Goa In Violation Of Their Own Rules

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living

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yup.. lamest post ever really :) Wuldent be cool if e´vry1 where named something like "oihjnoitejo" to make sure it was legal.
 
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Aeiedil

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hmmmm, you nicked my masterplan to take over the world with ppl with untypable names, and thus being untrackable by computer systems :D
 
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cougar-

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suprising that excalibur board just gave headless answers without even thinking first, and that prydwen board actualy got a good discussion about it.
 
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Sibanac

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Originally posted by cougar-
suprising that excalibur board just gave headless answers without even thinking first, and that prydwen board actualy got a good discussion about it.



This just says it all
Originally posted by Jupitus
I reckon this is a bit anal guys - sure someone else has been a bit anal in complaining about this name, but ultimately if a player complains to GOA that they are offended by a name then really they have to react to that complaint.

As far as I am aware they have been consistent in this policy from the start - if someone complains with reasonable cause then they will react in some of these 'grey area' names rather than acting as name nazis and banning every single dubious one they can find. That's a position of reasonable tolerance.

Your compilation will put them in a difficult position - alot of the names you have given are borderline in terms of whether they break the CoC or not and under normal circumstances would most likely be left well alone, but now that they have receieved a formal complaint they are likely to have to take action... how popular will NP be after that happens, I wonder?

Wiser way to complain would have been to contact them quietly and ask them to reconsider the decision, wouldn't it?
 
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Khalen

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Names of characters and guilds
Although character names in keeping with the age and kingdom in which they are to develop are welcome, players are free to give their characters whatever names and nicknames they wish, as long as they respect the following rules. Please note that these rules also apply to guild names and surnames.
- No names with insulting, degrading or racist connotations.
- Names must consist solely of alphanumeric characters.
- No religious, sexual or political references.
- No brand names, product names, character names or any other elements subject to copyright.
- No inciting of illegal conduct.
- No references that degrade other players' characters or GOA personnel.
- No titles of nobility or prestige. Some of these can be acquired on the Camelot battlefields.
- The names of legendary people from the three kingdoms are tolerated, but please bear in mind that developments in the game may bring these names into question.
- No names that could suggest that the character may belong to the GOA team or have the status of Volunteer or Gamemaster.
- No names of towns, regions or characters in the game. If necessary, however, guild names may make reference to such places or characters.
- All these bans also apply to combinations, homonyms and alternative spellings of such names as are disallowed by this Charter.
GOA reserves the right to implement penalties imposed on players whose character names impair the community spirit of the game.

Penalties
GOA reserves the right (at any time and without prior notice) to reduce access to or block an account temporarily or definitively if the user has not respected this Charter, has encouraged another user not to respect the Charter or has caused harm to the user community.
Characters whose names do not respect this Charter may be renamed by GOA. This does not exclude the imposition of other sanctions concerning this particular violation of the Charter.


Sums it all up nicely now crawl back in yah cave :D

The point is that the name is a sensitive name in today's life. Don't say it doesn't refer to Milosevic because it does. Everyone who says Slobodan says Milosevic. They are simply linked to each other. GOA has the right to do almost everything they want. Dunno why people value their char names that much.
 
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Gabrial

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I think their point is it isnt a political name - Slobodan is quite a common name in certain parts. Its like Joseph - thats a common name but combine it with Stalin and its a different matter. Stalin murdered more people than (Adolf) Hitler (if my history serves me rightly) but noone would complain about someone called Joseph would they?
 
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Khalen

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Originally posted by Gabrial
I think their point is it isnt a political name - Slobodan is quite a common name in certain parts. Its like Joseph - thats a common name but combine it with Stalin and its a different matter. Stalin murdered more people than (Adolf) Hitler (if my history serves me rightly) but noone would complain about someone called Joseph would they?

Because a lot of people don't know entire names of certain historical persons...
 
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Gabrial

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Exactly my point!

Slobodan is a perfectly normal name and had he combined it with milosovich (or however its spelt) I would be 100% agreeing but he didnt so i dont:)

/edit:
Joseph = OK
Joseph Stalin = not OK
Slobodan = OK
Slobodan Milosovich = not OK
 
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Aeiedil

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i thought this was just another attempt at a flame thread and i was bored @ uni

anything worth being said has been said, if you go through being so picky about every borderline case because your name was reported then you will clutter up rightnow with complaints that will need to be checked, thus increasing reply times for proper reports that werent done just because your name was complained against, blahblahblah
 
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Garnet

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No religious, sexual or political references.

Hehe Soruzi your in trouble :)
 
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[CT]Clone1

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Couple of things...

Firstly, why do people feel the need to complain. In all honesty I can't see that the complaint is a TRULY genuine one by someone who has some deep grievance with Slobberdon MeLuvvaBitch. If names offend you that much or in any deep personal nature - use SHIFT-N - problem solved - no more names.

It seems to me that certain people on Alb will complain about ANYTHING and EVERYTHING and GOA are NO HELP. They have shown time and time again that if someone spits their dummy out about something, GOA will simply suspend their account for 7 days, no questions asked.

Goes like this....

[Dave] GOA, this <insert flame> stood too close to me when I was lvling and it put me off so I got killed!
[GOA] Fine.

BANG - 7 day suspension for <whoever>

GOA need to bring a degree of "live with it" to Camelot or it's just gonna be full of a load of whining people swamping rightnow with pointless shite.

Secondly, GOA's memory of historical places / people is just short of nil. We recently organised a Hari Krishna march in Albion, which rightly so we requested permission from GOA before we did it.

They sed no to the name, because of religious connotations.

Fair comment we said, can we call it Harry Kisinger?

No, as this directly refers to a person in history and this is not allowed?

Harry Kisinger? Well, I'VE never heard of him - so I rightly corrected GOA and explained to them to perhaps they were thinking of the Nobel involved HENRY Kissinger - first name Alfred - to which they replied... (direct quote here):

">sorry for the mistake, my knowledge seems to shrink everyday ;)
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> Anyway I talked to the GM and Harry Kisinger is allright. I hope you will have
> a pleasant journey.
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> Regards,
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> ---------------------------------------------
>
> European Dark Age of Camelot Customer Support"

My point on that matter is - if you really want your name or whatever then dont be afraid to argue with GOA. From previous experience their first response is ALWAYS the maximum and most harsh available. They do budge though if you push them.
 
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uncle_sal

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Originally posted by cougar-
suprising that excalibur board just gave headless answers without even thinking first, and that prydwen board actualy got a good discussion about it.

I dont think boards give answers :)

Anyway... if id name my char Saddam or Osama... what would be first name to occur to your mind? They are propably quite common names somewhere... Slobodan doesnt give me these kinda images in my head, but might do it to some1 else...

and why would any1 have to think about it... its funny that some1 has time to put that kinda effort in flaming goa or whatever you are doing, but why would every1 have to agree its right way to go?
 
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cougar-

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Originally posted by uncle_sal


I dont think boards give answers :)

Anyway... if id name my char Saddam or Osama... what would be first name to occur to your mind? They are propably quite common names somewhere... Slobodan doesnt give me these kinda images in my head, but might do it to some1 else...

and why would any1 have to think about it... its funny that some1 has time to put that kinda effort in flaming goa or whatever you are doing, but why would every1 have to agree its right way to go?

good post [CT]Clone1 !

uncle_sal Prydwen players tend to read Prydwen forums, Exc players read Exc forums, sorry i was so unclear about this.

I dont care if you agree, just dont want silly smiley or other retarded answers.
 
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Sibanac

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Originally posted by cougar-


good post [CT]Clone1 !

uncle_sal Prydwen players tend to read Prydwen forums, Exc players read Exc forums, sorry i was so unclear about this.

I dont care if you agree, just dont want silly smiley or other retarded answers.

You want my opinion : Its a retarded post by some analretentive whiner looking for same attention, post doesnt diserve much more then retarded comments and smileys
 
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uncle_sal

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Originally posted by cougar-
suprising that excalibur board just gave headless answers without even thinking first, and that prydwen board actualy got a good discussion about it.

But you knew you are gonna get smiley/retarted/single line answers? All posts do... i dont see the point...
 
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cougar-

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Originally posted by Sibanac


You want my opinion : Its a retarded post by some analretentive whiner looking for same attention, post doesnt diserve much more then retarded comments and smileys

Already your second post, you seem to care.
 
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rure

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Originally posted by [CT]Clone1
Couple of things...

Firstly, why do people feel the need to complain. In all honesty I can't see that the complaint is a TRULY genuine one by someone who has some deep grievance with Slobberdon MeLuvvaBitch. If names offend you that much or in any deep personal nature - use SHIFT-N - problem solved - no more names.


uhm... "no more names". what about the little box with your hp, exp, pwr and end, the names actually show up there.
 
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cougar-

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Originally posted by uncle_sal


But you knew you are gonna get smiley/retarted/single line answers? All posts do... i dont see the point...

look above, some ppl with age over 14 actualy did answers they realy thought about, schh away now and dont try to answer something you dont have a clue about.
 
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[CT]Clone1

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edit: me being daft and not reading b4 I post - never mind.

About the little window with names popping up and stuff - he'd only see that if he was selecting the player and he'd probably only be doing that if he was buffing / curious etc etc.

Once he saw the name though if he was unhappy, he need never click on that person again.

Don't argue for arguments sake - it's childish.
 
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old.DachraK

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The names which people complain about get changed simple as that. Nice list but hey if nobody is complaining.... So imo not a fair comparisment.

Same happened with Cancer. People complained about it cause they thought he meant te disease, which he didn't ofcourse. It was just the name of one of the starsigns. It sucks but i can understand it.
 
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Flimgoblin

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yay do shift-n that won't negatively impact your ability to play one bit...
 
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gunner440

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Originally posted by old.DachraK

Same happened with Cancer. People complained about it cause they thought he meant te disease, which he didn't ofcourse. It was just the name of one of the starsigns. It sucks but i can understand it.

what happened to him? what did they change his name to?
 
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Jiggs

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the game would be cooler if everyone had more in character names tbh

but like not everyone is into this kind of thing :D

the slobodan thing is a little harsh, but i guess for some people its upsetting...
 
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bob007

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omg 10 pages on pryd, 2 pages so far here. Ohh and the topic title is wrong. GoA can't violate something they don't agree to everytime they enter the game. On the other hand. You agree to it, So you and nobly bribe must abide by it.

Note. I had a good long post pointing out the pros and cons of this "violation" by a name. But cba posting it as no one will read it anyway. Lets ask a different question.

Why would "slobodan" be offended by changing his name. If he knew that someone in game felt offended by him useing it. What about the feeling of others around YOU before yourself.
 
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old.Niljindil

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Originally posted by old.DachraK
The names which people complain about get changed simple as that. Nice list but hey if nobody is complaining.... So imo not a fair comparisment.

Same happened with Cancer. People complained about it cause they thought he meant te disease, which he didn't ofcourse. It was just the name of one of the starsigns. It sucks but i can understand it.

Dach, it seems you are a bit uninformed, Cancer did have complaints yes, but he wasnt forced to change the name since it *is* a starsign(or whatever the word is in english), he asked GOA to change it himself, not the other way around.
 
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old.Niljindil

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Originally posted by gunZ-


what happened to him? what did they change his name to?

Nothing :p i just said that ;)

Oh and i dont know if he actually wants the public to know, so i wont reveal his new name unless he asks me to or says it himself.
 

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