According to El Reg they're looking to ship later this week. Will be interesting to see how they perform. I do remember a few issues with that GX2 board though, I can't see that working much better than the 7950 GX2.
well aye, budget and extreme versions first - both are where the large end of the markets lie.
8800GT will still beat a 9600 into submission, so good news for all us folks using those
Indeed looking forward to when the 9800's finally get released. I was tempted to buy a Powercolor 3870 dual gpu yesterday but I thought i'd wait to see how the 9800's perform when released. (most likely they'll piss all over the 3870)
It's a shame the 9-series isn't as spectacular as rumored, but the 9600 doesn't look bad given its price. The Firingsquad have a performance preview and it does quite well for a mainstream card. GeForce 8 users needn't worry about upgrading, but it's not a bad offering for those looking for performance without breaking the bank.
I may get a 8800GTX, it's about the only performance upgrade I can get at the moment. It's really getting silly that all the new nvidia cards are now limited by the 256-bit memory bus, and they aren't doing anything to fix it, despite some of their older cards having a 384-bit bus (8800 GTS640/GTX)!
I guess this is part of the problem with a lack of competition. nVidia don't need to really push the specifications of their products because the performance is usually quite sufficient. Instead, they can simplify things, keep costs down, and only upgrade when it's really necessary.
Some of ATI's cards have a 512-bit memory bus and their overall performance isn't stellar. Sometimes it's best to look at how everything marries together, rather than individual specifications in isolation.
Kind regards
Jonty
P.S. If you do upgrade, at least wait until the 9-series comes out. If the performance is great then you can spend more, but if not the 8-series equivalent will at least be cheaper.
P.P.S. I don't mean to disagree, I'm just playing devil's advocate from the business perspective. I'm with you that nVidia ought to keep innovating
Yeah, with the possible dissapointment that is the high end of the 9xxx series, I'm either considering either a 8800GTX or getting 2x 8800GT's and SLI'ing them. Each has +ve and -ve points when you are gaming at 1920x1200.
Either way I'll wait for the the 9800's to come out, I just wish there was a clear performance leader!
For those who have an 8800 gtx already, buying another one and running them in SLI would be the best choice i think. Doubt the 9800 gtx will surpass that. Tho i don´t know what new tech the 9800 brings that will be used in upcoming games.
The 8800 series has been around some time now for a graphics card, I'm fairly sure up to it a new graphics card range got released on paper every 6 months and an actual product release reached about 8 months. As for it's performance I get the feeling its not going to be the leap that 8800 series has provided and it looms in the shadows like the recent AMD processors have where they seem to take forever to appear only to be rather dissapointing in the performance area.
As for SLI it's safe to say you might be very annoyed/dissapointed with it in a rather short time, to me it seems very temperamental and this appears to be even worse with Vista.
And that isn't just limited to SLI. Crossfire is rarely any better. Performance wise it is, but Crossfire out of the box has just the amount of bugs and software issues that we unfortunately come to expect from ATI/AMD's code monkies.
I don't think SLI has had the impact it should do, at least not since it's "original" incarnation with twin Voodoo 2's - a decent single card in the first place should be more than enough to run the most modern and demanding of games, and it only looks like a must when you start using it with twin 24" screens and all the effects (normally unnecessarily) turned up. But then, if you've got twin 24"s, you can afford it
It still suprises me how many people, on resolutions like 1920x1200 and up still insist on using silly amounts of anti-aliasing - the only reason for that being "because they can". Cutting off nose, spiting face.
Not everyone is rich, and budgeting to a decent system with little money is no small feat but can be done with the right help and resources. That says a lot for the 9600GT too - it might only be a midrange card, and it's very early days for the 9xxx series, but it's still a good buy for good money. There's not a lot of point looking to the past, as past hardware won't run the games - and not much point looking to the future - as you're always be looking and never buying.
Meh I tend to keep the same graphic card for a good two to three years, I have a 1950XTX and do not see the need to upgrade as nothing I play has stressed it yet.
That looks like a very tempting price, even though it's a generic card. The Tech Report has an interesting review where it comparses 256MB, 512MB, and 1024MB 8800 GTs, as well as touching on SLI performance.
Aye, it's shocking how useless the 1gb kit is. Just goes to show the power of marketing - so other than "I've got a bigger e-peen than you", the extra ram is utterly useless
Very good price though, (steals for deals of the week thread!) and even in their bare minimum, generic branded state, they're cracking performers.
Had a Dell one given to me the other night (again a straight nVidia reference card) and tested it with the idea of replacing my current Inno3D one as the cooler is single slot - my card has a fancy Zalman Flower style cooler on it which is rather large - but the single slot one sat at about 10 degrees warmer :/
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