GoV Dragon Raid Sunday Nov. 9th

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Oddorvard

Guest
Ghosts of Valhalla will be hosting a dragon raid this sunday. All attendees will be receiving a carreer respec stone and a realm abilities respec stone. Minimum levels are 50 for tanks, 48 for seers and runies.

All 100% items dropped will be lottoed with a /random 100 lotto. Only one drop per attendee. You can nominate a level 50 alt if if you do so at the same time as you sign up (the alt must exist on Duskwave). If you have to leave before the lotto you have to notify me along with your requested drop and I will /random for you. You can only roll for an item if your class can use at least 3 stats (regardless of spec). Non 100% items will be salvaged or sold and gold will be used to buy wood which GoV store at relic keeps.

We meet at Galplen at 14:00 GMT/15:00 CET. If you are not in Galplen within five minutes of that time you will be replaced by a reserve.

All attendees must have at least 26% slash and cold resists. Tanks must have either Determination 3 or Purge. Casters must have MCL. Some power healing potions will be handed out before the raid starts as well.

If you sign up for the raid you agree to the above rules as well as to obey rules decided upon by me at the time of the raid. Furthermore you agree to read and go by the tactics described below.

Part I: The Groups
Group 1 - FULL
Shammy (at least 35 aug): Kojak
Healer: Bazza
Healer: Blodgivare
Healer: Xrn
Runie (49 dark, at least 10 supp): Greenpower
Skald: Sourcream
Tank: Oddolas, group leader
Tank: Risino

Group 2 - FULL
Shammy (at least 35 aug): Blirtax
Healer: Vell, group leader
Healer: Ormund
Healer: Shanae
Runie (at least 10 supp): Oneeyedjack
Skald: Chosen
Tank: Grimgor
Tank: Urme

Group 3 (Aggro Group) - FULL
Shammy (at least 35 aug): Calem
Healer: Cant
Healer: Kaieldan
Runie (at least 10 supp): Quven
Runie (at least 10 supp): Dalmore
Warrior (50 shield and MoB2): Thagred, group leader
Skald: Dynamit
Savage (purge, IP, det): Meekur

Out of group - FULL
Bonedancer (at least 46 supp): Duact

Reserves
Shammy (at least 35 aug): Hartraft
Healer: Tchaka
Runie (49 dark, at least 10 supp): Phuze
Skald: Bjorne, Harebear
Tank: Yaruar, Takhasis, Reinhartkoselleck (shieldbot), Ironblade (shieldbot)

Tank means all viking classes and both rogue classes.

Part II: The Assignments
Bonedancer
The BD's task is to buff the whole raid with absorb buffs every 10 minutes. This is done by macroing every player on the raid with a /target macro. The following macro should be used to make all the small macros: /macro Master /macro %t /target %t
When the BD is not buffing he should be guarding one lair entrance (see tactics).

Shield Tank
The Shield Tank's task is to guard the Main Aggro Holder (MAH) with his shield.

Runies
Runies cast bladeturn on the MAH and should have a /target <MAH Name> macro. Darkness runie should buff all melee with damage add every 10 minutes. For this he should use /target macros for all melee - see the Bonedancer section. Runies do not attack the dragon in any way.

Shamen
Shammies rez the tanks and buff them. It's very important that end regen is the first buff they use. Shammies also buff resists every 10 minutes. Shamen do not attack the dragon in any way.

Healers
Heal the MAH and their own group with the smallest baseline heal. Use a /target macro to select the MAH. Rez casters and buff them, It's very important thatPoM is the first buff they use. They also have a part in guarding entrances, see tactics. Healers do not attack the dragon in any way.

Tanks
Tanks do what they do best, hit the dragon. It's important that they only use detaunt styles to make sure aggro stays on MAH. Detaunt styles for Mid weapon lines are the following:
Axe: Hoarfrost
Hammer: Placate
Sword: Temper
Left Axe: Use Main hand detaunt, e.g. Hoarfrost, Placate or Temper
Hand to Hand: Taunting Call

Main Aggro Holder (MAH)
The main aggro holder will be a Savage. Using taunt shouts, attack speed buff and melee resists buffs (the dragon attacks are slash only) he will constantly taunt the dragon. Evade buff has to be up too in order to reduce the amount of hits that get through.

Part III: The Tactics
The Savage in the aggro group will keep aggro for the whole fight, fully buffed using taunt styles and taunt shout every 30 seconds. With bubbles, a shield tank guarding and evade buff always up, he will not be hit very often. The hits that do get through will be partially absorbed by the BD absorb buff and with resist buffs the damage will be further reduced.

Arrival at Lair
The aggro group goes straight for the dragon. MAH will be the only one attacking the dragon at this point while the shield tank guards him and runies cast bladeturn on the MAH. The other two groups will take out any adds in the lair. During that the MAH must not be healed - if low on health he can use IP. When all adds have been cleared by Groups 1 and 2 their tanks can attack the dragon with detaunt only. At this time healing by shammies and healers is allowed using smallest baseline single heal only. Healers and shammies should only heal within their own group.

It is important that once the raid has entered the Lair, no one can leave the lair. Those close to exits must be extremely careful that they are still within the lair.

AoE Attacks
Gjalpinulva has two different kind of AoE attacks. The first one is a targetted AoE DD which hits a single player and all those around him. That player gets a warning shortly before saying that Gjalpnulva glares at him. At this point this player will have to sprint away from the other players. If a player is stunned and Gjalpinulva glares at him he must use Purge and sprint away.

The second one is a PBAoE that hits everyone close to the dragon. These attacks are not directed at any specific player but are triggered by health percentages of Gjalp herself. These are the warnings called out and the approximate health percentage:
  1. 95-90%: You feel a rush of air flow past you as Gjalpinulva inhales deeply.
  2. 75-70%: Gjalpinulva takes another powerful breath as he prepares to unleash a raging inferno upon you.
  3. 50%: You notice the dragon struggle slightly as he takes yet another deep breath.
  4. 30%: Gjalpinulva winces noticeably from his wounds as he attempts to prepare for yet another life-threatening attack!
  5. 10-5%: With the small amount of energy left to him, Gjalpinulva unleashes a final devestating breath attack!
When these warnings are displayed, players have about 3 - 8 seconds to run away as far as possible from the dragon. These PBAoE attacks wipe most raids!

All tanks are required to make the following warning macro: /macro nuke /c DRAGON NUKE INCOMING!

The Retrievers
At around 40% health Gjalp will pop her retrievers and send them away. These dog-like mobs run at speed 6 towards the exits of the lair. It is of uttermost importance that none of these mobs are allowed to leave the lair. If they do they will come back in 2 minutes with 12 - 20 very purple mobs that are impossible to kill with only 25 players and a healthy dragon. Therefore, at 45% health, two players from each group guard one entrance. Healers with insta CC will mez/stun these mobs and call for help within their group to have them killed (skalds are best for this due to speed).

AoE Stun
At around 20% health the dragon will begin to PBAE stun his attackers. This stun lasts for up to 30 seconds if not resisted. Here it is important that the MAH uses purge and has determination to get rid of the stun. At this time healers should move out of PBAE range in order not to get stunned.

Part IV: The Secrets
Some people maintain there are secrets to keep the dragon's AE attacks from being cast; don't use procs, don't cast spells, everybody has to be ungrouped. Those things are false. The important thing is that everybody knows their part 100%. The BD casts absorb buffs, the runies cast bubbles and dmg add, the tanks detaunt etc.

Part V: The Thanks
This is more or less a direct translation of this document written by Sanys Sil of Fedaykin on Mid/Dartmoor. Apparently this has been pulled of with 17 people too.
 
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fl3a

Guest
well, just my comments on tactics:
the 3fg raids ive been on (BC raids), the dragon breath hasnt gotten the raid wiped, but the adds that retrievers bring have. if everyone has capped cold resist + cold resist buff the breath shouldnt be a very big problem, if people run away from the center of the blast.

also, afaik the retrievers dont have a hp % associated with them, they can appear at a random time.
 
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Whisperess

Guest
Would like to snag last healer spot in group 2.

Shanae - 40 mend/36 aug, everything capped on SC + mcl2 and some aom. (and PR ofc)
 
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heists

Guest
sign me up as reserve shammy, lvl 50, 47aug 26mend, capped cold/slash resists, will lotto for my sb
 
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xrn

Guest
Healer signing up, 39 mend 37 aug... got purge, mcl2 and pr, everything capped with SC.
 
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Takhasis

Guest
Sign me up please:

either as Takhasis L50 Hunter fully capped on SC/resists

or

Hartraft L48 (almost 49) shaman - 47 aug with MotA 3 and MCL

take your pick
 
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cattebrie

Guest
you havent put a detaunt style for spear :)
 
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jakobi

Guest
Great double post :> and I just found out I can't attend on sunday :<
 
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Xmi

Guest
Nice clear post!

Unfortuantely I still need 2 levels to meet your criteria! /sob
 
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bouh

Guest
i dont know why ppl dont like to use the tactic (http://forums.barrysworld.com/showthread.php?threadid=91066) which was successfuly applied on their realm/server.

personally i see many "slippery" moments in teh german tactical schema. And yes, their tactic was known to me before i've ever orginized the 1st BC DR.

in advance BC DR tactic got improved durring 9 attempts we've made and we've killed Gja 5 times.
So i've gladly shared my knowledge and expirience but it seems that ppl r going to learn on their own mistakes as we were doing due to lack of information and expirience.

Nevertheless, GL on DR :)

Sincerely,
 
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reinhart

Guest
Would like to join the reserve team for this Dragon raid

Shieldwar MoB3 Det3 Purge

Reinhartkoselleck
 
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old.anubis

Guest
be sure all peeps have sc gear, or at least capped con/hits and slash/cold resists, tanks with det4+, healers with purge (tho save purge for the time it's needed, dragon stuns few times, completely random)
been nuked once for 1800+ having 63% cold resist o_O
so better use buffbot shamans with 47 aug :p

and watch for teh dogs
1 escaped dog can ruin everything
 
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-evull-

Guest
Savage (purge, IP, det)

...

ain't got IP :(

i'm avalible anyhow.

-Nash, savage.
 
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Meeks

Guest
Signing up as savage(hth), IP, purge and ofc Det 4, everything capped

Wants to nominate my skald(Meeka, swordspecced) since there are no savage drops at all from dragon in this patch :/
 
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choka

Guest
healer signing up if you still in need of any , 40mend / 36 pac

got purge , mcl , some aom and pr
 
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noaim

Guest
Group 3 (Aggro Group)
Shammy (at least 35 aug): Calem
Healer: Cant
Healer: Kaieldan
Runie (at least 10 supp)
Runie (at least 10 supp)
Warrior (50 shield and MoB2): Thagred, group leader
Skald: Grobo
Savage (purge, IP, det)


Signing up my runie for one of those RM-spots, and a friends RM for the other if thats ok.

RM names are Quven and Dalmore. Both got 10+ supp.
 
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duact

Guest
ill take the bd spot 48 supp bd with capped sc armor
 
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Ironfoot

Guest
Signing up for warrior spot if still available

I got a 50 warrior with 50 shield and MoB 2

name ironblade - is a kobold though if it makes a difference
 
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Oddorvard

Guest
Ok, I have updated the group lists. Please check the first post in this thread to see if you have been admitted and to which group you belong.

Only available position now is darkness runie.

Darkness runie and another healer might be useful for the reserves as well.

Reserves will be called out in the order they appear above. If, however, a shield bot is required instead of a tank, shield bots will be called out in the order they appear.
 
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Oddorvard

Guest
Originally posted by bouh
i dont know why ppl dont like to use the tactic which was successfuly applied on their realm/server.

personally i see many "slippery" moments in teh german tactical schema. And yes, their tactic was known to me before i've ever orginized the 1st BC DR.

Nevertheless, GL on DR :)
If you read the tactics described above I'm sure you'll see that they are almost exactly the same. Main difference lies in numbers of savages, numbers of taunters and the supp BD.

If you could point out to me these "slippery" moments I would be most grateful.
 
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old.Sko

Guest
Originally posted by Oddorvard
If you read the tactics described above I'm sure you'll see that they are almost exactly the same. Main difference lies in numbers of savages, numbers of taunters and the supp BD.

If you could point out to me these "slippery" moments I would be most grateful.

The problem is that dogs appear _at random_ we saw Gjalp spawn em at 90% health, almost immediatly etc. So you need people with ranged abilities cover all exits from lair. Sometimes due to bug they run through walls of lair, so best position is a bit outside of exit. Pac healers are perfect for the job since they are able to insta em, then call tanks to kill. 2 skalds as it was proven dont cut it.

Adds can be pulled before engaging dragon using amnesia/nearsight.

purge/pr etc should be saved for the moment dragon stuns.

its recommended to change /broad and /say channels to red color so you wont miss warnings about aoe/pbaoe attacks.

have rezzer logged near since not everything can work perfect =D

supp bd is nice, but not exactly nessesary =D
 
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Oddorvard

Guest
Updated: two skalds have become unavailable and therefore there are now two skald spots and one dark runie spot open.
 
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megahealer

Guest
Part I: The Groups
Group 1
Shammy (at least 35 aug): Cyndre
Healer: Bazza
Healer: Blodgivare
Healer: Xrn
Runie (49 dark, at least 10 supp): OPEN
Skald: Sourcream
Tank: Oddolas, group leader
Tank: Risino

Signing up BF for RM (Greenpower) spot (50 dark, 20 supp)
(lotto for his 50 warrior Judgment-sword specced)

Group 3 (Aggro Group) - FULL
Shammy (at least 35 aug): Calem
Healer: Cant
Healer: Kaieldan
Runie (at least 10 supp): Quven
Runie (at least 10 supp): Dalmore
Warrior (50 shield and MoB2): Thagred, group leader
Skald: OPEN
Savage (purge, IP, det): Meekur

signing up my skald (Dynamit) for last spot
(lotto for my 50 shaman Moulin)
 
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Phuze

Guest
Sign me up for reserver Dark/Supp RM

im 47 dark / 26 supp

pm me on phuze or fuze if needed
 
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bjorne

Guest
I´ll gladly take skald spot then
Got about 37 % cold resist unbuffed =)
 
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Iri

Guest
Originally posted by Oddorvard


The Retrievers
At around 40% health Gjalp will pop her retrievers and send them away. These dog-like mobs run at speed 6 towards the exits of the lair. It is of uttermost importance that none of these mobs are allowed to leave the lair. If they do they will come back in 2 minutes with 12 - 20 very purple mobs that are impossible to kill with only 25 players and a healthy dragon.

Last time i went on 3fg DR a retriever escaped and brought the adds, was a hard fight but we killed adds and the dragon, so its no impossible ^^
 
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harebear

Guest
might be a bit late but i saw that you are needing one skald so if possible ill sign up mine (harebear) i got the resists ok =)
 
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Tasans

Guest
Oddo i cant make it tomorrow so replace me. Kojak i think is the reserve shammy.
 

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