Goodbye Awimp =/

[DaggerElivager]

Maybe it's better for people to remember and learn from your 'mistake'.


There's a fine line between 'lame ass whine' and 'positive criticism for the good of the community'. It may also be considered acceptable behaviour to slightly sidetrack a thread, because it is on a similar topic to Awimp's reason for leaving (you were even the one who brought it up, so why should we not discuss it?). Also, the whole 'whining about whining' (ad infinitum) defence can be brought up against your 'post ur lame ass whine sumwhere else'. The whole 'get a life' thing strikes me as odd, perhaps hypocritical, coming from one who is undoubtedly a hardcore Dark Age of Camelot player.

how is he a hardcore daoc player then?? and invisibul already had a thread etc about him and no good will come of people like you trying to analyse him or his actions again.

p.s. on topic the t***s who made sumone leave shud feel small and beg him to forgive them

 

[Edgar Frog]

how is he a hardcore daoc player then??

He seems quick to defend himself and repent for his 'accidental' sins, hardcore for the community's perceived respect for him, perhaps because he doesn't get enough exposure to people in life outside the game he is so quick to defend his virtual name.

and invisibul already had a thread etc about him and no good will come of people like you trying to analyse him or his actions again.

No good comes of most posts on Freddyshouse.

 

[DaggerElivager]

He seems quick to defend himself and repent for his 'accidental' sins, hardcore for the community's perceived respect for him, perhaps because he doesn't get enough exposure to people in life outside the game he is so quick to defend his virtual name.

No good comes of most posts on Freddyshouse.

thats a load of crap cos you have no clue whaat invisibuls real life is like, you just making pointless assumptions which you cannot back up.

 

[Edgar Frog]

thats a load of crap cos you have no clue whaat invisibuls real life is like, you just making pointless assumptions which you cannot back up.

So perhaps you vehemently arguing for the case of another person over an online reputation indicates a deeper insecurity within you.

 

[DaggerElivager]

So perhaps you vehemently arguing for the case of another person over an online reputation indicates a deeper insecurity within you.

yepp im really really insecure...

i just dont see why you shud try to tarnish his reputation and at the same time sound like a complete retard but there we go.

feel free to say wot u want and try and act higher...be bk in a week.

 

[Morchaoron]

what if he has another 'accident' in hib and they will go ballistic too (since behaviour is not realm-bound), he will go to mid then?

 

[Straef]

Edgar. May i call you Froggie?
You seem to have some highly evolved issues concidering your replies on fh.
You might not get as many negative replies if you .. stop being a retard..
Just a tip, Froggie m8

 

[Edgar Frog]

stop being a retard.

Asking someone you perceive to be a retard to 'stop being' one strikes me as asking a cow not to be a cow. Surely a retard is helpless to change his or her retarded situation.

 

[Dwali]

Today Awimp/Ogric/Silverstaff left albion. He deleted his chars and is no more.
He left beccause some people took the verbal abuse over a single mistake to new horizons.


I was Proud to be his Guildmaster and Uranicus and I has lost a friend but gained an Challenging enemy. He has moved to Hib.

I hope you hibs treat him better than we Albs did.


*sobs and has to eat a few cookies to stop crying on her keyboard*

Dimse Dut

then i welcome a Old Alliance member from DoA/bionguard alliance to hib...hope he have more fun here with us!!!

Dwali/jalin Former alb plr for 2 years now playing hib and like it

 

[atos]

Look at the bitch.. err alb fight. GO GO flame more thanks.

 

[Iceflower]

>the kind of abuse that would land you in court

A raid leader with a bit of backbone would have kicked a few of the abusers when it started to turn ugly. Obviously he/she didnt have what it takes to control crowds in real life.

 

[Morchaoron]

>the kind of abuse that would land you in court

A raid leader with a bit of backbone would have kicked a few of the abusers when it started to turn ugly. Obviously he/she didnt have what it takes to control crowds in real life.

total bullshit, a good raid leader would have kicked the one who messed up and told the rest to stfu because it doesnt matter anymore cuz he already dealt with it...

the one who messes up should be kicked because he provoked it, not the crowd because they GOT provoked...

a good raid leader would wants to FINISH HIS RAID, and kicks people because of their shortcomings and not because 'he thinks someone is not a nice guy' or 'he abused someone who screwed up'

 

[mirieth!]

am i the only one who thinks it's really funny that this tit deleted level 50's over a single argument?

got mountain out of a mole hill? xo

 

[Straef]

Asking someone you perceive to be a retard to 'stop being' one strikes me as asking a cow not to be a cow. Surely a retard is helpless to change his or her retarded situation.

K... stop ACTING like a retard.

 

[Iceflower]

>total bullshit, a good raid leader would have kicked the one who messed up and told the rest to stfu because it doesnt matter anymore cuz he already dealt with it...

You apparently didnt understand what I wrote so lets clarify for you He did the first part you mention, ie kick the one that didnt follow order, and failed completely on the second part (that is what my post covered), judging from the posts above, that is when harsh measures is needed to control the crowd. More clear now? To manage a crowd that gets into bloodlust frenezy requires backbone. Period. You'd be amazed how fast people pay attention when you insert personal risk into the equation.

 

[Morchaoron]

You apparently didnt understand what I wrote so lets clarify for you He did the first part you mention, ie kick the one that didnt follow order, and failed completely on the second part (that is what my post covered), judging from the posts above, that is when harsh measures is needed to control the crowd. More clear now? To manage a crowd that gets into bloodlust frenezy requires backbone. Period. You'd be amazed how fast people pay attention when you insert personal risk into the equation.

i wouldnt mind the crowd going into bloodlust, its his loss not the raidleaders...

once again, the raidleader tries to do the raid, whoever the zerg calls a **** is not his problem, he has to lead the zerg to victory and he's not a moralknight who judges people for their behaviour towards others who they got a problem with, if people have a problem with each other thats their buisness as long as it does not affect the raid, actually its not even the raidleaders call to tell people to stfu because they can say whatever they want (apart from spamming in the battlegroup, because that affects the raid)

a good leader ignores that which is not his buisness
a stupid leader removes those for a reason that has nothing to do with the objective

i do understand and what i plainly mean is: the raidleader shouldnt give a fuck, ignore, and go on, rather have some people verbally abuse someone who provoked it then remove them because i think its 'not very nice', and if they broke the CoC, hey, thats their problem, not the leaders!

 

[Iceflower]

Well if the bs in the chat channel turns into "thinks that can be brought up in a court matter" it is most certainly the raid leaders responsibility to focus the crowd again. You Sir apparently dont have the backbone it takes to make the hard decisions. Laisse faire management tha you propose is the worst kind of management you can chose. Proponents of that school aint no leaders...just plain traffic polices telling people where to park their toons...

I am happy I dont have to run in a raid you organise, sounds like chaos theory in practice.

 

[Morchaoron]

total bullshit again...

a raid leader focusses on the raid, his objective is to complete it, nothing else, its not his call, if they want to tell him to FO thats fine...
only a fucking moron would start removing his hard needed manpower, thats just plain dumb and not EFFICIENT
and you cant even compare irl leading with ingame leading, thats just total bullshit too, obviously you know nothing about it...
bad leaders in daoc are these that dont know what to do, who does not instruct his people enough, who is standing around doing jackshit while everyone is waiting, that is what makes people leave and cause the raid to fail...

if the zerg bitches at someone while they are still following orders, whats the problem then? let them, if they are not tell them TO LISTEN

and i never failed at completing my objectives when i lead, and even i have dealt with morons in appropriate manners...

please, dont compare this with real life leading, makes no sense at all...

 

[Deepfat]

Welcome to Hib Awimp

Just thought I'd make a postive comment in amongst the "other" comments

 

[Morimdin]

You had 90+ albs there, that for a second thought they'd lost the entire step and the pre-req items, which is why I think ppl took it so badly.

so it's fair if i kick a person in the nuts because i _THINK_ he called me a dickhead? :touch:
givf silverstaff back ;X he was even nice to strangurs!

 

[Jobil]

>the kind of abuse that would land you in court

A raid leader with a bit of backbone would have kicked a few of the abusers when it started to turn ugly. Obviously he/she didnt have what it takes to control crowds in real life.

Yep, because it's really easy for a raid leader to follow the pms between other people, it's the priviledge of being a raid leader, you get to see all the pms sent on a raid.... The bg flaming didnt last long as Ogric left VERY shortly after his cock up.

 

[Jobil]

so it's fair if i kick a person in the nuts because i _THINK_ he called me a dickhead? :touch:
givf silverstaff back ;X he was even nice to strangurs!

Don't be "Holier than thou"

 

[Stoned Viking]

A wise man once said "On a raid there are 2 options, either you lead or you follow" Simple rule that everyone can go by. If you mess up a raid be prepared to confront the abuse you will get from the numerous ppl that actually try and work together. I support the "backbone" thing said.. They give you abuse? Either stand up for your actions and apoligise, or stand your ground and give any who abuses you 10x back.