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mordia
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How unexpectable, hibs actually manage to come to emain and what starts, "yyhyh sniff 2fg zerg sniff pliz go back to exca yhyhy sniff snifnif".
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Ardrias_Mid
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Dark Age of Camelot - Where RvR means group versus group.
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Aran Thule
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I just dont get why people are complaining, you moan that there are no his, you moan there are too many hibs.
Several times ive been on the frounties and seen new groups that i dont recognise anyone from, i assume that theese are mainly the new arrivals, good on them.
Eclipse are an experianced guild and skilled in RvR so you will get beaten by them now and again.
However the standard 'random' group that heads to emain is dead, and quite often in odin/hadrian.
A little while ago i was in a 'balanced' group (Bard , druid, warden +others) for 2-3 hours we repeatedly tried the frontiers.
How many kills did we get.... none
We didnt do anything wrong, we assisted, used every trick we had under the sun but when you bump into MM, PE or any of the other powerful groups you dont stand a chance.
Please tell me what you suggest we do? (without any stupid answers like get skills/dump the ranger ect)
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xianghua
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Finally some1 who got the point..
But dont even try to explain it to hibs they dont listen anyways
They will feel it in a few weeks when they can´t go emain anymore cuz its counterzerged by albs/mids since hibs started to run 2fg´s. Sad that its ppl like you and me that suffer from this most but whatever seems they want it this way
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faderullan
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You got to try again. You cant expect to have a chance vs guild groups, who have played together for a real long time with the same setup, on the first try. But if you play together more you will get results.
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Maleg_Grumpton
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With all respect Zapsi - Eclipse stopped running mages groups (think they may have been out and about this weekend but it's been a long time), from what I understand one of the reasons was they're just too fragile and inconsistant. Don't know what happened to NP - just guess they're having more fun on Excal maybe.
Simple fact is yes Hib Mage Group > Hib Melee Group. Mage group is also a lot harder to play and still doesn't really stand up to good Mid melee groups or high RR good Alb groups. You can't walk in Emain without running into these groups and I don't think I've had a single 1FG fight in Emain in ages where there haven't been adds (prime time). Adds happen all sides and I'm not saying the intentional however when you have lesser numbers like the Hibs do it happens all the more to us.
Sorry but very few Hibs are in RvR atm, if 2FG means it draws more of them out then it can only be a good thing for Hib. I image the really high RR will stick to their own 1FG formations.
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Maleg_Grumpton
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Fadah, you've gotta be kidding me. PE group with RA's up is pretty much indestructable for a Hib group, even the best Hib tank group (don't think Mage group would have much chance either). PE group with RA's down is still pretty hard to take down, maybe 3 in 10 success rate if that.
Don't matter how often these Hibs play, current patch and current level of oposition means they can never box on equal terms with well constructed Mid or Alb groups.
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faderullan
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I have no problem with lower rr people who dont run in balanced groups to run in 2fg. Problem with hibs is that got access to group purge. And that makes it kinda impossible for any fg to have a chance.
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Maleg_Grumpton
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Well mate, AD has many old school players in it, but very few high RR ones (most did still stuff like /delete and realm hopped a while /points Zell). Also we don't have enough players to form 2FG let along 2FG balanced. So most of the time if running 2FG it will be mix of low and high RR with random people.
I'm really not Mid or Alb bashing here, but it's impossible to run 1FG of Hibs (even decent RR ones get beaten up pretty bad). Due to the nature of Emain there are usually lots more Mid and Alb stealthers about and usually more FG's running in both those realms than Hib. Running 2FG is self protection more than anything and a mark of desperation just to try and get some half decent RvR. Most are close to throwing in the towel.
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Shike
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what you mean here is, we cant beat you since you add in 95% of your fights when needed with infs/mincers/other albs kk.
here you just make me laugh, you DONT have the NUMBERS?????? are you friggin kidding me? And you are aware of that hibbs actually stand a very nice chanse in zerging thanks to our mages, and imo it cant be worse than it is now anyway ty very much. Hypocritisism is a word I think would suit that statement.
well at least we might have some fun you know.. and you cant farm anymore, poor you. You must seriosly think people are stupid Fadeh.
we have also beaten you guys, when you dont add which aint often. If adds was less frequent, it would be more fun, atm it just dont work out so we solve it our way.
since when was running 2fgs "cheating"? Thats a silly thing to say mate. Say that to the adds you always bring with u, or when you add into FGfights, or to avalance or GoP/AoV etc.
pardon me, but this aint your server, we are hibbs and we wanna have some fun in RVR for once. We do what we wanna do kk, for you to preach like you do is just blatantly silly, you have absolutely no right to tell anyone what they can do or cant, didnt see u win some election as El Presidente of Prydwen.
aaaand.....
copying and pasting now from another thread I posted on a less visited area of daocsection on BW's;
<hib:why whine, we run 1fg..
<random mid/alb: ye ye zerg more, saw u was 2fg!
<hib: we was? oh, must have added in then, sorry, dont run to emain if you dont like adds then dude, cant do much about it, shit happens eh?
<random mid/alb: thats lame, we always run 1fg.. cant help that stealthers and other other mids/albs join in now and then, do you really have to make pryd into a zergersever like xcal? You ruin the skillz in the game totally and you suck fyi (read that as, we cant farm you stopid hibs that insist on runnin 1fg anymore so easy, we are allowed to have constant adds and you are not)
<hib: well tough shit, cry more.. etc, osv.
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<hib: why whine, we arent zerging
<random mid/alb: yes u are!!!!!one one one!!! , 2fgs is zerg and zerg is baaaadd and ruin teh zone...
<hib: afaik emain is hibbieland.. we roleplay you know
<random mid/alb: wtf u on dood.. stop zerging.. you lack skillz, I will pawn you all miahahahha
<hib: well, yes we roleplay, we roleplay that we are defending our frontier.. its not zerging. We can do this since you do it in hadrians/odins. Even mighty respected BO (that never <cough> adds) or PE (that never ever cry for help <cough> either) does that on occasion and they seem to enjoy running 2fgs now and then when they need it so why cant we? We havent had a decent fight 1fg vs 1fg in Emain for months, so now we roleplay kk, roleplayin is fun.
<random mid/alb: you suck, you lack skillz, I will pawn you with my zerg cuz my zerg is bigger than yours.. kk.. lame to blame it on roleplayin..fuckin looser.
<hib: see you out there then.. and roleplayin is fun fyi btw.. kk
to albs that adds, to mids that adds... and call it 1fgRVR.. and expect us to live with it.. :moon: you should be happy we come out and play at least.
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faderullan
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Sorry Shike, but you clearly dont understand what i meant. Or you understood it but wanted to make a flamepost anyway.
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Shike
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no I just think that you talked a lot of crap, thats all
and this is BWs, flaming is a part of it I reckon ^^ Dont take it too seriosly.
and this is BWs, flaming is a part of it I reckon ^^ Dont take it too seriosly.
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Shike
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and the joke has spoken again I see... nice to see you on a forum where you belong instead of spewing out rubbish on prydwen.net where you just get laughed at. Why dont you join alb instead and cry in the choir?
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all i can say is running 2 FG setups will result in the RvR guilds running 2FG setups and then no one on this server will havea chance so ur gonna have no fun and that apllies not to hibs but all realms.
If you think 1 FG of PE/everlast is bad think how hard 2 FG will be to take down.
Soon as one realm starts all will.
If you think 1 FG of PE/everlast is bad think how hard 2 FG will be to take down.
Soon as one realm starts all will.
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xianghua
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tihi tho must be the really funniest noob i´ve ever met but as i told you freaks on prydwen.net do whatever you want if you like run 10fg´s zerg to emain but dont wajn when you have to take the consequences idiot
Albs/Mids WILL counterzerg thats 100% sure and they got TWICE the numbers than hibs but i know its hard to think in advance for u
I played xcal very long time and i know what happens when 1 realm starts to run 2fg´s+ but as it seems you prydwen inhabitants have to figure that out by yourself first
anyways have "fun" with your zerg aslong you can enjoy it it wont last long
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Xianghua Thunderer|Fun!
Nookah Brehon|PvE 4tehwin
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Hatchetdwarf Isen Herra|bored of zerg
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Shike
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awww, such anger, momma not home yet so you dont have a chest to cry on so you need to go here?
HI DER.. I AM 16 AND NEED ATTENTION!! HELP ME!... jesus... some people.
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xianghua
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hahaha you stupid or something tell me where the fuck do you see wajn in my post i´m just telling you the facts and WTF i dont even care there are still 2 other frontiers when you guys are in emain with your mighty zerg
i´ll stop this now cuz its pointless to discuss such things with prydwen|hibs anyways and i cba to waste my time with it so have fun in the game =D
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Nookah Brehon|PvE 4tehwin
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Hatchetdwarf Isen Herra|bored of zerg
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taobitzz
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Run 1fg or 10fg its your money your time, do what it takes to have fun, if fun = winning and winning = 2fg do what it takes. Mids run tank groups albs run tank groups as that what it takes to win now. You dont see people running gimp groups regularly for obvious reasons, if you find there is no other way to win than with having more numbers, well why the hell not, sure you will be whined at etc, but who cares tbh, getting owned all day long cant be fun if thats whats happening. Sure prydwens elite may not like it but so what.
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Shike
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Originally posted by xianghua
hahaha you stupid or something tell me where the fuck do you see wajn in my post i´m just telling you the facts and WTF i dont even care there are still 2 other frontiers when you guys are in emain with your mighty zerg
i´ll stop this now cuz its pointless to discuss such things with prydwen|hibs anyways and i cba to waste my time with it so have fun in the game =D
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Nookah Brehon|PvE 4tehwin
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Hatchetdwarf Isen Herra|bored of zerg
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you call it discussing, I call it listening to an idiot trying to spew out as much crap as possible on least lines possible. Sure your momma aint home btw?
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xianghua
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Originally posted by Shike
you call it discussing, I call it listening to an idiot trying to spew out as much crap as possible on least lines possible. Sure your momma aint home btw?
we talk again in 1-2 months maybe less when 2fg´s+ running is standard in emain
and btw the niveau of your try´s to flame me is quiet low
improve or shut up =)~Prydwen~
Xianghua Thunderer|Fun!
Nookah Brehon|PvE 4tehwin
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Hatchetdwarf Isen Herra|bored of zerg
Seltir Flammen Vakten|bored of zerg
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old.Nedowiz
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You swapped server Xianghua.....live with it or go back to excal...
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Cush
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Thing here is that "the elite" can adept and keep on going and beeing even more impossible to beat for the random players.
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Shike
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Originally posted by xianghua
we talk again in 1-2 months maybe less when 2fg´s+ running is standard in emain
and btw the niveau of your try´s to flame me is quiet low
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Xianghua Thunderer|Fun!
Nookah Brehon|PvE 4tehwin
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Hatchetdwarf Isen Herra|bored of zerg
Seltir Flammen Vakten|bored of zerg
hmm..
correct me if I am wrong but didnt you write this in the previous post you made:
and yet you post again to say something silly, isnt it maybe so that you just cant stop crying and really really need your momma.. like.. now!? :sleeping:
and btw, if you really think I should improve my so called flaming, why dont you just ignore it and leave it be eh? oh wait.. sorry, forgot, no can do until momma is home right?
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Shike
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like when 1fg BO beat the crap out of 3FG randoms?
seriosly, vs the organized FGs neither albs/mids or hibs stand a chanse as it is already when doing random groups. That part wont change nomatter how you twist and turn things around.
Tbh I dont really see the problem here, we are only preparing to go out 2fgs and tried it out once and had a blast. We will hardly run 2fgs in odins/HW unless its zergy there so only Emain will be affected, whats the real problem mate? Emain is already heavily crowded and it will most likely not change one bit.
Hibb need a wakeupcall and this can also be it, atm most are uptight in runnin FGs and get owned mostly due to adds and are afraid of runnin more than FG since they know they will be flamed to hell and back. We have discussed this alot in our guild and we came to the conclusion that we wont give a damn if we can get together 2fg on a regular basis. If it means that PE now have to run 2fgs with 1fg stealthers dont really bother me tbh and I think I can speak for anyone in AD. BO already always add so that wont change, will just be more even fights for us for a change if we do as we plan to do. What is it really that you guys are afraid of? We will still be out in Odins and HW aswell and FGfights can probably be found there, unless mids or the roleplaying albs zerg. Move out of Emain if you prefer FGfights, less stealthers which is a good thing aswell. Trust me Cush, we wouldnt even consider this as an option unless we thought we have a solid reason for it. We arent stupid and want to RVR as much as you guys do. We just adapt to an unbearable situation, let us try it out at least.
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Frankly Fadeh you seem to be saying that everyone should run 1fg and no more. Well that might be fine for those guilds who run set 1fg of Fotm RR7-10 people but leaves other guilds having no chance against them. It's not fun to be owned 10 times in a row vs a fotm group therefore every group/guild has to adapt to the fotm guild groups in their own way. If that involves running 2fg then that's what will happen.
As has been pointed out in several other threads the whole evolution of the fotm uber 1fg is sounding a death knell for RvR.
As has been pointed out in several other threads the whole evolution of the fotm uber 1fg is sounding a death knell for RvR.
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taobitzz
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Well the random players can adapt to, I don't believe making this a rr7/8+ 1fg v 1fg server is what the majority of people want (I could be wrong). People are entitled to play this game anyway they want, having people tell them the numbers they are allowed etc is silly. Sure I have had lots of fun lately in our fg setup v other fg setups, and dying to bigger numbers is frustrating,, but telling people they will ruin the server if they run more than 1fg is insane. They pay as much, have probabley played as much and entitled to play any god damn way they want. If they are consistently dying you think its better they keep running to thier deaths lemming style to high rr perfect setup groups? or do whatever they feel is necessary to win. People do whatever it takes to win after all. Be it rr10's or rr1's noone wants to die.
As for the "the elite" adapting I thought they added on each other freely already
Got screenies of guild groups adding on our fights, not that I care id do exact same in reverse its realm v realm after all not group v Group./forbitz
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Cush
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Taobitz what i meaning that it will take quite much for randoms to be able to beat the "Elite" groups if they start to run 2 fg.
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taobitzz
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I agree there, but
(a) they might win some fights
(b) it might actually let some classes which dont fit into the perfect group setup a chance to rvr
(c) its better than dying everytime for them as it is
(a) they might win some fights
(b) it might actually let some classes which dont fit into the perfect group setup a chance to rvr
(c) its better than dying everytime for them as it is
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This doesn’t mean all hibs will be running 2fg, which it seems most of those mids and albs who have posted here thinks.
But for mids and albs high RL grps to say that they will have to run as 2fg now because of this is BS IMO.
First of all you got plenty doing that already.
Secondly my grp run as 1fg, and more often than not we run into 1fg+, 2fg and 3fg mids and albs(yes even guild grps).
Does this means that my grp should start running with another fg???
If you feel that you have to turn it into xcal because some hibs starts to run more than 1fg, be my guest. TBH I don’t think it will change much for us…In Emain that is.
And Xianghua please could you crawl back in whatever hole you came from?
But for mids and albs high RL grps to say that they will have to run as 2fg now because of this is BS IMO.
First of all you got plenty doing that already.
Secondly my grp run as 1fg, and more often than not we run into 1fg+, 2fg and 3fg mids and albs(yes even guild grps).
Does this means that my grp should start running with another fg???
If you feel that you have to turn it into xcal because some hibs starts to run more than 1fg, be my guest. TBH I don’t think it will change much for us…In Emain that is.
And Xianghua please could you crawl back in whatever hole you came from?
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this has been some good barryswhine™