible) BAN every last fucking sad lamo hib who used this information to stuff up a RR.
Flame away twats!!
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old.Mitsu
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Here's a free hint:
F8 - stick - slam.
F8 - stick - slam.
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bellum
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Yes I want both Albs and Hibs involved banned.
Let GOA check it up and start deleting chars, thats my points of view. If they removes the Albion char aswell I will be even more happy.
And to those hibs that cant understand, what would you think if Albion got a spie working an killed all your relicraids ? not so fun maybe.
<Excalibur Albion> <First Cohort>
Bellum - Theurgist Level 50
Dhs - Wizard Level 50
Musket - Minstrel Level 24
Spi - Infiltrator Level 30
Let GOA check it up and start deleting chars, thats my points of view. If they removes the Albion char aswell I will be even more happy.
And to those hibs that cant understand, what would you think if Albion got a spie working an killed all your relicraids ? not so fun maybe.
<Excalibur Albion> <First Cohort>
Bellum - Theurgist Level 50
Dhs - Wizard Level 50
Musket - Minstrel Level 24
Spi - Infiltrator Level 30
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LOL its been done all the time...moron
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old.Nol
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I've got a great plan, lets ban the whole of Hibernia, CF alliance is the biggest alliance and saw info on a RR that was garnered from a dodgy source. That info would have surely made it's way over to the other alliances, hence all of Hibernia...surely there can be only one conclusion!!!
Ok, now wake up.
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mallan
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My point exactly sarcasm twat
Also amazes me so many regard themselves as a twat who'd of figured it.
I've got np with albs accounts being banned for same offence mids aswell.
sarcasm twatAlso amazes me so many regard themselves as a twat who'd of figured it.
I've got np with albs accounts being banned for same offence mids aswell.
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old.Nol
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Originally posted by mallan
My point exactly
Also amazes me so many regard themselves as a twat who'd of figured it.
I've got np with albs accounts being banned for same offence mids aswell.
but you made no point...you just want to ban lots of people without proof of anything, you haven't even read what people have said.
Oh, and call me kooky, but I still have no idea what a "sarcasm twat" is.
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old.fat
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1 sorc, 2 ice wizzes, 1cabby.
So they reckon that could kill 80 hibs HAHA not even if the hibs all ld'd would they. Hibs are blatently overpowered and need something done about them. eg there tanks can out tank any alb tank and there casters take the piss with dmg. as for there 95% resists. personally i find it a tad unfair when you nuke a blue hib for 40(-512) three times, they then turn around and nuke you for twice your hit points in one nuke and you got all magic resists maxed out.
So they reckon that could kill 80 hibs HAHA not even if the hibs all ld'd would they. Hibs are blatently overpowered and need something done about them. eg there tanks can out tank any alb tank and there casters take the piss with dmg. as for there 95% resists. personally i find it a tad unfair when you nuke a blue hib for 40(-512) three times, they then turn around and nuke you for twice your hit points in one nuke and you got all magic resists maxed out.
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elerand
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Ok, in purely legal terms the two statements end up contradicting each other, it's not illegal to pass on information, it is to cross team spy.
The spirit vs the letter of the game? Well I think the guy who actually did the spying needs a kick, if he happened to be a net cafe tho what's the big deal? So he has no ethics, certainly not a crime in this case, as shitty as it is I think there are a lot of people with 2 accounts on the same server who can do it on a whim.
Suppose all the hibs could have sat on their hands, let you walk away with the relic once the genie was out the bottle but would you?
And after being slaughtered by 2fg of hibs how were you planning to get thru the doors with a band so (apparently) nerfed pussy albs? Oh, your tough enough to do that but not tough enough to take 16 hibs? Makes perfect sense!
Somehow I think people have expectations of sheer numbers, that's a flaw, 6fg can be killed by half the number if they dont play well or worse case, happen to be afk feeding their cat, shagging their gf or tidying their bedroom before mom has a fit and cuts the internet for a month
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Its no one faults if albion doesnt have pbaoe. If it is anys fault its mythic for not making the pbaoe class a viable and fun class in albion to play.
Morph, you are so busy taunting albs for their failed relic raid that you forgot your brain at home.
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Trubble
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It does take the honour out of your amazing feat since your attack was based on a spys info.
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mallan
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Fao NOL
Sarcasm found in most good dictionaries=A keen, reproachful expression; a satirical remark uttered with some degree of scorn or contempt; a taunt; a gibe; a cutting jest.
thus (cough as many hibs as possible) sarcasm, i dont mean literaly banned all of hib.
And my point was as u so helpfully pointed out that ur /as was used to pass spying information to all in your alliance.
Now forgive me me for being naive but why is it everytime some1 points out the most obvious question I.E. Who spied/Passed on to /as all hibs reply 2fg owned 10fg albs tbh i dont give a damn about the owning thats not wot this post is about it's about spying naming and shaming.
You've had 7 pages so far to shame the twats involved u chosen not to. That to me says your more than happy to accept spying information. Why dont you name em and finish this thread and show that hib can be proud at showing they wont tolerate cheating of any kind.
Sarcasm found in most good dictionaries=A keen, reproachful expression; a satirical remark uttered with some degree of scorn or contempt; a taunt; a gibe; a cutting jest.
thus (cough as many hibs as possible) sarcasm, i dont mean literaly banned all of hib.
And my point was as u so helpfully pointed out that ur /as was used to pass spying information to all in your alliance.
Now forgive me me for being naive but why is it everytime some1 points out the most obvious question I.E. Who spied/Passed on to /as all hibs reply 2fg owned 10fg albs tbh i dont give a damn about the owning thats not wot this post is about it's about spying naming and shaming.
You've had 7 pages so far to shame the twats involved u chosen not to. That to me says your more than happy to accept spying information. Why dont you name em and finish this thread and show that hib can be proud at showing they wont tolerate cheating of any kind.
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old.Nol
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I know what sarcasm means, it's "sarcasm twat" that has me confused.
tbh - I don't have the inclination to cover what so many hibs have said already about scath's guards being pulled way before any spy was mentioned on /as.
I have already stated my feeling towards spys, ban them, if I had a name I would give it. There is only one person that knows the name, and it is not me.
If you refering to the 2fgs that pb'd you, then you can take their names from any of the half a dozen screenshots that have been posted, I doubt it would do much good, as I have already stated...we knew you were here way before, blaming them for your RR crew being foolishly short sighted is a bit lame. Consider what they did to you, even in a drunken state that should be impossible.
This same sense of dissappointment is what we were feeling after you ganked us from behind at grallar on saterday. You just gotta live with it mate...
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mallan
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Just 1 small note i havent accused any1 and as for the DS names tbh i've been killed many times by em and i dont think they need any info to find albs/mids they tend to be in emain 24/7 and tend to find more than enuff albs to play with. All us albs want r the names of the spy and the person who passed it onto /as that i think isnt too much to ask. relic raids r very hard to do and when 1 gets stuffed as this 1 did ppl get peeved.
Whether u knew there was a relic raid before spy information is debateable if the relic raid went as i assumed it did the first u would really of known about it was a load of albs on ur relic or maybe lag if ur in the right place at the right time. As for the guards being pulled etc maybes u knew mids/albs where after a keep that alas doesnt say they are after a relic.
I just hope some1 sees sense and sorts this as if this happens everytime theres a RR wots the point in them. Perhaps from now on all realm post here as to date time and relic they r going for that way no one can be accused of spying
BTW Gratz on the gank
Whether u knew there was a relic raid before spy information is debateable if the relic raid went as i assumed it did the first u would really of known about it was a load of albs on ur relic or maybe lag if ur in the right place at the right time. As for the guards being pulled etc maybes u knew mids/albs where after a keep that alas doesnt say they are after a relic.
I just hope some1 sees sense and sorts this as if this happens everytime theres a RR wots the point in them. Perhaps from now on all realm post here as to date time and relic they r going for that way no one can be accused of spying
BTW Gratz on the gank
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old.Nol
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As I said, I have no idea who the spy is, only Brimwolf does and he isn't telling. My suspicion is it's Wildfire again though
and that would be why there were only 2fg's of hibs, not 20.
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Originally posted by old.Nol
As I said, I have no idea who the spy is, only Brimwolf does and he isn't telling. My suspicion is it's Wildfire again though
If Brimwolf knows and isnt telling then he should be held responsible.
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old.Nol
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That is between Brim and GOA mate.
btw, for anyone silly enough to believe it, I was joking about Wildfire, to my knowledge he was not the spy this time...don't trust him however, his resists are awful...
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old.m0000
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fluid do u play like every realm on this server?
you seem to
you seem to
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old.Xanthian
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LOL
Albs you really do suck.
Can't admit that VGN truely OWNED you.
Stop crying about radar, and spies, its not hard to find 10fg of albs near Dadgda due to the zone lag you getting when running in a certain direction.
Albs you really do suck.
Can't admit that VGN truely OWNED you.
Stop crying about radar, and spies, its not hard to find 10fg of albs near Dadgda due to the zone lag you getting when running in a certain direction.
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This is silly, last week when we did a RR there was alot of mids/albs who turned out, alot more high levels than we really expected, wont say its a spy or whatever but still think its something fishy about this.
Not sure about what brim should do in this situation, after all your realm comes first before anything, just think about it, what would you do? i wouldnt blame brim like that. He should report this spy to goa and let them handle it from there, and post the replies he gets from them on barrysworld, maybe they do something about it and maybe they dont care. However i dont think its correct to tell the whole community about this guy, there is not much we could do about it expect to flame that guy, and that wont lead anywhere, just let GOA handle this.
As for all the albs that got killed by 2fgs VGN, well check THIS out, albs could do the same, it all depends on how you guys want to play, imo all realms can put up balanced groups and play the way they want it so they can success in RVR.
And last, to all the people who do relic raids: Please please please don't give up, this was brilliant planned and you are the ones who give that little "extra" to the game at this moment, please don't give it up, i truely /salute you for having the patience and willpower to help your realms out even tho there are some absolute twats in each guild who dont care about relics, just for their own fun.
My 2 cents.
Not sure about what brim should do in this situation, after all your realm comes first before anything, just think about it, what would you do? i wouldnt blame brim like that. He should report this spy to goa and let them handle it from there, and post the replies he gets from them on barrysworld, maybe they do something about it and maybe they dont care. However i dont think its correct to tell the whole community about this guy, there is not much we could do about it expect to flame that guy, and that wont lead anywhere, just let GOA handle this.
As for all the albs that got killed by 2fgs VGN, well check THIS out, albs could do the same, it all depends on how you guys want to play, imo all realms can put up balanced groups and play the way they want it so they can success in RVR.
And last, to all the people who do relic raids: Please please please don't give up, this was brilliant planned and you are the ones who give that little "extra" to the game at this moment, please don't give it up, i truely /salute you for having the patience and willpower to help your realms out even tho there are some absolute twats in each guild who dont care about relics, just for their own fun.
My 2 cents.
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I've hear from _very_ reliable sources that the spy is an aSq, most likely Karnage himself after seeing how he's acting here. It's always the guilty throwing the most shit on others to hide the truth, so please Karnage admit it... but if it isn't you stop protecting your shameless guildmates and search out this spy of yours and destroy him.
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Thank you, Tyka. I know Darksbane and Lac, like most relic raid organizers in most realms, put their heart and soul into this project. Everyone here is just so focused on the 2 FG Hibs > 10 FG Albs debate, they lose track of this.
/respect