Graffiti, what's your opinion?

Huntingtons

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let 'em have it, them vandals - what are the general nerds opinion of this artform?
 

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Yes they are vandals because they destroy public belongings and thus are criminals. Each year our state pays millions of euros to repair the damage they deal.

BUT!

That does not mean I dislike some of it. Graffiti is an art and not just some rubbish on walls. It takes a lot of practice to do these, so I think some really grey areas should be enlightened by these people in a nice way. There are awesome graffitis and they really fit well on some places. Just look at subway tunnels, they would look so much brighter with paintings on them. Or some grey old trains really would like it.

I'm pro graffiti, but please controlled and not uncontrolled spraypainting.
 

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Depends where and how its done.

If its some spunk head writing his name on anything that takes there fancy with absolutely no talent what so ever, I say make them eat glass then lick his crap grift off the wall.

If its against what would otherwise be a horrible plain concrete wall and the artist has alot of flair etc. Then bravo, more please :clap: .
 

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Huntingtons said:
let 'em have it, them vandals - what are the general nerds opinion of this artform?

Took the GF to Rome last weekend for St Paddy's day
and every available surface was covered in graffiti
She commented on 'americanisation of europe' till we both remembered our history lessons and recalled how romans have being scrawling on walls for thousands of years before subways and aerosols were invented.

I have a friend at home who helped out on some of these
not exactly Banksy, but it means something to people from my home town.

Give someone a spray can/bucket of paint, a wall and a brain and they will have something to say.
Give a teenager a spray can/bucket of paint. a wall and some hormones and he/she will have something to say too.

Neither does any real and lasting harm, and could just provoke a reaction that makes you think about something worthwhile.
More graffiti, less fcuk t-shirts isn't a bad thing.
 

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liloe said:
Yes they are vandals because they destroy public belongings and thus are criminals. Each year our state pays millions of euros to repair the damage they deal.

BUT!

That does not mean I dislike some of it. Graffiti is an art and not just some rubbish on walls. It takes a lot of practice to do these, so I think some really grey areas should be enlightened by these people in a nice way. There are awesome graffitis and they really fit well on some places. Just look at subway tunnels, they would look so much brighter with paintings on them. Or some grey old trains really would like it.

I'm pro graffiti, but please controlled and not uncontrolled spraypainting.

She summed it up the best <o/
 

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ive seen some truely stunning works of graffiti and i would never consider it vandalism, just as some people see peircings and tattoos as enhancements of human beauty graffiti can be an enhancement to any landscape.

however as has been said here, some of it is just plain crap lol but even the crap is sometimes better than some of the twaddle they exhibit in the Tate.

but then who am i to say whats good and whats not, everyone has different preferances and thank god for that, the world would be desperately depressing if everything was uniform.
 

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i depends whats on the wall.... if its some retartds so called "dag" or something its rubbish... and should be bunished...but some works are just amazing.

its the retartds tha scrib somethings stupid and idiotic on the wall and call themselfs artists that are vandals :p

those who make art acctually...those guys roxx :)
 

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Morchaoron said:
real graffiti can be nice, tagging is just for kids...
my opinion too

depends where it is obviously too, but nice graffiti art, like memorial pictures of people that got killed, civil rights etc very good
 

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Megarevs said:
Graffiti is ok, tags are just ugly

Agree.
Street Art > Graffiti > Tags

Some London councils are now paying certian artists to graffiti the sides of buildings so its not all rubbish. But the people who just write thier name can FO.
 

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Haggus said:
Vandals ?! wtf

Who are you to judge them ?

and who are you ?

I've had my property scribbled on 8 times in the last 4 months, anyone who draws on public or private property without permission should have the book thrown at them imo, Vandals doesnt even come close.
 

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stuff like this is wicked

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this is shit

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Hate that fucking guy with a passion
 

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well, i am quite tired of seeing every place messed up with graffitis & tags. Public surfaces are for all people, and therefore one shouldn't force everyone to see his "art". I don't go around and force people to have my shitty paintings on their walls :p (thou i don't paint). and you'll have to admit most graffitis are shit.

But the biggest issue is those 12w kids drawing "fucks" everywhere.
 

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Used to be one myself so kinda don't mind it - though tags etc are a disgrace, good graffiti can liven up an otherwise dull area - though it can be inappropriate in certain places. I think the artist owes it to themself and the enviroment around them to consider where they are spraying and not just spray each and every bit of concrete they can find - someones house or opposite a window is just wrong - but I always love walking down an alley or off the beaten track and coming across a really good piece of graffiti - kinda like a mini urban art oasis type thingy imo :)

Banksy is a genius, been meaning to buy his book for ages and this has just reminded me so think will pop to teh bookshop on me lunch :)
 

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People who don't respect their surroundings should fuck off. Simple.

I know! I hate where I live! So let's spray FUCK all over the walls to look even worse! Good idea!!

Twats.
 

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Agree with Evsy

Grafitti such a tagging defaces public / private property sucks. Its makes property and entire areas look run down and shit. Anyone who comes up and starts justifying tagging as inyaface urban expressionism can bite my shiny metal ass. If I catch anyone spraying their shite little tags I'll rip out their eyes and skull-fuck em.

Some Grafittists have turned their artistic skills into public recognition. Like Banksy in London, who's work can be seen all round Brick Lane, for example. There's even been a book of his art written.

If you like expressing yourself so much, do it on a canvas, or your own property, or somewhere where no one can see it, take a pic of it, and put it on the net.
 

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Tears said:
and who are you ?

I've had my property scribbled on 8 times in the last 4 months, anyone who draws on public or private property without permission should have the book thrown at them imo, Vandals doesnt even come close.

Vandals can fuck off. Calling all vandals. Come round my house and have a go. Bring as many of your dopehead glue-sniffing benefit poncing jobless skinny shitbag chav scumbags as you want. I'll fucking rip you all to shreads.
 

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Lamp said:
Agree with Evsy

For that statement alone...rep for joo :)

I think in an ideal world all graffiti would be commisioned and therefore placed in appropriate areas etc - just come back from Amsterdam and on some of the residential flats we were staying in - all the outer stairwell walls were graffiti'd but in a organised way - names of the houses etc on them, no tags - such vibrant colours brightened the place up no end. Our local Ice Rink commisioned a few artists to do a huge mural as you walk in - gives the place a real funky energetic feel - ideal in a sports centre imo.

I think the main problems with it though breaking through as an artform as opposed to being vandalism is the association to tagging/crap graffiti etc and also the generation thing - maybe in 10-20yrs time it will be more accepted as its our generations that are growing up with graffiti more and more. That and chavs with marker pens n cheap spray cans who ruin areas with "I love Chav'in" "Bob 4 Bill" etc - that isnt graffiti , its vandalism.

I know what Eggy means as well though - just up from my house some little monkeys have sprayed a load of garage doors with crap - nothing artistic just idiots wanting to be vandals to make em feel hard - that gets my goat - it is an eyesore, though it makes me wanna either go whitewash it or spray over it myself with something decent..only thing , whitewash will just be like giving them a new canvas - at least with some decent art most vandals wouldnt be bothered to whitewash an area to redo it themselves - so its kinda the only solution in some respects to fight fire with fire - though that doesnt make it right either..
 

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Tears said:
and who are you ?

I've had my property scribbled on 8 times in the last 4 months, anyone who draws on public or private property without permission should have the book thrown at them imo, Vandals doesnt even come close.

Doesn't matter who I am does it ? I'm not the one judging them.

I'm sorry to here that your property got "tag'd" but someone forgot to mention the difference, BIG difference between "tagging" and graffiti.

Give these people somewere to do it and it wont happen on public places anymore.

Fight fire with fire ? lol ok mate you try that and watch what happends. They wont sit back and think oh fuck were in for it.
 

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Haggus said:
Doesn't matter who I am does it ? I'm not the one judging them.

I'm sorry to here that your property got "tag'd" but someone forgot to mention the difference, BIG difference between "tagging" and graffiti.

Give these people somewere to do it and it wont happen on public places anymore.

Fight fire with fire ? lol ok mate you try that and watch what happends. They wont sit back and think oh fuck were in for it.


Nah im sorry thats bollocks.

/grfeeti/
• plural noun (sing. graffito /grfeeto/) treated as sing. or pl. unauthorized writing or drawings on a surface in a public place.

The street art above is authorised chalk drawings that simply vanish when it rains, graffiti isnt, its vandalism and its pathetic - pure and simple.
 

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Huntingtons said:
let 'em have it, them vandals - what are the general nerds opinion of this artform?

ure teh nerd so give us ure opinion....
 

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Haggus said:
I'm sorry to here that your property got "tag'd" but someone forgot to mention the difference, BIG difference between "tagging" and graffiti.
I am sure, everyone of those who are doing nice graffitis now, have sprayed shit & tagged a lot before. It's unrealistic to think they would have practised at home and went to the streets when they had become good as they are now. So you kind of can't allow good graffitti on public places and disallow bad graffiti & tags.
Haggus said:
Give these people somewere to do it and it wont happen on public places anymore.
Well we all know that's not true :p
 

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