GOA too harsh on emote spamming?

[Corran]

Personally I think that 3 days isn't harsh enough, if you don't have a strong enough deterent then people will still abuse because the punishment doesn't hurt them very much. That said though if GOA are prepared to perma ban repeat offenders (3 strikes and you're out) then I think the current punishment of 3 days is just fine. If someone is retarded or anti-social enough to get suspended 3 times then they really don't belong in an MMO anyway.

GoA stated to me that repeated use of it will incur a harsher punishment each time so in theory this could actually lead to a perma ban. I was reported (93 emotes or something on a sb that chased grey con for 5minutes) however i got a warning as it was the first blackmark on the account. Had long conversation with them and they told me 10 emotes in most cases is the limit you should do (which i notified on here to some people)

And like in Requiel post on that forum, I too went through a stage of reporting alot of people that emote spammed me 20+ times. Namely stealthers and people that acted like twats on these forums mind you. Letting off the people i respected or felt had reason for doing so. Maybe wasnt fair of me but what comes around goes around ( GoA wouldnt state the other person involved so assumed worse of people that i didnt like).

It is annoying when people flood you with emotes, you dont even have to be dead for people to do so and as such you can miss important information your trying to view. I use emotes alot on people camping bridges or zerging me however i limit it to about 5 per person im emoting just to convey my thoughts about them.

3 days and warning of harsher punishment normally does the trick, the people i have reported haven't done it to me again though they had in past many times so i guess they learned a lesson. If you cant convey your point in under 10 emotes then you got a serious problem

 

[Rookiescot]

Fact is that spamming emotes is a pain not only to the person receiving the emotes but to anyone in the general area.
I dont have a problem with some little attention seeker getting banned for being a pain to the other users of the game.
We all know the rules GOA have set out.
Spam at your peril.

 

[Chimaira]

Nocare.exe for goa is launched but

Requiel always say they follow some strict lawbook that mythic came up with.

then why isnt Mythic spending their time banning people for emote spamming?

1. either yanks arent retarded and reporting (err)
2. they dont find it worthwile
3. its not bannable there

So Requiel to tell me why they banning here

 

[DocWolfe]

to be honest, its the game thats at fault, if its a bannable offense, like exploiting them surely there should be some kinf of game mechanic to stop someone doing like 5 emotes in a row at the same person.

 

[Dorin]

so basically you are saying GOA should ignore people who make legitamate complaints....

1, ppl who get offended by emotes should get out more instead of using RN
2, ppl report others as they are well aware of the current goa policy (said that in ohter topic too)so they can get others banned if not they wouldnt care less bout emotes
3, basically i say the resources should be used to catch cheaters, abusers, restoring chars instead of baning paying customers for using ingame tools this or that way.... Shouldnt be hard to code a timer on emotes i guess if this "spaming" (which can be totally IGNORED by teh ignore command fyi) is a major problem
4, You can disable EMOTE messages aswell
5, and yes i find it silly that goa bans emote spamers by reports ("the neighboor is not loyal to the party... comes the black car" system), not with some automated system which would give a warning to cease your spam and behave yourself.

Next will be people reporting others by getting killed by granny pets?

 

[Chimaira]

Would it be so hard to add a delay between the emote's?

say cant do more than 1 emote every three seconds?

no

but since Mythic aint banning people for it they wont implent it ingame and therefor goa wont have it and they arent allowed to change the game.

 

[Tafaya Anathas]

Requiel always say they follow some strict lawbook that mythic came up with.

This isn't true, GOA instabanning macro crafters while Mythic not.

" From the head of in-game customer service: ”When we catch people using this, we first suspend the player for 5 days and wipe all of his tradeskills to zero. Second time is a ban.”"

 

[Chimaira]

This isn't true, GOA instabanning macro crafters while Mythic not.

" From the head of in-game customer service: ”When we catch people using this, we first suspend the player for 5 days and wipe all of his tradeskills to zero. Second time is a ban.”"

Mythic still gives only a 3 day ban for ppl that radars after already been warned/banned before.

they claim on website they ban all but they aint.

repeated radaring and only a few days ban is so lame.

so I could radar like hell and get banned friday spend weekend with gf/buddies then be back monday

 

[Heta]

still is a fact that mythic and goa aint got same rule book

 

[Corran]

Mythic still gives only a 3 day ban for ppl that radars after already been warned/banned before.

they claim on website they ban all but they aint.

repeated radaring and only a few days ban is so lame.

so I could radar like hell and get banned friday spend weekend with gf/buddies then be back monday

And this makes Mythic better then GoA ? Because Mythic dont perma ban repeated cheaters? Intresting view. Hell if i had my way any radar use would be perma ban right away simply because it breaks a whole magnitude of rules and fucks up the game so badly for those that dont use it

 

[Morchaoron]

Simple, stick in some code, if you spam a player more than 5 times you get a 10 men res sick, that'll stop it.

Spamming Sickness

 

[LawBringer]

Mythic still gives only a 3 day ban for ppl that radars after already been warned/banned before.

they claim on website they ban all but they aint.

repeated radaring and only a few days ban is so lame.

so I could radar like hell and get banned friday spend weekend with gf/buddies then be back monday

You are running the risk of a more painful penalty using Radar though - currently a test case going on as I speak, if you look at your EULA for your ISP - it clearly states you are not allowed to use their connection for Hack's Exploits Offensive/Racist/Homophobic etc etc. You could find yourself banned from using the internet completely.

 

[Bag]

This whole thing is ridiculous if you can't take a few lines of spam sod off and stop playing online games

 

[Shanaia]

I think it's hillarious that we are voting on something that could be avoided by not being childish pricks...

Just
don't
do
emotes
more
then
once

Problem solved ...

But in stead people decide that they're going to ignore the fact that people are being sad fucks and in stead whine about the people that try to stop them from being sad fucks.

o
k

 

[Chimaira]

And this makes Mythic better then GoA ? Because Mythic dont perma ban repeated cheaters? Intresting view. Hell if i had my way any radar use would be perma ban right away simply because it breaks a whole magnitude of rules and fucks up the game so badly for those that dont use it

heh sorry for being unclear mate. I meant its total bullshit that Mythic uses the light bullets for those cheaters where as GoA aint

You are running the risk of a more painful penalty using Radar though - currently a test case going on as I speak, if you look at your EULA for your ISP - it clearly states you are not allowed to use their connection for Hack's Exploits Offensive/Racist/Homophobic etc etc. You could find yourself banned from using the internet completely

Ye your right. but I doubt my ISP will know if I radared mythic servers in DaoC

 

[Shanaia]

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[Chimaira]

Hail to the Shan

 

[Mey]

Nocare.exe for goa is launched but

Requiel always say they follow some strict lawbook that mythic came up with.

then why isnt Mythic spending their time banning people for emote spamming?

1. either yanks arent retarded and reporting (err)
2. they dont find it worthwile
3. its not bannable there

So Requiel to tell me why they banning here

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[Ovi1]

Spamming emotes spoils others enjoyment of the game.

The only ways that it can currently be avoided is by turning off a feature, either Emotes or messages from specific individuals (/ignore). The spammers don't pay my monthly subs, so what right have they to make me turn off in game features to avoid their anti-social behaviour?

Normally I would say that a ban is a bit harsh, and that a warning should be sufficient, however on this topic now enough people have been whining about bans that everyone should be aware of the situation, and if they continue to spam then to be perfectly honest they deserve the punishment they get.

I can't say that spamming has ever annoyed me enough to even consider reporting someone, but anyone caught spamming at the moment really only have themselves to blame.

It would be nice for Mythic to code some anti-spam measures in to stop the issue in the first place, but in it's absence people should use some common sense, and have some consideration for others.

 

[Ballard]

Are you a paying Customer of the Dark age of Camelot European Servers, if the answer to this question is NO, then please piss off back to the American arse you crawled out of Kthxs. The GOA gm owes you no explanation.

ofc because someone who has played for atleast 2 years on the servers isnt allowed to continue to post and discuss the game and servers on these boards....

Why dont you leave off with the inane posts that have no value in any discussion?

 

[Gamah]

Are you a paying Customer of the Dark age of Camelot European Servers, if the answer to this question is NO, then please piss off back to the American arse you crawled out of Kthxs. The GOA gm owes you no explanation.

These are not GOA offical boards, they are public forums, you have no right telling him what he can and can not post.

 

[Ctuchik]

So their crime is "being childish"?

I think it's too harsh, sure it's a pita, but like people have said before, turn emotes off or /ignore.

If someone /laughs at me 72 times i wouldn't feel any different to if someone /laughed at me twice though. The only problem i can see is the spam in the chat box?

and the fact that anyone around u would get the spam also.

i'm all for banning repeted emote spam. theres nothing as annoying as having some infil/scout/ranger/NS spam emotes at u while they are stealthed insted of acually try to kill me.

 

[popa]

when mythic put the emote have too think about that
solution 1. remove emote on rvr/pvp
2. " u cant make more that X emote on 30 secs"

 

[Overdriven]

They should of known this was going to happen, their fault. Use what's given to you.

 

[Gamah]

and the fact that anyone around u would get the spam also.

i'm all for banning repeted emote spam. theres nothing as annoying as having some infil/scout/ranger/NS spam emotes at u while they are stealthed insted of acually try to kill me.

Really? Thats the most annoying thing you can think of? What about..Spice Girls? Tweenies? Big Brother? POP IDOL MAN POP BLOODY IDOL!!

 

[Chimaira]

Are you a paying Customer of the Dark age of Camelot European Servers, if the answer to this question is NO, then please piss off back to the American arse you crawled out of Kthxs. The GOA gm owes you no explanation.

Right home boi

 

[Ezteq]

how about an emote timer? i seem to recall they had timers on quite a few things when i used to play so could they not do a 5 emote limit them you have to wait 10/15 mins for your emote timer to come back up? that way folk might save their emotes for when theyre usefull/funny?

 

[Ezteq]

point taken, reading too fast, and may other people have said it. Funny that you see the text but read what you want to hear.

what was that Tea? you want to mail me your credit cards and id numbers? wow cheers bud :worthy:

 

[GReaper]

After a quick test, /say and /yell both come up with "Slow down! Think before you say each word!" if you spam them too much. Emotes, /send, /gu and probably most other chat channels don't have any protection.

If such protection was added, it would take over 10 seconds to break the CoC (1 second per message, 10 messages for CoC abuse).

 

[Drungan]

i remember the ole days where you could have a spontaneous dancing party with glasny while you've waited for the ports.

tho i see the point of the nastyness certain emotespam brings, that was deffo some funny stuff that would get lost. enough easiness and fun gone already in that game (sure community has it's share with that), would leave a bitter taste for me if i'd get suspended for dancing with glasny and some others for instance.

Hell, our guild even had it's own /emote dance, guess we can screw that for the future or do it with Queen Cliodna in the Bog