Gratz Albs

[Cami]

Hej Eroa :>

 

[Puppet]

You're an Alb on Excalibur, Puppet; stop pretending the Alb power relic keep is easily defended, you're just making yourself look silly.

I dont say its easy Belo. Im perfectly aware its harder to defend Myrrdin then Dagda.

But! If RvR was always in Hadrians Wall, and never in Emain Macha, you would say the EXACT same thing the other way around.

Nowadays there's no geometrical reason why Myrrdin is not defendable. You can port, from housing, to Snowdonia in seconds.

The thing is: Nobody RvR's in Hadrians Wall; so you got no First Line of Defense. It has nothing to do with Snowdonia, Mount Collory or whatever.

Hibs do not go Mount Collory every day either, they only go there for taking Scat back (Hurbury for albion) or relic-defense.


Its all about where the RvR-action is typically. Thats Emain, always been like that. Thats a blessing, but also a burden when it comes down to holding keeps for example.


If RvR was always in Hadrians Wall, Albion would have 0 problems defending Myrrdin. The location of Halls of Corrupt is even better in Albion then Marfach is for when it comes down to detecting intruders choosing that way (!)

 

[Ormorof]

no but they do have a large number of instent spells avalible which is needed to supress people on battlements.

LOL

albs have a stealther that can get INSIDE the relic keep with its insta's yet you dont see us crying here every 5 minutes do you?

albs are quite capable of taking relics (as was shown in weekend) its just unlucky that they are acting like Cleopatra (they are in De-nile harharhar)

 

[Cami]

LOL

albs have a stealther that can get INSIDE the relic keep with its insta's yet you dont see us crying here every 5 minutes do you?

Yea some do!

But then again, albs cry over savages and god knows what else aswell, so

 

[Lejemorder]

btw dont tell baldor shrooms got 1000 range and can be mezz or 2 shooted by fire wizards ^^

 

[Kami]

shrooms aren't a problem if you have AOE DOTs. need more cabalists

 

[Oro]

shrooms aren't a problem if you have AOE DOTs. need more cabalists

Animist + FoP > any DoT

Maybe next patch, but so very much not currently

 

[Ormorof]

Animist + FoP > any DoT

Maybe next patch, but so very much not currently

mjollnir/spears > shrooms

 

[Solthyann]

more brave than attacking undefended RK with 150+ppl
was like 20ish albs gw!

As you lot are at it again I'll qualify the above, or at least the ludicrous logic you're trying to make

20 Albs vs undefended and incapable of being effectively defended RK is nothing you will get respect for (apart from your own fawning realmmates) - you will get recognition of course, and you'll reduce our Caster bonus, just no respect

150 Hibs vs undefended and FULLY CAPABLE OF BEING DEFENDED RK is nothing ALBS will get respect for either (just the chance for you and your fawning realmmates to whine Hibs instead of recognising your own problems)

Lose-Lose to the Albs imo :kissit:

 

[Solthyann]

albs have (1)no way of doing a primetime raid on hibs succesfully, Even if we get 150 ppl online at apk chances are we wil be spotted before we leave apk casue of massive lagg arround it. Then hibbies cry in aliiance and every rp hungry animist or chanter logs on his toon in the relic keep. Ok 30 minutes later alb arrive at the relic keep and charge doors .. have xxx uber guard to fight if they didnt take keeps and there are 300 shrooms arround . Half the force insta dies at doors rest dies of pbae at keep and from guard pop.

easiest way to take a relic is to have big numbers and stay undetected you really cant fail this way. But for a rr in Emain you simple wont stay undetected and (2)i think ppl should respect the albs that still try even if they know its a lost cause and sometimes they get lucky and even take a relic with 2fg .. ofc there are xxx random hibs who will cry lame etc etc and then make a uber large relic force stay undetected and reclaim it then go on FH and gloat how uber they are... :touch:

So learn to think

(1) Bullsh*t!! - Bring your force through the RvR dungeon and greatly reduce your chances of being seen at APK/AMG (Mids have done that to us more than once)

(2) If you want respect then - (a) Have people in HW and stop people getting to your RK undetected (b) see (1) above



Hardly rocket science

 

[Oro]

So learn to think

(1) Bullsh*t!! - Bring your force through the RvR dungeon and greatly reduce your chances of being seen at APK/AMG (Mids have done that to us more than once)

(2) If you want respect then - (a) Have people in HW and stop people getting to your RK undetected (b) see (1) above



Hardly rocket science

Such condescending...

1) RvR dungeon mostly hunted by artifact xp'ers on all sides therefore is often occupied and in the case of Mid entrance its right on the Svasud-Glenlock mainline used by most Mids for getting to Odins. In the case of Hib its practically on top of a keep thats close to being a ping-pong keep so many people take it and therefore a lot of activity in the area. RvR force exiting = lag worth investigating.

2) As said on previous posts nobody wants to sit in a zone for an entire evening of their recreational time doing nothing because nobody goes there to fight or rarely do anyway. Might not sound realm spirited but the only reason that people are in the entrance zones of the other 2 realms is because there is traditionally a lot of activity there.

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Not overly worried by these factors as any relic raid depends on a large amount of luck and in the case of raiding Hib, an exceedingly large amount of luck.

And as said by other people, in other posts and on other threads. I hope all the people yelling at Albs to stop crying remember their words bitterly when New Frontiers arrives.

Muhahahaha(TM)

 

[Gahn]

Oro / Roo

Such condescending...

1) RvR dungeon mostly hunted by artifact xp'ers on all sides therefore is often occupied and in the case of Mid entrance its right on the Svasud-Glenlock mainline used by most Mids for getting to Odins. In the case of Hib its practically on top of a keep thats close to being a ping-pong keep so many people take it and therefore a lot of activity in the area. RvR force exiting = lag worth investigating.

2) As said on previous posts nobody wants to sit in a zone for an entire evening of their recreational time doing nothing because nobody goes there to fight or rarely do anyway. Might not sound realm spirited but the only reason that people are in the entrance zones of the other 2 realms is because there is traditionally a lot of activity there.

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Not overly worried by these factors as any relic raid depends on a large amount of luck and in the case of raiding Hib, an exceedingly large amount of luck.

And as said by other people, in other posts and on other threads. I hope all the people yelling at Albs to stop crying remember their words bitterly when New Frontiers arrives.

Muhahahaha(TM)

NF aint having a clue with AlarmClock Raids, comes NF albs will take all relics DURING prime time? Kudos to em. Now u get em at 5 am? I say kids, go sleep ...

 

[Araudry]

NF aint having a clue with AlarmClock Raids, comes NF albs will take all relics DURING prime time? Kudos to em. Now u get em at 5 am? I say kids, go sleep ...

seems like u never tried NF so why are u trying to make a points on it ?
btw it ill be another story in NF way easier to get relics and can keep all 6 no problems :>

 

[Araudry]

As you lot are at it again I'll qualify the above, or at least the ludicrous logic you're trying to make

20 Albs vs undefended and incapable of being effectively defended RK is nothing you will get respect for (apart from your own fawning realmmates) - you will get recognition of course, and you'll reduce our Caster bonus, just no respect

150 Hibs vs undefended and FULLY CAPABLE OF BEING DEFENDED RK is nothing ALBS will get respect for either (just the chance for you and your fawning realmmates to whine Hibs instead of recognising your own problems)

Lose-Lose to the Albs imo :kissit:

i see more respect in 20 alb trying to take DEFENDED relic than 150 hibs trying to take UNDEFENDED relic whatever the time is and take a lot less time to get to hib power relic than alb one so it make it even easier
imo stuf and go xp noob

 

[Araudry]

As you lot are at it again I'll qualify the above, or at least the ludicrous logic you're trying to make

20 Albs vs undefended and incapable of being effectively defended RK is nothing you will get respect

150 Hibs vs undefended and FULLY CAPABLE OF BEING DEFENDED RK is nothing ALBS will get respect for either

when i see ur logic it make me laugh hah

 

[Awarkle]

Here how it works ill explain in big friendly letters so you dont get confused.

Albion = Much higher population, Higher population of lvl 50's (i should know i did a /who 50 when i was last there) cant defend their relics during the day against numbers they could easily double.

Hibernia = much lower population, lower population of lvl 50's Can defend their relics and will defend relics during the day.

Albion has to take 1fg (or couting in alb terms) 2fgs of people to take keeps then to take an undefended relic keep when there are less than 1fg online well done to the person who pulled that off. Obviously the might of hibernia has been shown how well that albion pulls together personally the other 300 other albs just just come and join hibernia its obvious that they dont need the population if they can take these keeps with 2fgs.

ANyways im an insomniac i might just go off and solo the relic keep with a fop bot then come and crow here with my 1man team.

 

[Araudry]

Here how it works ill explain in big friendly letters so you dont get confused.

Albion = Much higher population, Higher population of lvl 50's (i should know i did a /who 50 when i was last there) cant defend their relics during the day against numbers they could easily double.

Hibernia = much lower population, lower population of lvl 50's Can defend their relics and will defend relics during the day.

Albion has to take 1fg (or couting in alb terms) 2fgs of people to take keeps then to take an undefended relic keep when there are less than 1fg online well done to the person who pulled that off. Obviously the might of hibernia has been shown how well that albion pulls together personally the other 300 other albs just just come and join hibernia its obvious that they dont need the population if they can take these keeps with 2fgs.

ANyways im an insomniac i might just go off and solo the relic keep with a fop bot then come and crow here with my 1man team.

ok can u explain me whats undefended and defended cause it seems u dont even know urself what it mean...
when we got to hib relic keep there was already 1fg+ hibs and they kept coming and they were 2fg+ when we got killed
so if u call that undefended then i see why u still replying here with crap..
in morning alb dont have many 50s like mid and hibs u think cause we have more than hibs at prime time we still have 400 albs in morning?

 

[Awarkle]

1fg of random level hibernians ranging from probbly 20 to 50 quite possibly crafters and pvers maybe ml 1 maybe a few toa items.

Verses 2fgs of from what it seems opted Toa Ml capped albions.


Well i can see how the 1fg of hibs will really put up a fight against those odds i mean a lvl 20+ person will really stand up against albion.

It doesnt matter i wont even reply your defending yourself for a 5am relic raid when all the time you moan and whine when it gets done to you.

The fact remains you got the chance of more people online in the morning than hibernia.

Get some balls and relic raid during the prime time instead of going to emain for arpees.

 

[Araudry]

1fg of random level hibernians ranging from probbly 20 to 50 quite possibly crafters and pvers maybe ml 1 maybe a few toa items.

Verses 2fgs of from what it seems opted Toa Ml capped albions.


Well i can see how the 1fg of hibs will really put up a fight against those odds i mean a lvl 20+ person will really stand up against albion.

It doesnt matter i wont even reply your defending yourself for a 5am relic raid when all the time you moan and whine when it gets done to you.

yes ofc rr8-9 are random and lvl 20...

also stealthers with som are lvl 20 on hibs so used to abuse animist...

and i said in the thread (u proly didnt read anyways)
half of albs was random from apk that didnt know about relic raid

 

[Bubble]

God how they cry
and another thread about the same crap i'll sum it up ready-
1- 200 Shrooms is enough to insta kill lots of albs, IE if theres 3+ animists in the keep we will not be able to take relics during primetime (server crash too 4tw..anyone remember the last prime time raid on hibs? )

(summery- you have op keep offence/defence class's..200 pet limit doesn't hurt you that bad)

2- Emain is a Active RvR zone, Hadrians wall isn't. I can cry all i want about this, i can go there and no see a hib or mid, its not my fault, its no no ones, the only thing is- I heard about the relic raid when a Relic guard died- you were long gone before i reached the keep. Any attempt on hib relics will be spotted(hibs do RvR believe it or not!) and will be defended in force.

(Summery- if you attack us, the chances are we will not arrive in time to defend)

3- Theres nothing in the CoC to say we can't take relics during the morning, i have a job and cba to ever get up that early by my own free will the way i'm reading the raid- 16 attacked, 9 defended, the 9 killed the 16(animists) and then the albs used SoS to get the relics due to the doors not being repaired, looks to me like the relic was defended even at this Twilight hour and was defended well enough to kill the raid force....if door 3 was repaired(or any door) we wouldn't of succedded (Summon wood..) PS- everyone who talked about Honour- DO you use a buffbot? does your group kill soloers? have you ever attacked when you knew the enemy wouldn't defend? My Answer to those questions is YES, the same answer mids and hibs will give if they are honest.

(summery- theres nothing wrong with 'Alarm clock' raids infact they used to be common and were accepted.)


Dunno why i bother posting this, hibs will probley just respond QQ NEWBIE! Alarm clock raider with no honour.

 

[Awarkle]

i love the 3 animists = 200 shrooms mathematics

1 animist = 15 shrooms
3 animists = 45 shrooms
195 shrooms = 13 animists

im lucky if i can get 8 animists together let alone 13.

also you saying that among those 9 that one of them is convoker and got 400+ woodworking skill

 

[Araudry]

i love the 3 animists = 200 shrooms mathematics

1 animist = 15 shrooms
3 animists = 45 shrooms
195 shrooms = 13 animists

im lucky if i can get 8 animists together let alone 13.

when we tried to bash the doors we had many shrooms just at doors and not able to hits any of them and they were in melee range..
nice to see hibs also have to abuse bug to win
rly nice xD

 

[Awarkle]

i wasnt there but i choose to defend my class that will be nerfed into the toilet.

Mushrooms are spawned onto pre defined lock points which is why i can drop a mushroom into the lords room. Its not a bug abuse because we checked with mythic it is a feature.

If mushrooms are being spawned on to a dodgy spot its not the animists fault its called shite mythic coding that has been asked to be fixed for the past 3 team leader reports.

And your right bubble nothing in the Coc about alarm clock relic raids but generally when they are done by mid or hib they get whined at by the albs likewise the hibs are now whining at albion for doing the same. But as it seems that all gloves are off it wouldnt surprise me if alarm clock rr's become the norm.

I know for one im not going to be doing 12 hour shifts to defend the relic keep like i used to do ive got better things to do than stay up till 6 am in the morning defending a virtual relic that we can just retake during the day.

 

[Justicator]

1- 200 Shrooms is enough to insta kill lots of albs

So true! Mostly because albs are stupid enough to run in the middle of shroom field and try to melee 'em down.

 

[Bubble]

i love the 3 animists = 200 shrooms mathematics

1 animist = 15 shrooms
3 animists = 45 shrooms
195 shrooms = 13 animists

im lucky if i can get 8 animists together let alone 13.

also you saying that among those 9 that one of them is convoker and got 400+ woodworking skill

I thought the nerf was during NF not earlyer
45 is enough tbh for a nice defence

 

[Bubble]

i wasnt there but i choose to defend my class that will be nerfed into the toilet.

I'm not digging at animists, just saying even with 20 defenders, 70 albs would have great trouble getting the relic (Mana being a popular spec for chanters and eldys too)

 

[Gahn]

Ah

seems like u never tried NF so why are u trying to make a points on it ?
btw it ill be another story in NF way easier to get relics and can keep all 6 no problems :>

I think u didn't get the point of my post but nm, keep on covering asses of your lame realm m8s for all that i care.

 

[Edlina]

I thought the nerf was during NF not earlyer
45 is enough tbh for a nice defence

Ye well mebe you should do some research in the class before whining and instead of trying to defend an alarm clock RR

 

[Bubble]

Ye well mebe you should do some research in the class before whining and instead of trying to defend an alarm clock RR

Maybe accept the appology instead of flaming me? (probley useless saying that to you, Awarkle however might read it for what its worth)
Still the point stands that it would be too difficult for Albion to take a defended relic during Primetime

 

[Phusion]

lets compare the whole situation a bit:

alb power relic keep:

- way from Sauvage (point where most albs are bound) to alb power relic keep: this travel takes 15-20 mins without speed.
- HW: most emptiest RvR area of all 3 portal keep zones.
- Myrddrin (sp?): relic keep that is more far away from a bk then any other relic keep in the game.
- Way to get to the alb power relic keep: most dangerous (mob wise), most difficult, most annoying way there is.. (all other relic keeps are easy to reach).
- MG's: never guarded because lag of enemies/albs in HW.
- Hotc: not much used RvR dungeon.

Hib power Relic keep:

- way from Ligen to dagda: 10 mins max at normal speed. (and don't tell me i am wrong because i played hib myself.)
- Emain: most used RvR zone, there are always hibs here and it is nearly impossible to pass the amg without being spotted by hibs.
- Dagda: hib relic keep just outside Cain, at normal walk speed you take about 2 mins to go there. No green/blue/yellow con mobs that aggro, nothing, fucking easy to reach.
- Way to get to dagda: as said above..
- Mg's: AmgE, always camped by some hib stealthers, impossible to move a relic raid army thru there without being spotted.
- Marfach: always hibs exping there, it is ofc possible to clear it but chance is still big that you get spotted.

and ofc the population effects all this stuff too..

so.. all in all alb power relic keep is uber hard to defend while hib relic keep is as nearly the most easy to defend power relic keep in this game.

so yes, it is nearly impossible to do a successfull relic raid on hib power relics primetimes, as alb that is..

"mids can do a primetime relic raid.. why can't albs?" - simple, amgE is the problem, it is always camped, by hibs, mids or albs, there is always something there, and because of that it is nearly impossible to get past it. while the mmgE is much more easy to get through. Also there are many more players between apk-amg then there are between mpk-mmg. you can ask like all hib stealthers: where do you go first... mmgE or amgE?? i think that everyone knows the answer to that.

not defending albs doing alarmclock raids, but i don't mind that they are doing it either, it's their time, if they want to raid the relic, let them do it. I don't mind hibs/mids doing alarmclock raids either ofc.

a well, that's just what i think about it.

sorry for my crap english etc etc