Gratz Albs

[Tareregion]

shhh my head is getting very hot atm :<

/me holds Araudrys head under water.

 

[Araudry]

/me holds Araudrys head under water.

evul elph on this forums

 

[Cami]

/me holds Araudrys head under water.

/em helps!


Muahahaha!

Go to sleep you bitter inf Araud

 

[Xeanor]

Nah; but Albs who defend a relic-raid at 5:00 AM; executed by 16 or 160, are simply not doing something I see as honourable.

You can say getting to Snowdonia with 150 Hibs at prime-time and snatching the relic takes no skill either; and you're right abuot that.

But ATLEAST the Hibs took it prime-time; and no matter how slim the chance is to defend it; its there.

Albs didnt bother actively defending their relic, nobody moved with their group(s) to Hadrians Wall.

I've said it before: your defense is in HW, if there's RvR there you will be spotted when you raid Myrrdin. Albs took 0 effort to put RvR into HW. And as Hib I dont bother with giving Albion a first line of defense ofcourse

What the hell are you talking about? And I don't defend the 12 albs who tried to take a relic at 5:00am. Actually, I don't give a shit about the power relic as it's impossible to keep as albs. The rest of your post is totally irrelevant to anything I said and I really don't care.

Quit talking about "Albs", start talking about "the 12 albs that tried to take a relic"

 

[Tareregion]

evul elph on this forums

uff why do u keep struggling

 

[Balbor]

Albion cannot take a relic off Hibs at prime time for the simply fact that Hibs have a defence/siege option that is not avalible to Alb, shroom. No skill or tactics involved.

The fact that while the most underpopulated realm is able to take a relic during prime time without taking all the keeps vs the most populated realm having to resort to morning raids with all enemy keeps captured and relying on there being no defenders just shows how over powered hibs currently are and how unbalanced the game is.

 

[Ormorof]

No skill or tactics involved

mids have taken relics from hibs at primetime, and mids havent got any petspammers

 

[koxine]

Albion cannot take a relic off Hibs at prime time for the simply fact that Hibs have a defence/siege option that is not avalible to Alb, shroom. No skill or tactics involved.

The fact that while the most underpopulated realm is able to take a relic during prime time without taking all the keeps vs the most populated realm having to resort to morning raids with all enemy keeps captured and relying on there being no defenders just shows how over powered hibs currently are and how unbalanced the game is.

lol

 

[Derric]

Hmm, don't really think you can say that albs are dumbasses for not going to HW, most people wants to go where the real action is, and that sure ain't in HW.
Over the years it's always been Emain people go to, and some in Odin's...sure, some people have gone HW as well, but there's never really been any constant action around there, it's just the odd group coming around every now and then, so people can't really be arsed going there.
It's a game, and don't think many feel like caring so much about it by going to an almost empty frontier to defend relics.
Dunno, just my thought. ;o

 

[Maleg]

Albion cannot take a relic off Hibs at prime time for the simply fact that Hibs have a defence/siege option that is not avalible to Alb, shroom. No skill or tactics involved.

The fact that while the most underpopulated realm is able to take a relic during prime time without taking all the keeps vs the most populated realm having to resort to morning raids with all enemy keeps captured and relying on there being no defenders just shows how over powered hibs currently are and how unbalanced the game is.

LOL @ you. Last time I looked Midgard has same population as Albion (maybe slightly less) but have demonstrated that prime-time raids vs Hibernia is possible (as I said earlier, even managed it before the Animist nerf AFAIK).

What does Midgard have that Albion lacks? Organisation, motivation and determinaton are about the only things I can think of.

 

[Akai_Kage]

Only two points:

You still catch the relic carrier in his way to Dagda. Remember that power relic shrines is far away from the usually RvR grp meeting in hib (Druim Ligen) so you still have a chance.

Second one is: you whine because you said u couln't retrieve the relic from the attackers but... you tried? You said that u can't get a chance vs. animist zergs but still you haven't even tried. Form a zerg like hibs did, go straight to Dagda, without taking first any keep, and if u cant take it (with or without animists) then talk about overpowered classes or something. Oh... I misspelled, I wanted to write 'organisated realms' instead of 'overpowered classes'.

And no, is not hib overpower beacuse you cant do that in mid either. Learn a bit from Albs on Excalibur, they must whine but at least they talk knowing of what they talking about instead of a continuous whine or crying.

 

[Gahn]

Well

LOL @ you. Last time I looked Midgard has same population as Albion (maybe slightly less) but have demonstrated that prime-time raids vs Hibernia is possible (as I said earlier, even managed it before the Animist nerf AFAIK).

What does Midgard have that Albion lacks? Organisation, motivation and determinaton are about the only things I can think of.

Surely Midgard got some good leaders who know what to do on an RR (and how to avoid shroomage ), i'm sure Albion have em too but either they aren't followed or they plain and simply not fussed

 

[civy]

150 alb v 75 defenders and relic keep guards

or

24 albs v 12 defenders and relic keep guards

Same difference.
QQ more

 

[Tareregion]

Albion cannot take a relic off Hibs at prime time for the simply fact that Hibs have a defence/siege option that is not avalible to Alb, shroom. No skill or tactics involved.

The fact that while the most underpopulated realm is able to take a relic during prime time without taking all the keeps vs the most populated realm having to resort to morning raids with all enemy keeps captured and relying on there being no defenders just shows how over powered hibs currently are and how unbalanced the game is.

Dude it has fuck all to do with shrooms. The reason why the hibs can take a relic primetime is cos they get to the RK unspotted with faultfinders. And before you say something retarded, Albs have FFs too. so http://www.crymeariver.com

 

[Boggy]

As an animist, I'd like to think shrooms DO currently make a difference, particularly on defense. It doesn't require much skill, but I am willing to bet, without sarcasm, that Balbor doesn't know how it's done.

It's not the reason our relic raid was successful though. Mids and Hibs use large numbers of rams + FF to get doors down very quickly. Shrooms don't attack doors, though Balbor probably doesn't realise this either.

There is only one realm that has a pet spamming class able to take down doors quickly. It's Alb.

 

[Justicator]

There is only one realm that has a pet spamming class able to take down doors quickly. It's Alb.

True true.. But then again who needs pet spam when you can just have savages with faultfinder. :touch:

 

[Tuppe]

hmm shrooms are mainly helping, and insane ammount, against guards.
when mids need do all dirty work by melee/pbaeo box.

i have seen alott RR where guards kill whole raid easily when something go badly wrong, peeps need be 100% active and watch over guards.
we kill guards or defenders/attackers using our own spell lines or melee lines, not using some mobs or pets, rising attackers numbers by this method.

find it very funny we dont have any change "charm" higher con pets what lvl 42, or any petspam class, making several encounter "soloable" a´la minstrel + bott + salamander or 1-2 animist + bott for fop.

 

[Tareregion]

You are aware that 150 hibs don't need shrooms and they are only an extra lagfactor and often not used during RR attacks?

 

[Groborthir]

Nah; but Albs who defend a relic-raid at 5:00 AM; executed by 16 or 160, are simply not doing something I see as honourable.

Because with all the exploration, zerging, whining, bickering and so on we all know that DAoC definitely is about HONOUR!

Albs didnt bother actively defending their relic, nobody moved with their group(s) to Hadrians Wall.

Who the hell would want to go to an unused zone to RvR when there's absolutely no enemies around? Are you saying that you usually camp Mt. Collory with your ranger? It's a zone that isn't being used for RvR, and you expect groups after groups of albs to spend hours there "just to check if hibs are relic raiding"? No, they are not. And that's not out of lack of motivation to defend the relics, it's solely because this game is about having fun and actually doing something, rather than camping HMG for 9 hours to "keep an eye out". I know I'd rather go to a zone with some activity.

 

[Xeanor]

As if hibs go emain for relic defense.... no they just go there for RvR!

 

[Boggy]

hmm shrooms are mainly helping, and insane ammount, against guards.
when mids need do all dirty work by melee/pbaeo box.

i have seen alott RR where guards kill whole raid easily when something go badly wrong, peeps need be 100% active and watch over guards.
we kill guards or defenders/attackers using our own spell lines or melee lines, not using some mobs or pets, rising attackers numbers by this method.

Getting the doors down quick is the key to an RR. The quicker you do so the less guards you have to fight and the less defenders can get to key points to nobble your relic carrier.

When people set up an RR they don't ask "bring your animsits", they ask "bring your rams/FF". In Alb, they also have the option of asking "bring your theurgs".

You do need enough people to handle the guards, but 180 hibs is enough without shrooms.

find it very funny we dont have any change "charm" higher con pets what lvl 42, or any petspam class, making several encounter "soloable" a´la minstrel + bott + salamander or 1-2 animist + bott for fop.

Several encounters are doable with smaller numbers on Hib and Alb due to this. Doing a handful of encounters with smaller forces is not exactly a big deal. In particular, I don't think it helps any serious RvR players of those classes.

You should try playing a class where when say "Anyone got a space for RvR?" you get 3 sends saying "Can you come help at cloudsong?" etc.

 

[Belomar]

Go to HW with your infil/pala and be the first line of defense then ?

You're an Alb on Excalibur, Puppet; stop pretending the Alb power relic keep is easily defended, you're just making yourself look silly.

 

[Morchaoron]

Nah; but Albs who defend a relic-raid at 5:00 AM; executed by 16 or 160, are simply not doing something I see as honourable.

games have no honour, only sportsmanship...

and everything they did was within the rules...

tho i wouldnt mind if they made keepdoors and keeplords invulnerable for lets say, 10 pm till 10 am...

people will at least have some idea of when the action will take place, and there will be more fights to take stuff...

 

[Ischtap]

...There is only one realm that has a pet spamming class able to take down doors quickly. It's Alb.

You forgot to add that Balbor probably does not know this either.

/em hopes this is good enough for a flame

 

[Balbor]

mids have taken relics from hibs at primetime, and mids havent got any petspammers

no but they do have a large number of instent spells avalible which is needed to supress people on battlements.

 

[Edlina]

no but they do have a large number of instent spells avalible which is needed to supress people on battlements.

So cluless ^^

Mids got them out before any hibs got to the RK.

 

[haarewin]

balbor, do you ever reply without whining about insta mezzes / stuns? you are a smiter right? is all your whining in hope that you get a ranged insta rather than pbae?

 

[Drakulv]

RR aint about challenge,RR about the relics fyi >.<

Indeed, so why moan about alarmclockraids?

 

[Wilburn]

no but they do have a large number of instent spells avalible which is needed to supress people on battlements.

Oh.. so clueless about instant spells imo

 

[Eroa]

no but they do have a large number of instent spells avalible which is needed to supress people on battlements.

haha,

what an idiot xD