Funny thing is

[]AC[dRuM]

..ok I accept that my post isn't your run of the mill type of post, but I think it has content that has for the greater part been avoided or (as is the case here) been stamped on simply because people refuse to accept that there is a small minority of childish idiots who for years have carried on in an unprofessional manor and have spoil it for everyone. My opinions will not change and I feel those that are in the know 'really know' what I am getting at.

End of the day it wasn't aimed at any one individual but it does tell the side of the UK online gaming scene that noone really wants to talk about..


Subject for debate today :

there is a small minority of childish idiots who for years have carried on in an unprofessional manor and have spoil it for everyone

 

[Cthulhu]

[QUOTE=']AC[dRuM'
Subject for debate today :

there is a small minority of childish idiots who for years have carried on in an unprofessional manor and have spoil it for everyone[/QUOTE]


To The Manor Born!

 

[Tom]

I missed this thread, I've just read through it, and I think I still missed it.

 

[TdC]

don't worry about it Tom. I understood it fully, but then my brain is being beaten by massively buffed bacteria yielding large clubs.

 

[dysfunction]

don't worry about it Tom. I understood it fully, but then my brain is being beaten by massively buffed bacteria yielding large clubs.

Ya aint gonna get nah sympafy ere mate!

 

[TdC]

that's what the bacteria say too

 

[Deadmanwalking]

So noone gave a flying fuck about what you had to say, so you just posted it all here for us to "think" about.

Thanks mate! That will be 150 quid please.
That is the fee of a councellor no?

 

[ECA]

anyone got any good penguin based flash games?

 

[Ch3tan]

I'd post the link to one, but I dont want to whine about my failed love life.

 

[]AC[dRuM]

I'd post the link to one, but I dont want to whine about my failed love life.

..lol I haven't looked up your age Ch3f, if you were 14 I could understand a comment like that, suffice to say you and your kind will remain the epitome of everything extremely sad about online gaming, but you keep the l33tness up, it suits you.

Seeing as noone has anything really relevant to say about the subject, I will close on a comment made by darius (XE) to Bigfoot some time ago, I think it pretty much sums up how I and many others feel.

does l33tness remove simple manners?

 

[MYstIC G]

Could everyone in this thread please leave? Please?

 

[dysfunction]

Could everyone in this thread please leave? Please?

Ive got nowhere to go though!

 

[Munkey]

Come to my basement, said the spider to the fly

 

[SilverHood]

This thr34d is 0nly just g377ing good

xD

 

[~Yuckfou~]

anyone got any good penguin based flash games?

Probably a Glen

 

[Ch3tan]

I've strived for so many years to be considered l33t. Finally that 3 in my name has paid off.

 

[]AC[dRuM]

I've strived for so many years to be considered l33t

Thats cool I haven't got a problem with that tbh, not that you would be that bothered if I had anyway eh! (keeping it real ) I just think that those with an interest in the future of online gaming here in the UK should be doing more to promote a better environment for players, rather than a cut throat world of loosers and g33ks with tude.

If the online gaming world is a mirror of the playground, then it must have its supervisors, if these supervisors are not (or as the case may be) refuse to accept that we need good promotion with good solid friendly communities then all you will ever have is the bullies doing what they like. The irony is most if not all of these g33ks online that insist on promoting a cutthroat world were in fact bullied themselves (just look at the photos of some of them and tell me otherwise ..lol ) It kind of makes you wonder if they do it for a reason..? Maybe they get a lot out of making young people squirm, as the bullies did to them at school..?

Funnily enough I never was......

/me goes to find a g33k and steal his dinner money

 

[MYstIC G]

I'd prefer a good quality thread once in a while instead of a continuing tyrade of bullshit as priority number one to be honest.

 

[]AC[dRuM]

I'd prefer a good quality thread once in a while instead of a continuing tyrade of bullshit as priority number one to be honest.

Agree but carrying on like a spoilt child that everyone has to agree with isn't fair play either. IMO. Theres no tirade here, this is one post that as hit a nerve with you and you fail to address the issues every time, choosing to just write it off as bullsh*t, thing is I won't accept that and why should I just because you don't like it.

I have made valid comments to which noone including yourself has given any credible feedback other than the fact you think it is bullsh*t. Just because you don't agree with what I say doesn't make it bullsh*t, this is the point... read my signature. If you disagree, with what I say by all means say so, but don't just say its shite, of course you have that right, but to challenge what I said with a credible well thought out reply would at least make me think you are capable of acting like an adult and I would take you and your opinions more seriously.

As I said not one issue has been addressed at all.. you trawl the net and try to find comments like mine about the UK online industry and they are hard to find, simply because people do not want to know, this is credible debate, this offers serious issues backed with the relevant information and deserves to be treated as such.

You talk about bullsh*t, bullsh*t is not addressing the issues, burying your head in the sand is bullsh*t, turning your back on something because you don't like it is bullsh*t. Have the savy to either address what I have said with equally as credible arguments, or don't bother at all tbh.

Again this is the issue for debate :

there is a small minority of childish idiots who for years have carried on in an unprofessional manor and have spoil it for everyone

 

[tris-]

drum dont waste your time mate, i tryed to say this 2 yrs ago and had nothing but flames ever since

 

[MYstIC G]

Agree but carrying on like a spoilt child that everyone has to agree with isn't fair play either. IMO. Theres no tirade here, this is one post that as hit a nerve with you and you fail to address the issues every time, choosing to just write it off as bullsh*t, thing is I won't accept that and why should I just because you don't like it.

I have made valid comments to which noone including yourself has given any credible feedback other than the fact you think it is bullsh*t. Just because you don't agree with what I say doesn't make it bullsh*t, this is the point... read my signature. If you disagree, with what I say by all means say so, but don't just say its shite, of course you have that right, but to challenge what I said with a credible well thought out reply would at least make me think you are capable of acting like an adult and I would take you and your opinions more seriously.

As I said not one issue has been addressed at all.. you trawl the net and try to find comments like mine about the UK online industry and they are hard to find, simply because people do not want to know, this is credible debate, this offers serious issues backed with the relevant information and deserves to be treated as such.

You talk about bullsh*t, bullsh*t is not addressing the issues, burying your head in the sand is bullsh*t, turning your back on something because you don't like it is bullsh*t. Have the savy to either address what I have said with equally as credible arguments, or don't bother at all tbh.

Again this is the issue for debate :

Fine, it makes it bullshit in my opinion. Thinking that it is shite is a perfectly valid opinion and one I am entitled to hold. I have read this thread and my conclusion was the contents are bullshit, so therefore:

IN MY OPINION THIS IS BULLSHIT

Is that ok this time or did my freedom to post what I like (just as you freely do) disappear without me noticing?

Oh and just for your reference what "issues" are there to address? I generally avoid posting in most threads these days as I feel the theme carrys over the majority of the forums these days, so it's not like you're being singled out, just for the record.

 

[]AC[dRuM]

..of course as I said you have that right, theres no need to be so melodramatic about it. Thing is I am curious as to why you think it is bullsh*t, quite obviously you feel the UK's online companys and their various represenattives have been well served in the past. So please elaborate, of course you don't have too, but I would be interested to see working examples of a successfull model of an online company in a UK gaming capacity and what has made them successfull.

 

[MYstIC G]

I can't as my definition of successful is not likely to be identical to yours so I'll pass.

As for melodramatic, I'm not, you retort and I simply reassert my position in the style with which I always post. It has to be said that you're the one who tends to hilight single words in bold thus drawing attention to them, i.e. melodramatic sticks out over and above any actual content in your post as it's hilighted, and as such draws the eye.

 

[]AC[dRuM]

I can't as my definition of successful is not likely to be identical to yours so I'll pass.

As for melodramatic, I'm not, you retort and I simply reassert my position in the style with which I always post. It has to be said that you're the one who tends to hilight single words in bold thus drawing attention to them, i.e. melodramatic sticks out over and above any actual content in your post as it's hilighted, and as such draws the eye.

I highlight my words to put emphasis on things but I fail to see how this compares to your tirade OF BOLD CAPITAL LETTERS..lol but we will have to agree to disagree.

I can't as my definition of successful is not likely to be identical to yours so I'll pass.

Please, I would appreciate any input that could change my opinon that the UK's online gaming potential has been ruined by a combination of bad attitudes and mismanagement, reinforced by the very people running the show encouraging these attitudes.

 

[SilverHood]

Drum, I've read this thread 5 times now. I don't get it.
Consider me a thick 8 year old. Explain, using the appropiate (but simple) language, exactly what the issues you are trying to debate are. Bullet points preffered.

Then maybe we can debate,

 

[]AC[dRuM]

agree.. it has got somewhat fragmented.. my bad...

1) The UK's online gaming potential has been ruined by a combination of bad attitudes and mismanagement.

2) The people who represent these online companies support and actively encourage the l33t bad attitudes towards correct promotion and management that ultimately destroy an online company.

3) Not enough is done to root out childish idiots online.

4) Not enough is done to promote friendly environments for kids / young teens to play and chat.

*I must go to bed but thanks anyway some clear genuine feedback would be cool.

 

[SilverHood]

agree.. it has got somewhat fragmented.. my bad...

1) The UK's online gaming potential has been ruined by a combination of bad attitudes and mismanagement.

What types of attitdues and mismanagement? I see 4Kings doing quite well on the international scene, Team AMD Gamer are also doing incredibly well, and they're mostly from the UK. UK also did quite well in Halo, as far as I remember.

2) The people who represent these online companies support and actively encourage the l33t bad attitudes towards correct promotion and management that ultimately destroy an online company.

Need some names here - only ever played on 3 UK server types - Wireplay, Jolt and Game.Net (BarrysWorld)
I never had any problems with 133tness, though the WirePlay community, didn't seem to appreciate newcomers (much more than the old BW fourms when DAOC was just introduced).

3) Not enough is done to root out childish idiots online.
4) Not enough is done to promote friendly environments for kids / young teens to play and chat.

The idiots are mostly the young teens, who, because they aren't subject to whatever rules govern them in real life, think that they can be morons online. Well, they can, but most places I've been to ban them (PC Gamer Fourms, Tac-Ops forums, BW / FH , don't read Jolt anymore, so can't comment).

When you say kids, what do you mean by that? 10 year olds? My brother is 10. It takes him 30 seconds to type out a sentence when he plays online - which means he just plays, and doesn't type (he plays Call of Duty, in case anyone is wondering). Do kids really need an "environment"? environments, by their very nature, brings out the bad things in people. (see DAoC forums )
Imagine, a gaming site aimed at 10 year olds. Complete with forums. Can you imagine the amount of wierdo's, peado's, morons you're gonna get? It just isn't feasable. I think most young people on the net are happy with being either anonomys, or part of some form of relevant forum. (My brother would rather spend his limited time playing games than post on forums - his use of the internet is probably limited to Weebl's Stuff, CoD and various flash games.... I think most 10 year olds who use the internet have it similarly )

I can't believe I just wrote all that : Displacement activities are bad.....
*must revise*

 

[nath]

Freddyshouse isn't a company as far as I know, it's just a message forum. If you don't like the way you're treated here sod off?

Alternatively, by all means rant and rave about so called "l33t" people, but don't expect to be taken seriously when all this started because you couldn't take a joke - albeit at your expense. Given how mature and together you seem to be claiming to be, you should be able to handle that.

 

[Tom]

1) The UK's online gaming potential was ruined even before it began, because most average people recognise that sitting in a warehouse surrounded by hundreds of young-ish people (or more frighteningly, older people), all playing computer games while wearing headphones, is WEIRD.

2) The people who run the online gaming community sites are the same kind of people as above, therefore what do you expect.

2a) My cat is licking my neck

3) You can't eliminate childish idiots, most game players are children, children are childish, and mostly do idiotic things when 'playing'

3a) My cat is now clawing my shoulder and biting my chin

4) These friendly environments are usually called 'socialising' and 'kicking a football around the park'

 

[Ch3tan]

Drum stop talking things so literally and personally. Most people are here to have a laugh.

You have managed to misintepret everyones intentions since the first reply to this thread. Far from the people on this forum having elite attitudes and issues I think you are the one with the attitude.