Hello hibs

[constanze]

thx for showing up in emain it was a bit boring without you

 

[SoulFly Amarok]

agreed

 

[leviathane]

at long last imo.

 

[rg-zorena]

I was suicding if you where thinking of that 1 bard.

 

[-redb-]

Was 52 hibs in emain for a while \o/
Nothin to kill tho, so we went back to 4fins now :>

:spin:

 

[old.Gombur Glodson]

Originally posted by -redb-
Was 52 hibs in emain for a while \o/
Nothin to kill tho, so we went back to 4fins now :>

:spin:

 

[zapzap]

Hib zerg > all :/


Zapsi

 

[old.Fenixen]

Like Double TS Cons?

 

[Petronella]

Originally posted by SoulFly Amarok
agreed

Heeeeeeeeey you said that PvE was for the win.. or something.. I missed SoulFly's comeback?

 

[constanze]

Originally posted by old.Fenixen
Like Double TS Cons?

aye was looking like a broke car after 4 rangers shooted me

but also funny 10 min later i waved to 3 of them and they got a bit scared without ts behind that tree sw of amg

 

[VidX]

Originally posted by constanze
aye was looking like a broke car after 4 rangers shooted me

but also funny 10 min later i waved to 3 of them and they got a bit scared without ts behind that tree sw of amg

Always fun running across you and your group with the HDS stealth group

Marius says ouch btw for the 682 Backstab lol

 

[Shike]

Originally posted by constanze
thx for showing up in emain it was a bit boring without you

it was the yearly roundtour to see if they had changed anything in emain since last patch, didnt see any mids or albs either nearly so it was as fun as last year..

see u in a year.

 

[shanks]

Wee hibs! /huggels

 

[Shike]

Originally posted by zapzap
Hib zerg > all :/


Zapsi

pbae is nice innit? think absolute best setup for hibbs is to actually run 2fg's, that way we can use our magix better at least since our melee is a tad weak, will give it a shot and see how things work out :>

 

[Cush]

Originally posted by Shike
pbae is nice innit? think absolute best setup for hibbs is to actually run 2fg's, that way we can use our magix better at least since our melee is a tad weak, will give it a shot and see how things work out :>

Well if you run 2fg guess we have to run 2fg melee then aswell.. Bit hard beating 2fg doing pbaoe box (with ppl that know what they do) with only 1fg. Tho i was realy hoping that prydwen wouldent become another a second excal with zerg4tehwin motto.

 

[Puppetmistress]

Originally posted by Cush
Well if you run 2fg guess we have to run 2fg melee then aswell.. Bit hard beating 2fg doing pbaoe box (with ppl that know what they do) with only 1fg. Tho i was realy hoping that prydwen wouldent become another a second excal with zerg4tehwin motto.

Its pretty hard to beat a FOTM Savage-group fg versus fg. Depends on alot of luck, RA's and even then its hard (also for a PBAoE-group). If you're unlucky 2 mages die immediatly after a savage.

This tends to get boring for us (Hibbies) and running with 2fg's gives us a much better chance and it allows us to actually stay longer in Emain Macha then the run to it.

Don't tell me not to run in 2fg, its same as telling you not to run with savages.

And 2fg coordinated PBAoE > 2fg coordinated tankgroups. You're right about that.

Telling Hibbies that they zerg4tehwin is rich, I suggest you go take a look at the amount of Hibbies in the 3 frontiers and the amount of Mids in them.

 

[Cush]

Originally posted by Puppetmistress
Don't tell me not to run in 2fg, its same as telling you not to run with savages.

Please say where i said you couldent run 2fg. And please say you can compare running with savages in the group with running 2fg.

What do you think the reaction from the people that do casual rvr when it was hard enough for them when people that set up opted groups were only running 1fg. Either they go away or they bring a even bigger zerg.

Originally posted by Puppetmistress
And 2fg coordinated PBAoE > 2fg coordinated tankgroups. You're right about that.

And I think we can kill you if we had 2fg and not just 1 as we did yesterday. Sure was some random adds but all they do i run into the pbaoe and die so thats pretty much free rps for you.

 

[Cush]

Originally posted by constanze
aye was looking like a broke car after 4 rangers shooted me

but also funny 10 min later i waved to 3 of them and they got a bit scared without ts behind that tree sw of amg

Well when beeing a archers and seeing that you waves to one. Its not strange you start to get a little worried since 9/10 times you got 7 other ppl with you.

 

[Maleg_Grumpton]

Originally posted by Cush
Please say where i said you couldent run 2fg. And please say you can compare running with savages in the group with running 2fg.

What do you think the reaction from the people that do casual rvr when it was hard enough for them when people that set up opted groups were only running 1fg. Either they go away or they bring a even bigger zerg.

Thing is Cush it's pretty much impossible for 1FG of Hibs to win with any consistancy vs 1FG of Mids or Albs. On top of Mid and Alb being superiour at the moment there are also a lot more of them, very hard to get a clean fight without adds and Emain is too small to avoid adds occuring.

As it stands 2FG's of Hibs is probably the last straw - most have given up RvR and this is last effort to get people on Hib / Pryd kick started and back in the frontier. For us it isn't 2FG of die hard players - lots of casual ones involved in there also.

Originally posted by Cush
And I think we can kill you if we had 2fg and not just 1 as we did yesterday. Sure was some random adds but all they do i run into the pbaoe and die so thats pretty much free rps for you.

You're right, 1FG of good Mids or Albs will have a very hard time taking down 2FG of semi-decent Hibs and yes we expect to be attacked by 2FG+ from time to time (nobody likes losing all the time). However 2FG of Hibs is on par with 2FG of Mid or Albs where as 1FG of Mids / Albs is > 1FG of Hibs. Think it's to due with the fact that in 2FG Hibs can being mages into play more effectively that allows them to compete. Also there's a bit less pressure on the Bards as there's two of them

 

[Cush]

And by starting to run 2fg what do you think will happen?

Yes everyone else will be forced to run 2fg then, and if you start dying the will you start running with 3fg then or?

See what i mean?

How many randoms do you think it will take to kill your 2fg coordinated groups? Your should be able to kill 4fg rather easy, so that leaves the random ppl only to run with 4fg+ if you are out.

All i have to say to that is hello Excalibur.

 

[old.Jeriraa]

Our guild group got soooo badly raped by Hibs y'day...

1st by a pbae group in Hadrians and then by some melee group in Odin's. These guys were actually good.

Nerf getting slammed by a spearo and then hit with positionals for 400. My healer has >1900 hps when buffed but went down before the slam was gone.

Nerf Hib pets too! They have too many. When you face a Hib pbae group you face 11 enemies and not 8. Thats 1 pet for every healer and when the bards are smart (like in that group y'day) these groups are damn hard to take down.

//Disclaimer: Klan Nidstang is not running fotm Savage groups. We are running twyg Gimp groups. (Read "take what you get" Guild Groups.) Therefore your expierience with them might varry.

 

[amazingsteve]

Originally posted by old.Jeriraa
Nerf Hib pets too! They have too many. When you face a Hib pbae group you face 11 enemies and not 8

Just like Faders 8+3 group or the Mid group with 3 healers in them

 

[Cush]

Originally posted by amazingsteve
Just like Faders 8+3 group or the Mid group with 3 healers in them

hmm.. lets see hib melee team with 2 druid 2 bards 1 hero 3 bm.. oww 4 healing classes.

 

[Shike]

Originally posted by Cush
And by starting to run 2fg what do you think will happen?

Yes everyone else will be forced to run 2fg then, and if you start dying the will you start running with 3fg then or?

See what i mean?

How many randoms do you think it will take to kill your 2fg coordinated groups? Your should be able to kill 4fg rather easy, so that leaves the random ppl only to run with 4fg+ if you are out.

All i have to say to that is hello Excalibur.

mate, seriosly, what do you expect us to do?

we cannot compete with 1fg as it is now, thats a fact. We simply never get even fights to begin with, both albs and mids add an afwul lot, if you guys expect us to tolerate getting into a nice decent fight somewhere and then get added and farmed upon, think again. This is _not_ our "fault", maybe its a natural development, I dunno.

I have loads of oldshoolers in my guild, tuo, luona, tanta, maha, maleg etc.. we are all tired as hell of gettin farmed, why is that so bloody hard to understand? Very very few of the RVRguilds respect and try to follow the 1fg concept these days mate, its not so much the fact that if we compose a FG hibs and meet FG mids with savages that hand our asses to us in a package with nice colourful paper around it, its the _CONSTANT_ adds that kills our motivation. Only guilds I respect today is actually EL and BaF (where are u fellas?)(sorry if I miss some guild that do try still, I just list 2 guilds I know do it for sure), they seldom add and they travel around and avoid zerging which is what AD has done so far to 100%, we have strived to run 1fg at all times and very very seldom added in fights if it can be avoided. Do you expect us to run for 10mins to Emain and then fight against the odds at all times? How would you feel mate? Fun? Hardly..

As Maleg said, most have given up, you want us to head to the graves or stand and fight and try something that might work for us? Why is it always hibbs that have to follow certain "rules" that nobody else clearly doesnt respect anyway? If it affects the random people (which it ofc will, I know what 2FG hibbs can do) then so be it. Blame mids and albs cfh all the damn time and your massive amount of stealthers that roam Emain that cowardly attack our healers when we run 1fg and face another FG etc.

AD made a trialrun with 2FGs, was far from opted groups and still we had a load of fun tbh, and this is what the game is all about after all, fun. Right?

/salute

ps: for FGfights we will probably roam odins/hadrians though Far less adds and zerging going on there at least.

 

[old.Jeriraa]

Originally posted by amazingsteve
Just like Faders 8+3 group or the Mid group with 3 healers in them

What?!? Healers get pets??? FFS Noone told me - I probably gimped mine.

Honestly, Midgard has only 2 pet classes and when it comes to disabling healers Hibernia is far ahead of Midgard. Any well played chanter can disable 1 healer without touching him. So can a druid. Hibs moaning about 3 healer groups is funny.

People say this game is just about numbers and not about skills. I have to disagree. Our y'day group has beaten 1fg Hibs + 1fg Albs who jumped into the fight when half the hibs were dead and got a nice mezz on us. These people had no clue about what they were doing... example:
A hearo see's me healing and goes for me. I pull my hammer and start whacking him. He runs away. I fire another 2 spreadheals and he goes for me again. Again I pull my hammer and he runs away. I happily heal away.

Then we got repeatedly killed by a fg Hibs. We tried different tactics on every approach but were killed easily simply to the fact that they had 3 pets and were covering their 2 bards with pbae. Our 3 healers didnt help us the slightest.

 

[slaraigh]

Aww..here was I making a BarrysWorld user just to reply and thank you on behalf of my random group in the frontiers this weekend, but my group didn't have two bard..hehe. But we did quite well for a fg randoms, and it's nice to see other random groups out there, not just RR9 fixed groups having fun... makes it fun for everyone =o)

 

[old.Jeriraa]

Originally posted by slaraigh
Aww..here was I making a BarrysWorld user just to reply and thank you on behalf of my random group in the frontiers this weekend, but my group didn't have two bard..hehe. But we did quite well for a fg randoms, and it's nice to see other random groups out there, not just RR9 fixed groups having fun... makes it fun for everyone =o)

Dont tell me you were with those Hibs in Hadrians! Give pics to proove. I don't believe you.

And if you were that group that beat us 3 or 4 times, are you sure you had only one bard? Makes it even more embarrassing.

 

[Cush]

I simply said what is most likley to happen if a new standard is set to run as 2fg. If people start to run with 2fg guild groups together it will most likley end up with a zerg heaven.

If someone brings a "Zerg" you can be pretty sure that someone else will bring a bigger within a little while if you use the "they beat us with same numbers lets avenge with more" meantaly.

And honestly do you belive that only hibs that suffer from stealther adds? If a fight is to happen close to a mg you can pretty sure count on 5-6 stealthers adding either using assist with the group figthing or killing away the healers.

Maybe we are back at camping mg's again soon? (except AoD and friends which is doing it already)

Im realy not saying its right or wrong what you are doing. All i realy mean its a turn to the worse imo what is happening in the game atm.

 

[zapzap]

Originally posted by Shike
pbae is nice innit? think absolute best setup for hibbs is to actually run 2fg's, that way we can use our magix better at least since our melee is a tad weak, will give it a shot and see how things work out :>

Allways said its the best hibs could do.
We normal run with 1 savage and there is no way we can beat 2fg hibs playing the pbaeBOX just a bit decent.
I understand hibs loosing aint fun and only way mids can beat 2fg good hibs is bringing 2fg good mids (like cushy is saying )
When u run into rr9 chanters druids standind 2fg then ofc u gonna need to come 2fg or 3. Now where would this leave the rr1-6 people ? runing 5fg ? very hard to cordinate 5fg so they be camping milegates.

What setup we need to beat 2fg hibs pbaebox hmmmm second group with 4 thanes maybe

To bad hibs began doing the mele groups is just not good enough IMO and Eclipse NP could beat any group and probelly win 90 % with pbae group, now hibs need 2fg to do this ?

All u need is 2 diff good rvr groups in same area then there would be space for the random hib groups.

Zapsi

 

[faderullan]

Taregion: Please, cut the crap.

And to the hibs that run 2fg. So if you cant beat us in 1fg vs 1fg, you have to run 2fg? Which we cant beat with 1fg. Then what has improved? Its still these fights who isnt fun when we know who is gonna win.

If you start zerg, mids and albs will do the same. Or at least mids as albs usually dont have the numbers out to do it. And as hibs got lesser numbers then both albs and mids, hibs will stand there losing in the end. And what has been achieved by then? Excal nr 2?

People like me are the big losers in the end. As i dont go in 2fg. Countless times have people asked me to move 2fg as the enemies zerg but i have always said no. I simply dont see the fun. And i know if i zerg, enemies will do it back and we are into a "evil" circle.

And it is possible to kill my group with a fg hibs. Eclipse did it last night once. Learn from them.

There is no easy way to get a good group running. You got to work for it. And if you think run 2fg is the solution then you kinda "cheat". Its little like in boxing. If you add 40 kg muscles you cant play in your old weightclass.

I heard alb/excal moved hib/pryd. Go back to excal before you destroy our server please.