Giving more classes spread heals, what would the impact be?

[-Freezingwiz-]

meh, prefer template with 52% power, 344 dex and play 1 button as for those who tell spread kicks in to late thats bullcrap

spread heal is with out a doubt a nice thing, but if it's only 1 guy takeing dmg the fast spec heal is muce better to keep him/her alive with

(and I wouldn't like haveing a low power pool template on a healer either)

 

[Docs]

Friar spells

the link above works well and tell u what u wanna know ;p

I dont get it, the friar gets NO spec group heals (except HOT for 67hp/94 pow)
And with a spec heal thats slower then the cleric spec heal and also much weaker
the friar really comes in as a wery poor backup healer.
Much like the shaman, but unlike the bard that of all classes can get a group heal.

With the bumpage of the baseline heals I imagine they are much better then
the spec heals since the spec heals are slower, or am I wrong?

 

[Yunio]

meh, prefer template with 52% power, 344 dex and play 1 button as for those who tell spread kicks in to late thats bullcrap

i rather cast 1 spread and use time to share, root, buff shared ppl then target every member to heal 200hp entire fight

Theres something like baseline group heal at 2 seconds at 25 pow cost
(which sufficiently heals every member for 180 or something) and theres a spec group heal at 2.2 seconds
(which, in my case heals every member for 300, am only 35 reju)

and ofcourse you have that biggy single spec heal. So why only use spreadheal if you can maximize the utility of all kind of different heal spells in relation to pow cost in relation to time to cast in relation to the situation a certain heal is needed?

 

[Devaster]

Theres something like baseline group heal at 2 seconds at 25 pow cost
(which sufficiently heals every member for 180 or something) and theres a spec group heal at 2.2 seconds
(which, in my case heals every member for 300, am only 35 reju)

and ofcourse you have that biggy single spec heal. So why only use spreadheal if you can maximize the utility of all kind of different heal spells in relation to pow cost in relation to time to cast in relation to the situation a certain heal is needed?

I always have enough power, it is much easyer the way i play, i have alot more to do then healing. You dont need to be some kind of "very good" healer to keep ppl alive, even a monkey can be teached to press some buttons. The way your doing other tasks is telling about how good are u realy. Share/buff/interupt/rez use arts etc etc takes alot of time so wasting it on targeting ppl in grp and using sigle heals its a bad use of the time imo. Of couse if ppl cba getting decent powerpool bonus they gotta use power more rationaly...
And its not about the power realy, its a about the time. Battles atm dont last alot, so that small amount of time given should be used very smart even at cost of power. It is much better to win a battle and get OOM then die with half power u see.

 

[Vodkafairy]

actually theres quite a few long fights and having power or not would make the difference there, thats the reason i got sash on my eld now and that all druids should use the most mana efficient way of healing

 

[Z^^]

friars have a self end buff
and no they shouldnt, it would make paladins obselete

fixed grps should always have 1 smite 1 enh cleric, 1 perfector 1 warlord tbh
but this is where you go omg that would be gimped without thinking
Albs from what i seen have a stigma about change, as a result lose so much in terms of abilities and utility

what are you talking about ever played cleric or just spamming out shit?

if it havn't changed sence i've played, smite line got like pbae mezz and the only thing useful with warlord is the give grp heal/mana/end shout

 

[Puppet]

Givf Jiggs, imho!

Jiggs is back ingame; he plays Hib/Pryd in my guild.

 

[Devaster]

what are you talking about ever played cleric or just spamming out shit?

if it havn't changed sence i've played, smite line got like pbae mezz and the only thing useful with warlord is the give grp heal/mana/end shout

Not sure what spec laaken had, but he got first lvl ae smite. If i had a cleric i would definetly spec for that.

 

[cem8en]

Seing as we have a few semi popular secondary healer classes in albion that
could use some grp love.

This is a wild idea, but what if you give the friar, and heretic a
spread heal in their rejuv line so we could have a chance of getting some
more healing classes.

It might just be me, but the biggest issue with getting a grp going today is
getting the two clerics needed.

Besides, the heretic and friar could need something to make em more popular in groups.
Maybe restrict the spread heal to a lvl 30 one or something to balance things
out and still ensure the cleric is the no1 healer.

Just an idea, but it would make a few unpopular classes more popular.

Im not all to sure about the other realms, please enlighten me there, we
might have other secondary healers in need of some love in the other realms
as well.

/discuss

Oh, and by the way, this is just a thought I played with, so dont turn this into
a flamethread please. It might be overpowered, if so say so. But this
is meant as a serius discussion where we play with the thought and discuss the
possible impact on RvR and the secondary healer classes in all realms.

Are you trying to destroy the game even more? :'(

 

[Napshot]

meh, prefer template with 52% power, 344 dex and play 1 button as for those who tell spread kicks in to late thats bullcrap

i rather cast 1 spread and use time to share, root, buff shared ppl then target every member to heal 200hp entire fight

Got template with 56 power, 343 dex, but speced 41/34 reju/smite, so stun/interup/mezz... but still dont like spreads

 

[Andrilyn]

meh, prefer template with 52% power, 344 dex and play 1 button as for those who tell spread kicks in to late thats bullcrap

i rather cast 1 spread and use time to share, root, buff shared ppl then target every member to heal 200hp entire fight

388 dex, aug dex5 and no problem keeping people alive with normal heals, can easily spam single target heals and shear and stun at the same time so no idea what your talking about and my biggest heal is 900+ hp without any extra power relic with a 2.1 sec cast time unlike the 3.5 sec cast time of spread.
But keep on spreading and lose to every decent group you encounter.

 

[Docs]

Are you trying to destroy the game even more? :'(

If you think it destroys the game, fine. But a one liner isnt contributing much
to the discussion, elaborate please.

 

[Eregion]

388 dex, aug dex5 and no problem keeping people alive with normal heals, can easily spam single target heals and shear and stun at the same time so no idea what your talking about and my biggest heal is 900+ hp without any extra power relic with a 2.1 sec cast time unlike the 3.5 sec cast time of spread.
But keep on spreading and lose to every decent group you encounter.

interesting, wanna share how you reach 388 dex as cleric? i'm also interested in your 900+ heals

 

[Raven]

78 dex base + 101 SC + 155ish buffs (base+spec) + 48 aug dex 5 = 382 dex, cant get 388

 

[Devaster]

388 dex, aug dex5 and no problem keeping people alive with normal heals, can easily spam single target heals and shear and stun at the same time so no idea what your talking about and my biggest heal is 900+ hp without any extra power relic with a 2.1 sec cast time unlike the 3.5 sec cast time of spread.
But keep on spreading and lose to every decent group you encounter.

ok mistar avalonian cleric with dex5 moh5 and no active ras :worthy:

 

[Eregion]

ok mistar avalonian cleric with dex5 moh5 and no active ras :worthy:

still not possible to reach

 

[Lisaliten]

give friars/wardens/shamans the lvl1 spread heal on 40spec in mend/rej/reg