Good rvr fg alb

Blackguy

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Been toying around with diffrent fg setup, comments on them and perhaps your own ideal fg!

All of all grp:

Pala (s/s)
Reaver
Sorc (mind)
Cleric ( rejuv)
Friar
Mincer
Wizzard (fire)
Theurg

Ice pbaoe grp:

Cleric (rejuv)
Friar
Reaver
Wizzard (ice)
Wizzard (ice)
Wizzard (ice)
sorc (mind)
Mincer

Tank fun:

Cleric (rejuv)
Cleric (rejuv)
Arms
Arms
Pala
Reaver
Sorc (mind)
Sorc (body)
 

Serathule

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Blackguy said:
Been toying around with diffrent fg setup, comments on them and perhaps your own ideal fg!

All of all grp:

Pala (s/s)
Reaver
Sorc (mind)
Cleric ( rejuv)
Friar
Mincer
Wizzard (fire)
Theurg

Ice pbaoe grp:

Cleric (rejuv)
Friar
Reaver
Wizzard (ice)
Wizzard (ice)
Wizzard (ice)
sorc (mind)
Mincer

Tank fun:

Cleric (rejuv)
Cleric (rejuv)
Arms
Arms
Pala
Reaver
Sorc (mind)
Sorc (body)

No one is good tbh m8.. in the first 2 grps u need atleast 2 clerics.. then u have friars in both.. not the best class :/ anyway in the last grp u should have mercs instead of armsmans and one theurg imo.. Gl
 

Asty

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cleric
cleric
pally
air theurg
air theurg
spirit cabby
mind sorc
merc

or

cleric
cleric
minstrel
pally
spirit cabby
spirit cabby
body sorc
mind sorc




imo..
 

ShivaW

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Serathule said:
No one is good tbh m8.. in the first 2 grps u need atleast 2 clerics.. then u have friars in both.. not the best class :/ anyway in the last grp u should have mercs instead of armsmans and one theurg imo.. Gl

agree, group with 1 cleric only is sux anyway, you need 2 cleric + one bg pally to make base group :)
 

Krane

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I dunnow why is everybody dissing the friar...

In caster grps imho its even better than a pally...it has bg too and also has resist buffs, heals..just need to play it defensive..

The setup i wud prolly run atm is:

Cleric
Cleric
Friar
Theurgist
Sorcerer (mind)
Sorcerer (body)
Cabalist
Mincer
 

vintervargen

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pfft..

cleric
cleric
pally
sorc
cabalist
theurgist
merc
reaver

good players and that grp would kill everything on excal imo.
 

serious

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full caster grps dont work in albion atm..niether do full tank grps.

we need to make a mixed grp.

1 cleric
2 cleric
3 sorc mind/split
4 sorc body/split
5 cabby spirit
6 merc
7 merc/reaver
8 mincer/theurg/cabby/bg-friar/bg-pala

we as albs consistently take more dmg as the enemy because of the "nuke" resist buffs being on the friar. wish we could change that.

S.
 

flex

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vintervargen said:
pfft..

cleric
cleric
pally
sorc
cabalist
theurgist
merc
reaver

good players and that grp would kill everything on excal imo.

doesn't work, only 1 demezzer & that being the sorc

forget any demezzes, u have about no chance when u lose mess, & if you got purge down, u can forget it too
 

Unalive

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We run the second group asty said but im finding unless we get the jump were kinda screwed as whole group dies in seconds :). Guess thats the same with all pure caster grps. Would be nice to fit a friar into it for resists instead of a pala but with grapple imune tanks I still prefer pala for slam and end chant + friar will drop very fast with 2-3 tanks assisting on him compaired to a pala.
 

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vintervargen said:
pfft..

cleric
cleric
pally
sorc
cabalist
theurgist
merc
reaver

good players and that grp would kill everything on excal imo.

Maybe in NF (if there are any fg fights then)...but while reavers/pally don't have det wouldnt be as good.

Ran in this group a fair bit and worked well...

cleric
cleric
mind sorc
body sorc
theurg
fire wizz
fire wizz/spirit cabby
bg arms
 

Unalive

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Reavers are so undervalued atm, I would go as far as saying its the best interupter / damage dealer tank there is. I would take reaver over armsman now even with no determination puerly because of this.
 

Clipse

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a wicked set- up is :

Wizard (ofc :D )
Cleric
Cleric
Pallydin
Theurg
Theurg
Sorc (split spec)
Merc

If you take out the support asap, teh enemy is dead, so since all these classes have uber range, we r on a winner. The only problem is only 1 demezzer, which is a huge problem for Albs, thats why insta-mezz is so damaging to us. People seem to think sorc range is the be all and end all, but you dont realise just how easy it is to get into 1500 range and click insta, or u r being naive. even if you win the mezz battle, you will invariably get mezzed.

:D I don't really like these set groups tho, coz a group really is as good as the people in it.
 

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I can think of plenty of good alb group setups...most need 16 people per group, but isn't that what BGs are for? :D

How about this

1) Cleric (Rej/Smite) - Perfector
2) Cleric (Enh/Rej) - Perfector
3) Paladin - ML8 BM
4) Reaver - ML8 BL
5) Cabby (46 Spirit/28 Body) - ML9 Convoker
6) Cabby (46 Spirit/28 Body) - ML9 Convoker
7) Sorc (44 Mind/31 Body) - Stormlord
8) Minstrel - Sojo

This gives access to;

2 different forms of CC (3 if you include Cabby AOE snare, but I don't :p)
2 demezzers
2 debuff-nukers (plus assist from Sorc)
buff shears and top buffs
red elemental resist buffs + heal-proc buff
solid healing (hell, even the cabbies have life transfer!)
speed 5
power regen
banelord AOE debuffs (and the soon-to-be-nerfed ReaverBomb(TM))
best interrupting classes in the game (reaver/mincer/sorc)
3 interrupting pets with ML9 convoker buff

Could possibly look at having one Warlord cleric and one Perfector cleric for nice stuff like PBAOE end usage reduction and + 10% chance to crit.

However, I'm happy to admit that I'm usually wrong about pretty much everything (like my idea about an opted 8-friar GG...that was ugly) so feel free to comment :puke:
 

flex

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3spec cab >>> full spirit cab

+ reaver dmg = levi after slam, wich gets a huge hit in dmg output vs 50% caster resists.
 

Dorin

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1 cleric
2 cleric
3 mincer
4 friar / paladin
5 theurg
6 cabbie
7 cabbie / merc
8 sorc

must have : theurg , can toy around with the rest
 

Arnor

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serious said:
full caster grps dont work in albion atm..niether do full tank grps.

we need to make a mixed grp.

1 cleric
2 cleric
3 sorc mind/split
4 sorc body/split
5 cabby spirit
6 merc
7 merc/reaver
8 mincer/theurg/cabby/bg-friar/bg-pala

we as albs consistently take more dmg as the enemy because of the "nuke" resist buffs being on the friar. wish we could change that.

S.


Now we're talking realistic groupsizes :p

vintervargens group looked the best imo
 

Unalive

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flex said:
3spec cab >>> full spirit cab

+ reaver dmg = levi after slam, wich gets a huge hit in dmg output vs 50% caster resists.

This is why you use a cold lgm weapon for levi.
 

blaze

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vintervargen said:
yes, pre NF you can switch the merc for a ministrel if you feel the need for demezzing.

ministrel sux. why not try with a Minstrel instead?
 

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Minstrel w/speed,
Minstrel w/pet,
Minstrel w/pet,
Cleric,
Cleric,
Sorc w/pet,
Theurg,
Wizz

Minstrel:
SoS into battle,
Pet on support,
Stun & Zephyr casters / tanks

Sorc [MA], theurg & wizz:
Pet on support,
nuke [MA] in order: Support then casters then tanks

Cleric:
Buff shear casters / tanks,
heal if nessesary

Would probably work quite well if it wasnt for 1 key ingredient:
- They need to pick a target themselves when entering combat...
 

iluvatur

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we've always done well with teh following


Mind sorc (44mind/31 body)
Body sorc (49 body rest mind)
Body sorc (47 body rest mind)
spirit cabalist (46 spirit)
spirit cabalist (46 spirit)
cleric (41/45 rejuv rest enhance)
cleric (either 41/45 rejuv or 44 enhance 31 rejuv)
friar/minstrel/theurgist/paladin

last place is interchangeable, if minstrel is in group, he should lead and sprint in on bard on sight and try stun, if bard wastes insta mezz on him sorc is free to mezz group, and even if they GP we arent going to be hit with an insta straight after it.

friar for ele resist and BG with extra heals and rezzes

theurgist for even more pet spam on support

paladin purely for bodyguard and elemental resists (heat and energy twisted for hibs) ( cold and spirit for mids )

rest of group:

2 x assist lines that can drop any class in a second or two, 5 pets to stick on support, hundreds of debuffs, and all mages have lifetap to help with suriveability.
 

waok`whips

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Please, don't patronise the reavers.

How many fucking ml8 RR5 reavers you think will be on EXCAL when NF comes out? ML10 maybe, but RR5? Please.. how many fucking reavers do you see emain nowadays?

It makes me laugh eachtime I see these posts and the reaver class gets mentioned.

Trust me, NF you will see a boom in reaver population no doubt, because of the hype about the 'reaver bomb', but without that RR5 ability, reavers will be looked upon just as useless as they are now, which is absolute BS, if you look at reavers now, you will realise what a great aid they are to groups.

It seems the only guilds which ever had balls with using reavers is FC,TB and HB. HB being probably the only guild now that still uses a reaver.

You will find most reavers will carry a tone of end/pow regen pots and normally have purge, I was always reluctant to use purge due to its re-use timer to its cost of 10 pts, you had to weigh the odds up alot more than you do with anyother class, the chance of being rooted etc, you had to think alot more about using purge, when and how etc.

Maybe NF will bring good to the class, but I think its a shame people shud this perfect class away for 2+ years then expect RR5 reavers to all of a sudden pop outta nowhere.

/rant
 

Asha

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I have one that is almost rr5 if anyone is interested :D
vinter?
 

Blackguy

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I chose Rejuv cleric for obvious reasons. Also I took the friar to be a tougher version of the cleric, and can in some cases even manage to hurt quite a lot. Reavers are the best mage interrupter Ive seen so far, and also the fastest, If the reaver dosnt get mezzed he can charge into hib druids bards eldrichts chantes and really hamper "the hib" way of warfare. On his way he'll just land a slam on their tank, and then the grp gets mezzed and they are ready to be picked. Pala for end yes, I'd even take 2 sorcs body mind, and a mincer and a theurg, This setup is very good versus hib grps on excal, which consist most of pbaoe grps, and you need to interrrupt that grp doing what they do best, cast spells, reavers are a must there!

Cleric
Friar
Reaver
Pala
Sorc
Sorc
Mincer
Theurg
 

flex

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i really don't see why you would choose a body sorc above a mind or split sorc for any group.

second mezzer + yellow pet > 209 dd or debuff.

Aoe root stays the same unless you go very high body where you lose your aoe mezz, (well, still got it for interrupt, but u gonne get way to much resists)

The damage increase of the 209 dd vs the 189 dd (caby & sorc lifetaps get a 6% bonus dmg/delve for an unknown reason) + 2.8 sec vs 2.5 sec castime is really not enough to lose the other utility.

Mind sorc + split sorc >> mind/split + body sorc anyday imo
 

flex

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Blackguy said:
I chose Rejuv cleric for obvious reasons. Also I took the friar to be a tougher version of the cleric, and can in some cases even manage to hurt quite a lot. Reavers are the best mage interrupter Ive seen so far, and also the fastest, If the reaver dosnt get mezzed he can charge into hib druids bards eldrichts chantes and really hamper "the hib" way of warfare. On his way he'll just land a slam on their tank, and then the grp gets mezzed and they are ready to be picked. Pala for end yes, I'd even take 2 sorcs body mind, and a mincer and a theurg, This setup is very good versus hib grps on excal, which consist most of pbaoe grps, and you need to interrrupt that grp doing what they do best, cast spells, reavers are a must there!

Cleric
Friar
Reaver
Pala
Sorc
Sorc
Mincer
Theurg

not debuffed nuking with 209 delve dd (especially body sorc) is not very effective. You gonne hit like 350(-250). Where you would hit 600 with 50% debuff & like 500 with 30%.

Relying your only damage output on non debuff nukes is tricky
 

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Unalive said:
This is why you use a cold lgm weapon for levi.

Yes use cold legendary in group fights and hit always vs 50+% resists and beg it proccs when you need it? No thanks, atm I prefer having a 100% quality rog with the celerity procc and change to Snakecharmer after it proccs (or Snakecharmer completely). Getting the 5 levis after slam is good when possible but i get to die quite fast in fights cause of my pbaoe interrupts probably :)

PS: Give body legendary weapon!! :)
 

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