Hello hibs

[-redb-]

Cba to read all this whine ^^ so dunno if this be's already saided or not, but's

The running 2fg recently isnt cos we dont think can kill the other "assist train" groups ina a fg fight. We just got pissed off with been added on all the time :> so just said would run 2fg.

Tis always the same, everyfight you get tis pretty much a guarentie 1fg+ will add on you before its over, and normaly not 1fg, more 2 or 3 fg's. I mean a couple days back met those pink sleeved mid ppl around lephs in emain, before fight was over, bo,mm and everlast had all manged to add on us. And that's not random gimps adding, thats high rr8+ fg's adding, cant do anythin when that happens (cept die and whine about it )

So try not to whine tooo much about 2fg now, cos you it seems you really dont know what its like running as a solo hib group in emain some times :>

(Btw, dont start thinking 2fg standared sillyness, we's always do many 1fg runs 1st, cos after all thats what we all like to do, but if its just too zergy/addy will just log or zerg)

:spin:

 

[zapzap]

People will play as they want I respect that.
I got np runing 2fg if thats what it takes but again HIB zerg > all
Just that hibs dont have the numbers to do that often so will they gain anything from it ?
When i begin seeing rr6+ hibs and they run 2fg only 1 way to answer 1) log or 2) counter it.

I fell for the hibs atm to few rvr groups same zone coz that what it takes. More groups same area adding happends which is naturel, saves RA makes groups survive longer ect and u can rez each other not run ligen > emain which is ZZZZZZZZZZ.

Zapsi

 

[zedorf luribomb]

Originally posted by faderullan
I have no problem with lower rr people who dont run in balanced groups to run in 2fg. Problem with hibs is that got access to group purge. And that makes it kinda impossible for any fg to have a chance.

kinda what redb said and...

hibs problem isnt fightin any of you guys 1fg vs 1fg, every fight iv had against you guys in our random tank group iv loved( cept the times you got daimx,dioz and rambo with you ), the thing we HATE is as soon as we start doing good in the battle all of us know we have a fg inc to add on us, bo,pe,sotl,avalanche,mael,everlast,baf doesnt matter, fight 1 start winning and you got 1 of the other groups ( from same realm ofc ) inc to add on you how fekkin FUN do you think it is to run emain all the time wanting to beat a good fg with a fg just to almost ALWAYS have the fight ruined? and yes we have beat you guys a few times with our random tank groupas so dont deny it

so would the solution to this be have more fg hibs runnin in emain so they/we can add on eachother? no it isnt! cause its FG fights we all want right? but you have proven it near impossible so tis time to change soon....

 

[Zarmin]

Uhm

Originally posted by xianghua
Finally some1 who got the point..
But dont even try to explain it to hibs they dont listen anyways
They will feel it in a few weeks when they can´t go emain anymore cuz its counterzerged by albs/mids since hibs started to run 2fg´s. Sad that its ppl like you and me that suffer from this most but whatever seems they want it this way

~Prydwen~
Xianghua Thunderer|Fun!
Nookah Brehon|PvE 4tehwin
~Excal~
Hatchetdwarf Isen Herra|bored of zerg
Seltir Flammen Vakten|bored of zerg

I reckon u guys should better pack your robes and move to play HL2 if u want a close space for your private battles, tbh i don't c the point on moaning on this particular from Mids / Albs. Was meant no offence to any1 btw.

 

[amazingsteve]

Originally posted by faderullan
Taregion: Please, cut the crap.

Facts, not crap.

And to the hibs that run 2fg. So if you cant beat us in 1fg vs 1fg, you have to run 2fg? Which we cant beat with 1fg. Then what has improved? Its still these fights who isnt fun when we know who is gonna win.

U can´t beat us when we run 2fg, we can´t beat u when we´re 1fg. Now the choice is to either run 1fg to get raped by ur 8+3 or to run 2fg and win. winning=good.

If you start zerg, mids and albs will do the same. Or at least mids as albs usually dont have the numbers out to do it. And as hibs got lesser numbers then both albs and mids, hibs will stand there losing in the end. And what has been achieved by then? Excal nr 2?

This just had me pissing in my pants laughing, albs don´t have the numbers

People like me are the big losers in the end. As i dont go in 2fg. Countless times have people asked me to move 2fg as the enemies zerg but i have always said no. I simply dont see the fun. And i know if i zerg, enemies will do it back and we are into a "evil" circle.

I don´t mind u to be the big loser, cos Hibs have been it long enough now.

And it is possible to kill my group with a fg hibs. Eclipse did it last night once. Learn from them.

once

There is no easy way to get a good group running. You got to work for it. And if you think run 2fg is the solution then you kinda "cheat". Its little like in boxing. If you add 40 kg muscles you cant play in your old weightclass.

using anything that is within the rules of the game is not considered cheating. We could run 15fg and still it wouldn´t be cheating.

I heard alb/excal moved hib/pryd. Go back to excal before you destroy our server please.

Well i certainly hope that Xianghua fucks off cos all he´s done so far is been kissing l33t groups ass.

 

[Zarmin]

Eheh

Originally posted by Scunner
all i can say is running 2 FG setups will result in the RvR guilds running 2FG setups and then no one on this server will havea chance so ur gonna have no fun and that apllies not to hibs but all realms.

If you think 1 FG of PE/everlast is bad think how hard 2 FG will be to take down.

Soon as one realm starts all will.

Yeah will be fun to run behind the other grp alone in the game

 

[Penitent]

Ascending Dawn, fellow Realm mates - you seem to be experiencing the same problem that Severance had a few months ago when we started RvR.

1)You try and give some decent competition to the Mids/Albs who moan "where's da hibbiz these days?"

2)You try to run 1fg for some decent 1fg vs 1fg fights, in an attempt to enjoy yourselves and maybe earn a little respect from Mids/Albs by at least giving it a go (against all odds).

3)You then try 1fg+/2fg because you're sick to the back qteeth of being pwned by fotm/unbeatably high RR groups night after night after night after night after night after night after night.

4)The zerg-flame thread is brought out by the same people who wanted you there in the first place, but you're now occassionally winning with your 1fg+/2fg, so they don't like it.

5)They then beat you into submission by constantly whining about you, or running as 2fg's themselves at prime-time to counter-act your "over-powered zerg".

6)Eventually you think "bollocks to this", start logging earlier and earlier and wonder why you bothered with step 1 in the first place.


Severance Group 1 will be back RvRing properly again soon (Step 2) with a slightly tweaked new group set up (mids/albs will be pleased to hear, I'm sure you've missed farming us for your next RR9 player). I'm pretty sure we will get to Step 6 again soon, until a Hib RvR-beneficial patch.

 

[-redb-]

Originally posted by faderullan
And it is possible to kill my group with a fg hibs. Eclipse did it last night once. Learn from them.

Hehe, i checked after that , your thue and sorc was both rs at start of fight, so i think's yous be let off :>

(that was the only fight we got without adds mind )

:spin:

 

[Edlina]

Originally posted by -redb-
Hehe, i checked after that , your thue and sorc was both rs at start of fight, so i think's yous be let off :>

(that was the only fight we got without adds mind )

:spin:

pff gimps, wees killed PE the other day, think it was saturday, with hib melee group and no rs enemies.

Only 1 BoF tho and we prolly got totally lucky since they raped us a few times as well (added alot with that green guild, Avalanche?, that night tho )

 

[umilard]

Play the game how _you_ want to play it, not how other people want you to play it..

If you feel like you need 2fg to compete.. please bring 2fg, it's not like the ultrabalanced alb and mid meleegroups have problems getting rp anyways.

 

[Piojo]

We started running 2fg after getting killed repeatedly thanks to adds everytime we went into a fight.

First fight we had with 2fg we killed all the albs in emain which was around 3fg and a fg of mids. All in one fight if we had been as 1fg we would have had no chance and then you moan about us running 2fg once every blue moon.

The funniest thing I found was dreami crying in irc about getting killed, jesus man I dont give a shit what you think if you can't take getting killed now and then don't play the game especially when you steamroll through most groups out there.

 

[razorboy]

Originally posted by Piojo
We started running 2fg after getting killed repeatedly thanks to adds everytime we went into a fight.

First fight we had with 2fg we killed all the albs in emain which was around 3fg and a fg of mids. All in one fight if we had been as 1fg we would have had no chance and then you moan about us running 2fg once every blue moon.

The funniest thing I found was dreami crying in irc about getting killed, jesus man I dont give a shit what you think if you can't take getting killed now and then don't play the game especially when you steamroll through most groups out there.

:great:

 

[old.Flamin]

Originally posted by Ardrias_Mid
Dark Age of Camelot - Where RvR means group versus group.

:spin:

 

[Cernos]

Originally posted by faderullan
If you start zerg, mids and albs will do the same. Or at least mids as albs usually dont have the numbers out to do it.

That has to be about the most ridiculous statement I think I've ever read here. Albs don't have enough numbers to zerg. Hilarious. Know any other good jokes?

Anyway, the reason for running 2FG is that it's very common to run into 2-4FG of Mids or Albs, and those groups who do run 1FG almost always have add groups close at hand (either by accident or design, it matters not).

People like me are the big losers in the end. As i dont go in 2fg.

No, but nor do you always go 1FG either. Funny how most fights with your group, a tag team of 3-4 (usually a mincer + extras) appears. Last 3 fights I've been in with your group, I counted 12 of you each time, and the extras weren't adds in the traditional sense, they were clearly working with you. Odd that isn't it for those who bang the 1FG drum the loudest to rarely actually really run 1FG.

Countless times have people asked me to move 2fg as the enemies zerg but i have always said no. I simply dont see the fun.

But having your tag team close at hand, just in case there's the slightest chance you might possibly lose a battle, that's ok is it?

There is no easy way to get a good group running. You got to work for it. And if you think run 2fg is the solution then you kinda "cheat".

Only by your narrow definition of the game as some kind of elitist 1FG playground. Go play Counterstrike if that's what you want.

Or at very very least, try practising what you preach and then your words might carry a bit more credibility.

 

[faderullan]

Im amazed that so many dislikes me this much. Many that i have no idea who they are

/hug to you all.

Just some love to cheer you up. You seem to need it.

Have a nice day my fellow daoc players.

 

[Edlina]

I tbh think people need to get just a little ittle bit over the PE stealther add thing, it's getting rly old, even if it does happen a lot or not.

 

[amazingsteve]

I see no reason to.
Mids/Albs still whine we don´t come to Emain.
Mids/ALbs still whine about zergs when we come to Emain.
Mids/Albs still whine enchanters are overpowered.
We still blame Derric.
All these things are old, but still we keep saying them.

 

[Dorin]

meep anyone who says to run as 1fg all the time is a bit silly...

[xianghua posting bullshit as always, well not a suprise... he is a bit reta*** :/

Fadeh you said try again if ganked by the enemy etc... well erm you can try again bla bla but if you are not rr7-rr9 + not in a guild grp that played together for 2months+, not in a perfectly balanced tank grp... no hell you can kill a savage grp or an alb tank grp. After being wiped 5-7 times by the same high rr grps you get the following conclusion: kk gunna log or get 2fg and lets killem at last...

Dont even compare excal to prydwen btw, excalibur is so much different... but thb m8 i barely see hib caster grp going 1fg there nowdays. (only rr8-rr10 ones, but we are speaking about low-mid rr here). If you wanna have fun as a hib caster , you are kinda forced to play in 2fg = thx savages, thx tank grps in general etc.

 

[VidX]

Originally posted by faderullan
I have no problem with lower rr people who dont run in balanced groups to run in 2fg. Problem with hibs is that got access to group purge. And that makes it kinda impossible for any fg to have a chance.

<cough>

BoF+SoS combo.

Kinda negates both Tanks and Bards tbh, far more deadly than GP anyday.

And stop whining people. You bitch about lack of Hibs. Then, as people have already said above, you bitch about too many.

Look in the mirror please, we are now doing the same as you Albs have done all along, only we show both groups at the start, rather than letting you think you've won before we hit you with the second group + stealthers.

And as Ardrias so kinldy put with apt sarcasm: DAoC is RvR, not Group vs Group. Prydwen population now means you can't run in Emain and be the only group from your realm there any more. Either work out a complicated time-share schedule or stop whining, please.

 

[exe]

Have 2-3-4FGs of hibs in emain on regular basis communicating with eachother via cg/pms/whatever but NOT zerging by sticking together, would be fine imo.

 

[ilum]

Originally posted by VidX
Look in the mirror please, we are now doing the same as you Albs have done all along, only we show both groups at the start, rather than letting you think you've won before we hit you with the second group + stealthers.

I can't speak for all Albion's but I don't think I've ever experienced Albs organizing "adding" into battles - it happens unintentionally because we have more RvR groups running around than Hibs, normally.

 

[Maleg_Grumpton]

Originally posted by faderullan
Im amazed that so many dislikes me this much. Many that i have no idea who they are

I don't think that many people do dislike you Faderullan.

At most they're just irritated with your crys of 1FG. The thing is everything you say you say from a position of power...... you're group generally is well drilled consisting of high RR characters using characters that are the strongest characters in this patch.

I don't think anybody will deny that your group format with RA's up is pretty much unbeatable by a Hib group and even a high RR Hib group (be it Mage or Tank) struggle with your RA's down.

On top of all that there is maybe one or two very experienced Hib group running about these days - Eclipse when they run and a mixture of TDD / SS and other random high RR peeps.

The rest of us (mere mortal players) generally run in groups with mixed RR and mixed experience (in the vain hope of getting more Hibs into RvR). Simple fact is we cannot compete due to combination of classes, experience and RA's - you know that, we know that, yet anything we do to try and get more people out there, get them more experience and RA's meets crys of Zerg.

 

[old.windforce]

Originally posted by Maleg_Grumpton
I don't think that many people do dislike you Faderullan.

At most they're just irritated with your crys of 1FG. The thing is everything you say you say from a position of power...... you're group generally is well drilled consisting of high RR characters using characters that are the strongest characters in this patch.

I don't think anybody will deny that your group format with RA's up is pretty much unbeatable by a Hib group and even a high RR Hib group (be it Mage or Tank) struggle with your RA's down.

On top of all that there is maybe one or two very experienced Hib group running about these days - Eclipse when they run and a mixture of TDD / SS and other random high RR peeps.

The rest of us (mere mortal players) generally run in groups with mixed RR and mixed experience (in the vain hope of getting more Hibs into RvR). Simple fact is we cannot compete due to combination of classes, experience and RA's - you know that, we know that, yet anything we do to try and get more people out there, get them more experience and RA's meets crys of Zerg.

true

random fgs are rp cattle for the well opted groups in all 3 realms

 

[Ahqmae]

As for the GPing; remezz.

As for savages vs hibs; good luck hibs - you're gonna need it.

I still rejoice at the sight of two savages killing two casters in 5 secs, funnay xD

Hib pb group with instas and RAs up have a decent chance to kill a fotm 3 healer 1 shaman 1 skald 3 savage group.

Thats 4 chars with insta ranged interrupts, and one entire char hellbent on rooting/dot'ing = interrupting 4 teh win.

 

[Zarmin]

In the end

I really would like to see someday Mythic get rid of the problem with a simple choice : don't allow groups with same chars inside Then i can happily go out with a random fg or a guild fg and prolly things would be more balanced.

 

[Piojo]

Originally posted by Maleg_Grumpton
I don't think that many people do dislike you Faderullan.

At most they're just irritated with your crys of 1FG. The thing is everything you say you say from a position of power...... you're group generally is well drilled consisting of high RR characters using characters that are the strongest characters in this patch.

I don't think anybody will deny that your group format with RA's up is pretty much unbeatable by a Hib group and even a high RR Hib group (be it Mage or Tank) struggle with your RA's down.

On top of all that there is maybe one or two very experienced Hib group running about these days - Eclipse when they run and a mixture of TDD / SS and other random high RR peeps.

The rest of us (mere mortal players) generally run in groups with mixed RR and mixed experience (in the vain hope of getting more Hibs into RvR). Simple fact is we cannot compete due to combination of classes, experience and RA's - you know that, we know that, yet anything we do to try and get more people out there, get them more experience and RA's meets crys of Zerg.

I think Maleg said everything that needed to be said, nice post.

 

[scarffs]

Very nicely put.

 

[Edlina]

Re: In the end

Originally posted by Zarmin
I really would like to see someday Mythic get rid of the problem with a simple choice : don't allow groups with same chars inside Then i can happily go out with a random fg or a guild fg and prolly things would be more balanced.

Yes, that'd be fair for midgard because they have both main mezzer and healer on the same character, meaning they'd have to sacrifice healing to get a mezzer, or mezzing to get a good healer, that wouldn't balance anything at all, just make mid totally underpowered and is a ridiculous idea.

Not every post has 2-3 comments with hibs zerging or not being rvr active or enchanters being overpowered not even with 2-3 people blaming derric (which is something we must change imo)

But every post there's a few stealther add comments, and yes it does happen, a lot, I've been on the recieving end uncountable times, I'd say more than not, but really it's a bit annoying that every thread on the forum has a few posts that whines about it

Treat others the way you'd like to be treated yourself.

 

[Zarmin]

Re: Re: In the end

Originally posted by Edlina
Yes, that'd be fair for midgard because they have both main mezzer and healer on the same character, meaning they'd have to sacrifice healing to get a mezzer, or mezzing to get a good healer, that wouldn't balance anything at all, just make mid totally underpowered and is a ridiculous idea.

Not every post has 2-3 comments with hibs zerging or not being rvr active or enchanters being overpowered not even with 2-3 people blaming derric (which is something we must change imo)

But every post there's a few stealther add comments, and yes it does happen, a lot, I've been on the recieving end uncountable times, I'd say more than not, but really it's a bit annoying that every thread on the forum has a few posts that whines about it

Treat others the way you'd like to be treated yourself.

This would be a problem for all realms tbh not for midgard only but go on Ed np ...

 

[Edlina]

Re: Re: Re: In the end

Originally posted by Zarmin
This would be a problem for all realms tbh not for midgard only but go on Ed np ...

Not to the same extend mate, hib has main mezzer on bard main healer on druid pbt/backup healer on warden, they could have each of those chars in a group while midgard would be left with 1 either mezzer or healer and 1 backup healer, Albion would probably be best off really, since they have many vital abilities spread over many classes, and already now have groups consisting of very few of the same classes (a few mercs and clerics only classes that comes in more than 1 in balanced groups)