GG in DF

[Graknak]

Note1: This goes about DF and NOT about the frontier

Might i ask why it is all the ppl who support Grey Ganking are all lvl 45+?
Because YOU don't con grey anymore to anyone doesn't mean you shouldn't care about others who do!

There is a saying: Don't do something to anyone if you don't like it happening to yourself.

So think about this next time you see a grey con and think about how you would feel if the roles where switched. AND with this i mean EVERYONE including some of the albs we have here.

note2: Mythic should implement a no-rp's code for ganking greys, that would solve most of the problems. It's already done for xp with grey mobs so why not with ppl.

Greetings from an annoyed Cleric, Cuthbert MacGregor

[edit]: I know this discussion has been made a couple of times before but they where always about 1 realm being "lame" while this one is ment for everyone caus we all know each realm has them.

 

[old.Gombur Glodson]

Oh no! Not anymore whining about killing grey cons
look we were all grey cons ourself and yes we got ganked, but you know what? we kept our mouth shut, leveled and got even!
I suggest you do the same.

 

[ImLestat]

Agrees 100% with Gombur...

 

[kalgarn]

same,gotten killed ever since i started xp'ing with my zerker in yggdra bye purple cons.it's annoying but well if you don't want it,don't go there.and there are about 10000000 posts about ppl whining over greykilling.nice that you made a contribution but next time just post on one of those other treads instead of making a new one.it's pointless anyway

 

[Graknak]

You folks just don't see the point about the whole thing, but after the rather lame reply i got from you it's prob too hard for you to understand the words "fun" and "lame"

FFS i'm trying to enjoy a game not being ganked time after time by some lame-ass Mid (yes Mids caus Hibs are rare in Df) everywhere i go for those 2 rp's i give.

If only you knew the horror of n00bs in lvl eguivalent dungeons you know why we must go to Df.

 

[Ottar]

> Because YOU don't con grey anymore to anyone doesn't mean
> you shouldn't care about others who do!

Incorrect. Majority of lvl 45+ have more or less lowbie alts. Those get ganked alot too. Less now when DF is there but before that, Yggdra was THE greyganking area, as it was the only frontier zone where people actually exped alot. Me shammie got ganked alot there - well, builds character. Got ganked today too by rather purple pack of infiltrators camping MPK in Emain, while trying to rez my main. Got two kind words for you: No Mercy.

Btw, why is DF any different in that regard than yer normal frontier zone?

> There is a saying: Don't do something to anyone if you don't like
> it happening to yourself.

Well, I dont particularly like getting killed as a lvl 50 either. Hate mez, especially the on-contact guaranteed immobility of cleric pbaoe kind. Following yer sage advice, I should stop doing such horrible things as killing people and mezzing them? Become a vegetarian too perhaps?

Ottar

 

[Graknak]

ARRGGGHHHH am i completely surrounded by n00bs here then?
Or Spanish and Americans for that matter?

And Ottar those 45+ ppl can always go back to their main and gank the shit outta the one who killed their lowbie alt. Thats not possible if you don't have lvl 45+ chars.

 

[kalgarn]

want a carrot ottar?

 

[1234Taz]

Its quite simple don't go in a "RvR" zone and think your safe...... Even worse is moaning about been killed in a RvR zone. See this is good thing about DAoC when you want to PvP you goto RvR zones and if you dont you stay away. I've been killed many times at low lvl in Yggra and Uppland but I never maoned because its part of the game. You seem to be calling everyone a noob yet your the one moaning . Why is it lame? because you say so?, well everyone else pays the game monthly fee as you and have their own opinion.

 

[old.Gombur Glodson]

well done

Originally posted by Graknak
ARRGGGHHHH am i completely surrounded by n00bs here then?
Or Spanish and Americans for that matter?

And Ottar those 45+ ppl can always go back to their main and gank the shit outta the one who killed their lowbie alt. Thats not possible if you don't have lvl 45+ chars.

I just think you killed the chance of any people taking your post serious, well done.

Oh and let me just add that those people getting ganked could go away from the frontiers, lvl to 45+ and then get revenge.
People could do this before DF came and Im sure they still can.

 

[Ottar]

> You folks just don't see the point about the whole thing

Of course. No doubt you are the single person here who’s point of view is entirely valid, while ”us folks” are either misguided or just naturally dumb.

Still, consider yourself to be a lvl 50. What you do is occasionally kill epic mobs, take keeps, mostly RvR. Higher than greycon targets are nice - better RP, more excitement. If there isn’t any, greys will do. Greys don’t like it? Oh, what a pity.

Consider also, that there is a list of things annoying one’s fellow players, specifically stated as being against CoC. Killing greycons is not on that list. Otherwise, just about everything you do against yer adversary in RvR, if successful, is annoying to them and spoils their fun.

You may think that CoC is imperfect as it allows behaviour you as a person find unacceptable. In such a case, what you can do is develop a personal superset of rules around the official CoC. However, you have no right to demand of others to follow your personal kind of ethics.

> And Ottar those 45+ ppl can always go back to their main and gank
> the shit outta the one who killed their lowbie alt. Thats not possible
> if you don't have lvl 45+ chars.

So, killing a grey who also has a 45+ char as a main is ok? Hmm.. gets kinda complicated. Explain more please. Being a noob I have yet not reached enlightenment.

> want a carrot ottar?

Nah, gimme raw meat!

Ottar

 

[Roalith]

Ottar wants teh pie

 

[old.Iunliten]

Originally posted by Graknak

FFS i'm trying to enjoy a game not being ganked time after time by some lame-ass Mid

You don't know how many times your life has been spared.

 

[ImLestat]

Originally posted by Graknak
You folks just don't see the point about the whole thing, but after the rather lame reply i got from you it's prob too hard for you to understand the words "fun" and "lame"

FFS i'm trying to enjoy a game not being ganked time after time by some lame-ass Mid (yes Mids caus Hibs are rare in Df) everywhere i go for those 2 rp's i give.

If only you knew the horror of n00bs in lvl eguivalent dungeons you know why we must go to Df.

What you don't seem to understand is that this online game is divided into two parts by Mythic. The first part is a PK free environment, where you can level peacefully without ever dying by another players hand. The other isn't as many thinks the opposite, where you only kill other players. The other part is that you can level (and kill players) in other, more dangerous areas. These other areas are more dangerous just because you can get killed there by other players. Mythic has done this because there are some people who doesn't want to be killed by other players, so they wanted to give them this opportunity. As soon as you step into any area where players from other realms are able to be you forfeit the safety you once enjoyed in your own realms areas. Whether this is in the frontiers or in Darkness Falls makes no difference at all.

I will now quote Goa's official RvR rules, which is the ultimate, and unquestionable answer to your post:
"There is only one rule in RvR, and this rule is applicable for everything in the game : you must respect the code of conduct you agreed on when you created your account. Everything else is perfectly acceptable."

The above quote is from here:
http://faq.camelot-europe.com/cgi-bin/rightnow_en.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_sid=Hhk11Zmg&p_lva=&p_faqid=266&p_created=1013596784&p_sp=cF9ncmlkc29ydD0mcF9yb3dfY250PTEwNyZwX3BhZ2U9Mw**&p_li=

Now please, stop whining and return to the game.

 

[kr0n]

I ganked greys in yggdra when they conned mostly yellow.

 

[Graknak]

Btw it's still funny that you all think that this post is useless while you still take the effort to actually make a post. If you don't agree then leave the post, don't say it's useless and still post caus yer keeping this post pretty usefull then.

and another thing, can you tell me why Df has mobs from lvl 15+ while we can't go there because we get ganked?

 

[Spamb0t]

Originally posted by Graknak
FFS i'm trying to enjoy a game not being ganked time after time by some lame-ass Mid (yes Mids caus Hibs are rare in Df) everywhere i go for those 2 rp's i give.

maybe some isnt there for RPs .... DOH
maybe some enjoys killing everything in their way .... DOH

i know i do.. so what if u give 2 RPs? who cares.. i sure as hell dont

and btw.. *WHINE* *WHINE* *WHINE* *WHINE* *WHINE*

 

[Azal]

IF you don't want to get killed in an rvr zone then maybe just DON'T go there, and if your gonna continue to go there stop complaining if you die.

 

[Ottar]

> Btw it's still funny that you all think that this post is
> useless while you still take the effort

Effort? Nah, its for amusement. Would be silly to seriously expect you to change yer mind, wouldn't it? Typically, people's minds change with time..

> If you don't agree then leave the post, don't say it's
> useless and still post caus yer keeping this post
> pretty usefull then.

Beats me what use you getting out of it. Suggesting only people who happen to agree with you should reply in a discussion forum is a little gem worth enough to keep poking ya

> and another thing, can you tell me why Df has mobs from
> lvl 15+ while we can't go there because we get ganked?

Good question. Now, your statement about not being able to go there is obviously invalid as you have admitted you were killed there - so ya had to be there in the first place. Why they were placed there by Mythic? Well, if you insist on them having some kind of master plan working there then the first thing that comes to my mind is they put them mobs there to lure greycons into areas they can be killed by big folks.

Not a bad theory, come to think of it. The combat system sure as hell is as level biased as to suggest that one of the design goals was providing highlevel people easy targets for more fun on other hand and lowlevels a strong incentive to level more to get back..

So, Im afraid ya don't have much of a case here. Your'e not paranoid, everybody really ARE out to get ya

And don't be such a crybaby, after all you do play one of the strongest RvR classes in the game. As an (certifiably uber) skald I have now, after more than half a year of playing and 320k of rp's, TWO solo kills against a yellow con clerics. One time I was incredibly lucky, 2nd time the cleric was either drunk or very tired. No wonder people gank you bastards while you con low to them.

Ottar

 

[old.Sko]

Originally posted by Ottar
> Because YOU don't con grey anymore to anyone doesn't mean
> you shouldn't care about others who do!

alot there - well, builds character. Got ganked today too by rather purple pack of infiltrators camping MPK in Emain, while trying to rez my main. Got two kind words for you: No Mercy.
Ottar

Lol, buffbotter ;P
Kind of cheating you know ?

 

[old.neenee]

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[Makwaerk]

PPl dont xp in a rvr zone ...... noticed what I called it ... a RVR zone! .. it is there so ppl from different realms can kill each other.

 

[kalgarn]

Originally posted by Graknak
Btw it's still funny that you all think that this post is useless while you still take the effort to actually make a post. If you don't agree then leave the post, don't say it's useless and still post caus yer keeping this post pretty usefull then.

yes,this post is very usefull.everytime i watch it it becomes funnier and funnier

 

[old.Doringard]

Not long ago Sinister ganked my hero alt in DF, i have logged on with my main and somehow managed to kill him. You cant imagen the feeling : ). So i was happy about that my alt got ganked , revenge was tasty )

Want to live? Dont go to the next places: Emain, Gorge, Collory, Odins, Uppland, Yggdra, Hadrians, Pennine, Forest Sauv and Darkness Falls. It is easy isnt it ? : )

Doringard lvl 48 lurikeen Ranger
Doimard lvl 24 celt hybrid Hero

 

[Ensceptifica]

Originally posted by Graknak
There is a saying: Don't do something to anyone if you don't like it happening to yourself.

I don't mind it happening to myself. DF = RvR, and that's supposed to be dangerous. Personally I don't kill anyone for the rps, but for fun. Grays, greens, reds; I make no distinction. Sometimes I'll be in a merciful mood and spare a weak opponent. That's sportive. It's not immoral to not spare him. And the moment people stop thinking about this game as something you can WIN (you all end up on lvl 50, RR5 in the end) is the moment people will stop accusing eachother of having an immoral playing style.

 

[old.tuppe]

all was blaming middies when they made post like this, so they died quite fast.
like copple allready sayed here, yggdra was only place where was those greys, so hibs/albs was "practising" rvr a lott there.

DF come, and suddenly albs/hibs so called grey are under same pressure, dont come whine here! we middies wasnt allowed do that, allways same answer, its frontier! all goes!
albs do that in DF! mids do that! hibs not sure? not see many of them in DF.
lately hibbies activity has raise little in mids frontier what is great!

 

[Coren]

Originally posted by Ottar

Incorrect. Majority of lvl 45+ have more or less lowbie alts. Those get ganked alot too. Less now when DF is there but before that, Yggdra was THE greyganking area, as it was the only frontier zone where people actually exped alot. Me shammie got ganked alot there - well, builds character. Got ganked today too by rather purple pack of infiltrators camping MPK in Emain, while trying to rez my main. Got two kind words for you: No Mercy.

Ah, I remember. We usually let single grey/greens pass, but this time we killed you, and suddenly a single greencon troll shaman came from the pk and tried to rez. Since this looked like someone switched to his buffbot just to rez, we kindly killed it aswell, being the buffbot-haters we are. If it wasn't just a rez-/buffbot, and you honestly tried to RvR with it, then we're sorry for ganking you. Otherwise: Death to buffbots!

After that, a greycon shammie called Support (obvious, anyone?) did the same. Seems like an army of buffbots hiding in mpk.

 

[shu_ayala]

Ah, I remember. We usually let single grey/greens pass, but this time we killed you

Hahahaha Coren of course you do - except when it suits you and you feel like ganking everything!

I think the biggest problem with the grey ganking that goes on is the fact that many of us are only just starting to play the game - and so only have one main character and have never seen the other side of the argument.

Try and remember that lowbies (like me ) with no experience of high lvl playing cant understand the reasoning for you ganking us. We just see it as - 'your high level... stop being nasty to us lowbies'.

It also doesnt help that when we post on these forums about what we assume is a problem that all we get is lots of 733t posts from you uber lot about how its an RvR zone blah blah.....

Have any of you actually thought of posting some information that my actually educate us lowbies about what reasons you do have for ganking us?

Such as was posted in the PvP thread I started.....

1. Many poeple dont know they are worth RP's... is there a listing of what RP's poeple are worth and at which Lvl's?

2. Is lowbie ganking just to make sure that lowbies are out of the way for when a major RvR attack occurs - in other words to stop other realms using greys as a smoke screen for the real RvR players?

3. Are lowbies ganked to 'russle up' some hatred so that once they are higher lvl they will bring more interesting RvR?

Please all you gankers!! Lets have some reasons.... some real ones!!!

 

[trigali]

Karlgarn you posted

There is a saying: Don't do something to anyone if you don't like it happening to yourself.

and

FFS i'm trying to enjoy a game not being ganked time after time by some lame-ass Mid (yes Mids caus Hibs are rare in Df) everywhere i go for those 2 rp's i give.

(I did not read any further, it's a useless whine anyway). But I'm trying to find out if you intend to play that game ONLY in PVE ?

I mean I don't like getting killed but it sure as hell is not going to prevent me from going RvR to either bite the dust (most likely) or get someone else to bite it !

It's the bloody POINT OF THE GAME. Go back to Alb land and leave DF to the big boys.

 

[old.Sko]

lol, this game all about ganking. zerg of albs steamrolling mids, zerg of mid steamrolling albs, zerg of hibs steamrolling what was left of previous two.
It doesn`t really matter whether you're level one or level 50 in such conditions (Erm, ofcause stealthier can hide and pick off from zerg's tail )
And remember - you can do much nastier things to them then they do to you - ask nearby pet/pbaoe caster to spam pet/pbaoe on their corpse any time they see it PBAOE is better since it affects everything they wear