give sorcs second aoe timer tnx gg bb cu

[Carlos Bananos]

Originally posted by peder
PROBLEM is with the hibbs stun and nuke. i know this from 3 kills.

oh so many

 

[athenea]

36 mind 40 body u got 2 aoe CC too,both 1 min long.also got a debuff if u group with casters ( i know actually not the best group).

if u got mind spec u get aoe root lvl 30,and lvl 44 aoe mezz
if u got body spec u get aoe mezz lvl 34 and 40 root,if u target quick and well think its enought to keep mezzed long time non pure tank target with lvl 34 mezz unless they purged or demezzed and also have a higher aoe root to keep doing CC in deter tanks when mezz gone and they are inmune to mezz that can define the battle.

that my point of view,wanna read the point of view if those that prefer mind spec.

ps. Im enjoying a lot 36 mind 40 body spec atm,and think not do it very bad as a sorc.

My RAs atm are purge moc mcl 1 aug acuity 3 tougness 1 and a few free RAs that will use in motart i think and aug dex.

 

[kin]

Sorcs need help, since its much worse than bards or healers.

Bolt range = nice in zerks, but believe it or not most albs like
fg rvr.
qc < insta mezz, insta amnesia(interupt even at final state of qc), insta stun.
Root migt be nice but often ur dead before any chance to dual cc.
Cloth << studded or chain.
CC specced sorc nukes for so little its = 0 offensive capability.
Pet = nice in 1/100 fights.

Sorcs = only cc'er with no insta cc or insta interupts, weakest hp,
weakest armor and only cc with no xtra utility.

 

[old.Nol]

Originally posted by kin
Sorcs need help, since its much worse than bards or healers.

Bolt range = nice in zerks, but believe it or not most albs like
fg rvr.
qc < insta mezz, insta amnesia(interupt even at final state of qc), insta stun.
Root migt be nice but often ur dead before any chance to dual cc.
Cloth << studded or chain.
CC specced sorc nukes for so little its = 0 offensive capability.
Pet = nice in 1/100 fights.

Sorcs = only cc'er with no insta cc or insta interupts, weakest hp,
weakest armor and only cc with no xtra utility.

/yawn

 

[acei]

Originally posted by old.anubis
cuz mid also lacks something?

Pac healer = heals, buffs (none spec-ones), insta stun/AE-stun/mezz, root, mezz, AE-stun, AE-mezz, power regen.

Sorc = confuse, amnesia, AE-Mezz with 1875 range, 3debuffs, 1DD (weak), AE-root, power regen, caster speed


I know which one sounds best at CC to me....

 

[old.anubis]

Originally posted by acei
Pac healer = heals, buffs (none spec-ones), insta stun/AE-stun/mezz, root, mezz, AE-stun, AE-mezz, power regen.

Sorc = confuse, amnesia, AE-Mezz with 1875 range, 3debuffs, 1DD (weak), AE-root, power regen, caster speed


I know which one sounds best at CC to me....

did i say something about mezz classes?
did i compare healer with sorc/bard?

i said we (as a realm) have ae stun, but midgard (as a realm) lacks some alb/hib spells/abilities

midgard has ae stun, insta pbae disease, celerity, free 2h weapon, pr, ichor, savages, <insert other shit here>

albion has plate, mezz reduction chant, sos, ablative chant, bof, avoid pain on primary healer, insta stun on 20 sec timer, soldiers barricade, mezz reduction buff on primary mezzer, 1850 range 400 area longest mezz in the game, 9 seconds stun off evade, end regen on best defensive char in the game, infiltrators, <insert other countless shit>

shall we further compare?

i'm gladly switch ae stun for plate, for example
you will switch plate for ae stun for sure
lets write collective letter to mythic
maybe they will listen to us
i'm ready to sign such a letter, write it

 

[- Fedaykin -]

Originally posted by old.anubis
did i say something about mezz classes?
did i compare healer with sorc/bard?

i said we (as a realm) have ae stun, but midgard (as a realm) lacks some alb/hib spells/abilities

midgard has ae stun, insta pbae disease, celerity, free 2h weapon, pr, ichor, savages, <insert other shit here>

albion has plate, mezz reduction chant, sos, ablative chant, bof, avoid pain on primary healer, insta stun on 20 sec timer, soldiers barricade, mezz reduction buff on primary mezzer, 1850 range 400 area longest mezz in the game, 9 seconds stun off evade, end regen on best defensive char in the game, infiltrators, <insert other countless shit>

shall we further compare?

i'm gladly switch ae stun for plate, for example
you will switch plate for ae stun for sure
lets write collective letter to mythic
maybe they will listen to us
i'm ready to sign such a letter, write it

i'd swap sorcs for healers any day of the week!

 

[hotrat]

Seeing as Xeanor hasn't told yet I know that he has 1.38 cast speed on his mezz btw pretty nice.

Seige Bolt (talking of Group RAs lol) or Concentration.

Concentration is a very nice RA for sorc fyi, heck its even my avatar now

albion has plate, mezz reduction chant, sos, ablative chant, bof, avoid pain on primary healer, insta stun on 20 sec timer, soldiers barricade, mezz reduction buff on primary mezzer, 1850 range 400 area longest mezz in the game, 9 seconds stun off evade, end regen on best defensive char in the game, infiltrators

plate aint that nice, nobody seems to be moaning about savage only wearing studded.
Mezz reduction chant I dont actually use anymore, speed is far more useful for me and my group.
Insta stun is 10 sec, but skald insta snare and mezz are just as useful, if not more useful with respect to chasing support that is running away.
9 times out of 10 I get mezz broken before it wears out so reduction buff aint that good
Single insta CC is > bolt range mezz. Land a nice single stun or mezz on sorc and they are in big problems.
I would argue that a shaman has more surviveability than a paladin, i would certainly prefer a shaman than a paladin in my group.

 

[Gahldir]

Re: Re: give sorcs second aoe timer tnx gg bb cu

Originally posted by Pin
Pac Healers have 2.

And if you only have 1, you clearly fucked up when speccing.

 

[kin]

Nol your a noob, everyone knows how powerful amnesia is.
That backed up with insta mezz, mezz, speed 5, dd shouts, healing, rezz, armor, end chant makes a barde much superior to
a sorc.

Bards need to have amnesia and insta mezz removed and you will still have a good cc class.

Healers, well they need a lot removed. They are a bit like smite
clerics in old days, caster abilities in chain with insta heals.

Maybe bards have a hard time in rvr, but dont come /yarn at sorcs, since its a much worse class.

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i'm gladly switch ae stun for plate, for example
you will switch plate for ae stun for sure
lets write collective letter to mythic
maybe they will listen to us
i'm ready to sign such a letter, write it
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Noob ?

Plate on non evade tanks < chain or studded on evade tanks. You see dex buffs + dodger wont make ur plate more evasive.

Btw everyone knows that 2 healers, 1 shammy, 1 skald + 4 savages wins all fg vs fg encounters. Its a fact which is seen in emain every day, that mids need a very hard nerf or albion need a lot of xtra love. It also a fact most albs prefer fg rvr, but when a random mid savage group wipes 2-3 fg albs there is no choice but to zerk.

An ams with 2 handed crush, which is albs main tank, hits me for around 400 with his best side positional style.
A skald easy do 500+ with 2 handed hammer.
There is no balance at all.

 

[dawn-]

albion's cc sucks:

versus hibs they just grp purge
versus mids the deter4 savages just yell mezz me i give no shit
5 more secs and im on you = you r dead

sorc's are just a joke.. and everyone who has one knows that

 

[old.anubis]

Originally posted by dawn-
albion's cc sucks:

versus hibs they just grp purge
versus mids the deter4 savages just yell mezz me i give no shit
5 more secs and im on you = you r dead

sorc's are just a joke.. and everyone who has one knows that

like determination is only mid ability, rofl

 

[old.anubis]

Originally posted by kin
Healers, well they need a lot removed. They are a bit like smite
clerics in old days, caster abilities in chain with insta heals.

yea, sure
that 209 dmg 2.8 sec cast dd on healers is nice to have
i heard that healers can even debuff it
nerf nerf nerf

 

[ilienwyn]

Originally posted by old.anubis
like determination is only mid ability, rofl

no but killing in 5secs is a mid only ability it seems!

 

[old.anubis]

Originally posted by ilienwyn
no but killing in 5secs is a mid only ability it seems!

chanter can kill in 4.5 seconds

 

[ilienwyn]

Originally posted by old.anubis
chanter can kill in 4.5 seconds

Got you were i want it then. Any alb class qualifying for that?

 

[old.anubis]

Originally posted by ilienwyn
Got you were i want it then. Any alb class qualifying for that?

once my healer was dead from thrust infil before cd stun ended
purge was down, so i spammed instaheal during stun, it never happened
so it's like 5-5.5 seconds

if polearmsman is lucky he can 2 shot some shit like bard or something, that's also 5 seconds

 

[kin]

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yea, sure
that 209 dmg 2.8 sec cast dd on healers is nice to have
i heard that healers can even debuff it
nerf nerf nerf
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Noob. Its only in mid a guy like you could get more than rr3.

Sorcs only get that dd if body specced.

Body sorc = very little mezz
Body sorc = cant debuff own damage
Body sorc = a wizzy class not a CC.

Btw a body sorc doing around 300 max on a sc opponent need how many nukes on a healer with instas up to kill him ?

 

[old.anubis]

Originally posted by kin
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yea, sure
that 209 dmg 2.8 sec cast dd on healers is nice to have
i heard that healers can even debuff it
nerf nerf nerf
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Noob. Its only in mid a guy like you could get more than rr3.

Sorcs only get that dd if body specced.

Body sorc = very little mezz
Body sorc = cant debuff own damage
Body sorc = a wizzy class not a CC.

wtf does my statement have to do with sorc?
i was referring to healers
nerf nerf nerf

 

[kin]

You complain that healers have no offensive powers, but we all
know that the 3-4 savages he comes with has.

Healers is way overpowered in a group, best cc (some on insta), best armor, Insta heals....

 

[dawn-]

anubis: chanter has no determination though
ahahahah

 

[old.anubis]

Originally posted by kin
You complain that healers have no offensive powers, but we all
know that the 3-4 savages he comes with has.

so we come to yet another "nerf savages" thread or what?

Healers is way overpowered in a group, best cc (some on insta), best armor, Insta heals.... [/B]

have i ever said opposite?

 

[old.anubis]

Originally posted by dawn-
anubis: chanter has no determination though
ahahahah

he has baod == complete immunity to all cc

 

[Gewny]

yes ! Nerf healers that would accomplish something....







or not

 

[dawn-]

ok now you are comparing savages to chanters

 

[kin]

Everyone in this game knows healers need a nerf.

They dont need insta CC since they have chain + insta self heals.
Only insta CC they should have is pbaoe effect of some sort to
give a little protection from inc enemies.

Bards atm offers to much to a group compared to albion

1 Barde = sorc + minstrel + pala in one, every hib group can afford even 2.

Bards need insta CC and insta amnesia removed which is way owerpowered. They will still be loved in every hib group, since they bring much. Again only insta should be pbaoe effect to give
some protection.

Both classes should get access to free qc or moc ability on a decent timer, so that we dont revert to old days when sorcs
was the yber class because of qc.

Every healers and barde with just a little knowledge of the game knows how much better a cc'er their class is. The funny thing is
that so many think its fair that Albion has worst tanks, worst casters and worst cc because our infils have DF.

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yes ! Nerf healers that would accomplish something....







or not
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Might give albs a chance to fight, but maybe you are the kind who prefers to gank greys ?

 

[hellige]

hahahahaha

 

[kirennia]

put it this way.....

Would ANYONE in mid, honestly swap sorc AND cleric for a healer in their realm? So albs get all the healers of mid and mid get all the sorcs/clerics from alb.....

Would ANYONE in mid swap savages for armsmen or mercs or reavers? Would you even swap warriors for armsmen?

Would anyone swap friars for shamans?

Would anyone swap bonedancers for necromancers? (bear in mind if you get necros, all of your exp spots will b taken up by necros 90% of the time)


I rest my case.....